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~}RoC{~ Immediate Reform

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steve41598 is not online. steve41598
Joined: 23 Oct 2010
Total Posts: 24
12 Oct 2012 11:12 PM
Devin is correct that all RoC HR's are all RI. But he appearantly doesn't see the shouts me and vir shout. We shout for both RoC and RI so devin I don't see how there are 100% un loyal HR's. Yes there are some but not all of us are. Also you are willing to demote every single last person that has earned and deserve their rank just to get rid of a system that has worked well with us in the past. You can't say the system doesn't work when you don't ask any HR's to help you or are even that active with RoC yourself. If you were actually active with RoC and hosted trainings that no one attended and said the system doesn't work I'd agree with you. But considering it has worked for us very well in the past I don't see why it won't work now. The only true problem right now is our activity. Don't blame the inactivity on the system.....
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nitroyoshi9 is not online. nitroyoshi9
Joined: 17 Jun 2011
Total Posts: 45664
12 Oct 2012 11:14 PM
roc vs ri
i want to see it

shake shake shake senora shake 11 times work work work senora back in 2 my right and bababa daa
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dention1 is not online. dention1
Joined: 23 Aug 2009
Total Posts: 2961
12 Oct 2012 11:15 PM
ri win
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Renz270 is not online. Renz270
Joined: 25 Aug 2009
Total Posts: 831
12 Oct 2012 11:19 PM
"I shouldn't have to tell anyone to be active
It should just be common sense"

looks like you gotta tell yourself, huh devin?
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McRing is not online. McRing
Joined: 15 Aug 2012
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12 Oct 2012 11:26 PM
WB was inactive lol renz

Finally RI Should have never merged they are dead now which is sad.

RoC should have been independent
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Renz270 is not online. Renz270
Joined: 25 Aug 2009
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12 Oct 2012 11:34 PM
Devin was inactive for a much longer span than WB
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McRing is not online. McRing
Joined: 15 Aug 2012
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12 Oct 2012 11:39 PM
I was most active c;
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Renz270 is not online. Renz270
Joined: 25 Aug 2009
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13 Oct 2012 12:00 AM
NO
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dans59 is not online. dans59
Joined: 15 Apr 2011
Total Posts: 8606
13 Oct 2012 12:05 AM
umm, OK. I'll go with the flow.
Hope it goes well.
@Renz: Hi.
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Steeler55 is not online. Steeler55
Joined: 06 Dec 2008
Total Posts: 4102
13 Oct 2012 12:08 AM
Big clans will be stupid clans.
Rich people will be stupid people.
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perry4231 is not online. perry4231
Joined: 19 Nov 2011
Total Posts: 87
13 Oct 2012 04:18 AM
Guys, I want the old RoC back. What would ever happen if Devin never left RoC? If the old HR's never left? Heh do what you want, I just want it back. This is the reason I quit RoC for a short time, CORRUPTNESS. I want a time machine :3
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blindbird17 is not online. blindbird17
Joined: 23 Jan 2012
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13 Oct 2012 06:09 AM
@perry ikr
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BigBob50 is not online. BigBob50
Joined: 08 Oct 2011
Total Posts: 238
13 Oct 2012 06:59 AM
All of the hrs were active with wb as a leader so get wb to tell to hrs to be loyel to you. And please change the promotion system it is all crazy and i never got my promotion. Last get rid of the new era and bring old RoC/RI back.
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LosDorito is not online. LosDorito
Joined: 23 May 2012
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13 Oct 2012 07:22 AM
@Renz270 please come back D:
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C0D3Y is not online. C0D3Y
Joined: 24 Jul 2010
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13 Oct 2012 07:29 AM
I find it incredibly amusing that you consider the HR's inactive, while I have seen you shout for 3 things during your entire reinstatement, 2 forums and 1 ally defense. There have been no trainings, meetings, or raids from you since RoC was yours again. But hey, I wouldn't mind going back to RI. No more having to teach people from the bare bottom up. I can see RI coming back to full strength by next summer. And after this thread blaming HRs for the fall of activity and taking no credit for yourself, I can't wait to leave RoC and go back to being RI only.
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Toosalty is not online. Toosalty
Joined: 17 Aug 2011
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13 Oct 2012 09:25 AM
You guys have to realize you can't get your past back. I've been wanting to do that for a long time, but it's impossible.
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medevex11 is not online. medevex11
Joined: 05 Jan 2012
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13 Oct 2012 10:00 AM
I Agree that promotion system made it that no one could become a hr even if they tried there hardest
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3lectrifi3d is not online. 3lectrifi3d
Joined: 24 Apr 2012
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13 Oct 2012 10:05 AM
i dont agree with this at all, this is the way we were all taught on promotions. WHy fix something when it isn't broken? the only thing broken around here is Devin's leadership. RoC isn't corrupt, we just have members that are loyal to other groups. merging RoC with Ri was an excellent idea. We had more man power, more to fight with. Now we're seperate and both groups seem to be failing. Devin, the problem isn't the promotion system, it isn't the "unloyal" high ranks. It's your leadership. When you first led RoC the ideas you want to implement now were great, but we have grown bigger, stronger. Now isn't the time to change everything about RoC.
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blindbird17 is not online. blindbird17
Joined: 23 Jan 2012
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13 Oct 2012 10:13 AM
@3lectrifi3d actually we have grown smaller about 2000 smaller.
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nitroyoshi9 is not online. nitroyoshi9
Joined: 17 Jun 2011
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13 Oct 2012 10:29 AM
shutdown ri

