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Pros and cons of religous stuff,

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SgtTrollFaic is not online. SgtTrollFaic
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02 Oct 2012 11:12 PM
Might as well call it pros and cons of Christian stuff. Want sources? Tell me the point you doubt below and I'll give you some.

Pros:
-Hope????????? >implying irreligious dont have hope
-Morals, but has some intolerant moral

Cons:
"-Religious people think they have better morals but they don't
-Religion teaches sеxism, hоmophobia, slavery, etc.
-Things said from the Bible have been proven wrong, therefore worship is a waste of valuable time
-Disbelief in factual things that have more evidence than religion like evolution, Big Bang, etc.
-On average, theists have lower IQs than atheists. Coincidence?? NO! Correlation!
-Intolerance towards other beliefs or lack thereof
-Terrorism, wars, violence
-Stats say praying is ineffective"

-Some religious people have good moral standards, others don't. It depends on what you define as a good moral standard.
-Correction: One religion's book which has been changed so many times, there are probably at least 100 hundred different interpretations on it, hints at these.
-Christianity is not the only religion. Regardless, certain things from the bible are correct, other things are false, just like science.
-Something is not factual until it is proven. Evolution, the Big Bang, and Creationism are all theories. Claiming any one of the is factual is just utter stupidity.
-On average, atheists don't understand their own beliefs and claim that atheism "is the belief in science". I doubt you actually pulled that from a statistic, but it's also important to remember that IQ testing isn't a test of your intelligence, but a test of your potential mental capacity.
-In certain beliefs, yes. Some have completely disregarded this. Atheism isn't very tolerant either, and I'd say it's the most intolerant belief in the US, currently.
-Most wars and violence in the past century have been directly related to political and social difference. The War on Terror may seem like a religious war, but is really just one group declaring war on another's way of life.
-Keeping a positive outlook on life is very important, so praying is definitely effective in that sense.
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Cr4ft is not online. Cr4ft
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02 Oct 2012 11:19 PM
I like the kid above me.
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sinii is not online. sinii
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02 Oct 2012 11:19 PM
"-Something is not factual until it is proven. Evolution, the Big Bang, and Creationism are all theories. Claiming any one of the is factual is just utter stupidity."

You were looking for sources, I suppose? Also, Christianity is not a theory, to be a theory needs to be tested to see if it's factual.

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"-On average, atheists don't understand their own beliefs and claim that atheism "is the belief in science". I doubt you actually pulled that from a statistic, but it's also important to remember that IQ testing isn't a test of your intelligence, but a test of your potential mental capacity."

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Don't just use my sources! Search the web for more with my side of the "argument."
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SgtTrollFaic is not online. SgtTrollFaic
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03 Oct 2012 12:03 AM
A theory is anything with enough evidence to make it plausible.

The first link just showed that poorer countries tend to have lower IQ's per capita, irrelevant of religion, while first world countries tend to have higher IQ's.

The second was a study of English 7th-12th grade students in one school which had very small differences in IQ between very-atheist and very theist.

Perhaps it would suit you better to read through your sources before posting them.
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SgtTrollFaic is not online. SgtTrollFaic
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03 Oct 2012 12:11 AM
The Big Bang theory is just a theory supported by hundreds of other theories.

The link you provided on evolution made points that were very irrelevant to evolution, and only pointed out that many forms of life have the ability to have DNA. It also shows our DNA APPEARS slightly similar to certain animals, which means it could be VERY different and not alike in any way shape or form. It also just randomly defines what a fossil is. The embryo "proof" somehow relates that the spines of certain animals are similar, and therefore we must be the same, despite the creatures being vastly different. It then goes on to state that the fact that bacteria can adapt to anti-biotics means that the are undergoing evolution and becoming a completely new thing (They aren't, they are just building a chemical resistance to them.)
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XC6 is not online. XC6
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03 Oct 2012 01:28 AM
I'm pretty sure Evolution has been studied closely enough, and recreated in a laboratory for it to be called a fact.
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CommanderRoblock is not online. CommanderRoblock
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03 Oct 2012 02:47 AM
Often contradicts modern science. < - The Quran describes in great accuracy the stages of human development inside the mother's womb.

Often creates morality issues. < - Here are some of the abrahamic religions shared, "bigoted morals" as Sinii puts it: Don't steal, don't murder, don't violate, do not lie.

"Weakness and cowardice lead to disgrace and he who is steadfast is more deserving." - Khalid I'bin Al-Waleed at the battle of Yarmouk
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SSstar is not online. SSstar
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03 Oct 2012 05:42 AM
Who came up with the Big Bang theory guys...?
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CommanderRoblock is not online. CommanderRoblock
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03 Oct 2012 06:15 AM
Buddhists aren't peaceful.