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WannaBet is not online. WannaBet
Joined: 01 Jan 2011
Total Posts: 23607
13 Oct 2012 10:52 AM
1. The current HR's in RoC are absolutely incorrupt, moreso than ANY other superpower clan on ROBLOX. That is a gurantee.

Not a single one of the current HR's had ever promoted even the most legitimate character without my direct approval.

Not a single HR has ever accepted bribes, advertised his group, or oppressed others to follow his cause or opinion without my direct approval.

2. Loyalty

The set of HR's I've collected during my leadership are inclined towards assisting and executing plans. They are not there to lead a clan while its leader is simply a symbolic figure, they are there to take percise orders by an authority and follow through with it without any failures.

Yes, it is true that there could have been a greater effort in trying to maintain RoC's activity levels, but without any major planning approved and guided through by the leader, you could not expect any of them to be able of maintaining and advancing RoC onto the next level.

My main message is that the problem is not in the current leadership, it is not even with you, Devin. My message is that we need to come up with a resolution to maintain all of our gains, so that when leaders go inactive, there will always be an enduring circulation of activity.
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Legitkills321 is not online. Legitkills321
Joined: 10 Apr 2011
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13 Oct 2012 11:23 AM
I can host trainings or wars if you need me to...
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TheFuZioNSKuLL is not online. TheFuZioNSKuLL
Joined: 12 Sep 2011
Total Posts: 54
13 Oct 2012 11:41 AM
I agree Sir.
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Devin5134 is not online. Devin5134
Joined: 25 Apr 2008
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13 Oct 2012 08:12 PM
I just think RoC is WAY too RI mainstream. Just look at who runs RoC, RI. RI is all over RoC. Not a single RoC-only member governs RoC. That's why I think the HR's are corrupt.
Just look a Mako and his rebellion and how many RI members/HR's followed him, and some came crawling back whining for their rank back.

RI HR's really only follow orders from you, Wannabet, since you're their Grand Leader, and you own RI, they grant more loyalty to you since I don't own RI, and I've never governed RI at all. Just think if you were a member of some group, and some new person that you've never seen at all takes you over. Thats the RoC-RI conflict that goes on EVERY. SINGLE. DAY.

~}Princeps Imperatoris of NTPC{~ ~}Princeps Imperatoris of RoC{~
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Renz270 is not online. Renz270
Joined: 25 Aug 2009
Total Posts: 831
14 Oct 2012 12:07 AM
"Not a single RoC-only member governs RoC. That's why I think the HR's are corrupt."

Wait, so...

You're saying just because there are no RoC-only HR's, the RI/RoC ones are corrupt?
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