They displaced 80,000 Muslims in Bangladesh and killed 1,500.


"Weakness and cowardice lead to disgrace and he who is steadfast is more deserving." - Khalid I'bin Al-Waleed at the battle of Yarmouk
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sinii is not online. sinii
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03 Oct 2012 07:38 AM
"Here are some of the abrahamic religions shared, "bigoted morals" as Sinii puts it:"


No, I meant bigoted morals such as slavery, hоmophobia, sехism, are encouraged by your religious books.
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MeGustaUganda is not online. MeGustaUganda
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03 Oct 2012 11:37 AM
The Big Bang theory is just a theory supported by hundreds of other theories.

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A theory is the closest you can get to a fact.

Thus it must be tested, and provided with proof.

Questioning big bang is like questioning cells, gravity, atoms etc.

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It then goes on to state that the fact that bacteria can adapt to anti-biotics means that the are undergoing evolution and becoming a completely new thing (They aren't, they are just building a chemical resistance to them.)

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But how do they get that chemical resistance? Magic? I think not. They can't be all same, otherwise they would die out and we won't have to bother with this flu crap. It is that they have small genetical differences that may make them able to survive, and they pass that information to next generation so they can have that resistance to anti-biotics as well. That's natural selection, they don't get resistance by magic.
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MeGustaUganda is not online. MeGustaUganda
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03 Oct 2012 11:42 AM
The Quran describes in great accuracy the stages of human development inside the mother's womb.

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And also sticks with the "flat, centric earth theory".

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Here are some of the abrahamic religions shared, "bigoted morals" as Sinii puts it: Don't steal, don't murder, don't violate, do not lie.

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Not stealing is a moral based on basic instincts, so is "don't murder", define closely "don't violate" and lies can be sometimes moral, assuming it is a white lie.

Also religion's morals aren't just 10 commandments, there are lots of really stupid and by today's society very immoral acts you are supposed to do. I do understand that you do not use your religion as a moral source and more like to follow your own moral compass, and I am grateful for that, you can believe in any god you want, just as much as you don't endanger someone elses freedoms against their own will.
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Ryplayer is not online. Ryplayer
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03 Oct 2012 12:15 PM
"It then goes on to state that the fact that bacteria can adapt to anti-biotics means that the are undergoing evolution and becoming a completely new thing (They aren't, they are just building a chemical resistance to them."




You do not understand biology in the slightest.
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AeLiSTaS3 is not online. AeLiSTaS3
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03 Oct 2012 12:20 PM
Without religion there won't even be any other incentive other than curiosity for researching science.

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Of course, we needed to master science to prove you wrong.
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XC6 is not online. XC6
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03 Oct 2012 12:29 PM
"You do not understand biology in the slightest."

This.
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03 Oct 2012 12:59 PM
interesting
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04 Oct 2012 01:21 AM
And also sticks with the "flat, centric earth theory".
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Njet comradeski.

It describes the world as round like an ostrich egg.


"Weakness and cowardice lead to disgrace and he who is steadfast is more deserving." - Khalid I'bin Al-Waleed at the battle of Yarmouk
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BloodThirstyGuest is not online. BloodThirstyGuest
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04 Oct 2012 08:40 AM
Cons
The feel of being superior than people who believe something different than me.
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Thats called an eveangelical.

And it is not limited to only Religion.

Just look at athiests on this forum.
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BloodThirstyGuest is not online. BloodThirstyGuest
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04 Oct 2012 08:41 AM

Cons
Disbelief in science
If there was no religion we would be much more advanced BUUUUT NOOOOO Jesus and all dem lot came along no offense to muslims they are ok
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well someone has tunnel vision.
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AeLiSTaS3 is not online. AeLiSTaS3
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04 Oct 2012 10:37 AM
Cons
The feel of being superior than people who believe something different than me.
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Thats called an eveangelical.

And it is not limited to only Religion.

Just look at athiests on this forum.

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Just because AgentK5 is a bad example for atheists it doesn't mean all atheists are like that generally.
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BloodThirstyGuest is not online. BloodThirstyGuest
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04 Oct 2012 02:48 PM
Just because AgentK5 is a bad example for atheists it doesn't mean all atheists are like that generally.
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LOL there are alot of eveangelical athiests on the internet.

Did I say all athiests are eveangelical? I disagree very much with any group being steriotyped in reality.

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