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| 25 Sep 2012 06:26 PM |
Pro capitalism people say stuff like 'lulz, if p00re pepul wurk hrad dey can giev dar famlees a howz n fode. i mene, u haev tu wurk fo lief bcuz if u r bron en bed condishunz u r destin3 2 dai unlez u werk hrad 101'
you shouldn't have to work hard for housing and clothing. you people yap about free speech when there's 20 homes for sale for every homeless person. how can you say this system works? it clearly does not. |
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| 25 Sep 2012 06:44 PM |
you shouldn't have to work hard for housing and clothing. you people yap about free speech when there's 20 homes for sale for every homeless person. how can you say this system works? it clearly does not --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9/10 homeless people got what they have because of themselves. |
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| 25 Sep 2012 06:44 PM |
| It basically rewards hard workers, rich or poor, and insures a good economy. |
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| 25 Sep 2012 06:46 PM |
| it is actually fairer as well, because a man who works hard and one who doesn't getting the same thing isn't fair. |
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| 25 Sep 2012 08:54 PM |
| I think the whole laziness thing is abstract and not as simple as not wanting to work or not. Many communist countries had the "he who does not work does not eat" system. But it's not like in Capitalism. |
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Hyphalax
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| 25 Sep 2012 08:56 PM |
"you shouldn't have to work hard for housing and clothing"
so someone should be able to live their life off of other people's involuntarily donated money? |
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| 25 Sep 2012 08:57 PM |
you shouldn't have to work hard for housing and clothing. you people yap about free speech when there's 20 homes for sale for every homeless person. how can you say this system works? it clearly does not. ---------- HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!
So says the marxist autocrat who would have philosophers making decisions! |
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| 25 Sep 2012 08:59 PM |
| it would be much simpler if you lazy pseudo commie americans just lived off the land |
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| 25 Sep 2012 08:59 PM |
| some homeless people need a kickstarter to get a job(so they can be presentable and have somewhere to live short-term while they look for a job) but the system is filled with leeches who are just lazy and don't search for jobs |
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| 25 Sep 2012 09:03 PM |
so someone should be able to live their life off of other people's involuntarily donated money? - money is an abstract concept. if you want to be technical, it wouldn't be 'donated money' it'd be collectivised resources.
HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!
So says the marxist autocrat who would have philosophers making decisions! - what?
it would be much simpler if you lazy pseudo commie americans just lived off the land - i'm not a farmer, but yeah i guess you're right.
some homeless people need a kickstarter to get a job(so they can be presentable and have somewhere to live short-term while they look for a job) but the system is filled with leeches who are just lazy and don't search for jobs - again, we need to analyze the system and see how we can turn these people into productive members of society. it's not as simple as just giving them every money and hoping they'll do the right thing. |
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| 25 Sep 2012 09:05 PM |
Marxists consider it silly how people have to work for the simplest of things.
In the Free market, this is how it works, and its very efficient. If you work hard enough to get what you want, you will get it in the end.
Not only have you achieved what you desired, you also helped someone else achieve what they desired. Thus, wealth has been created. |
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| 25 Sep 2012 09:06 PM |
HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!
So says the marxist autocrat who would have philosophers making decisions! - what?
----------- Example of hipster fadism. |
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| 25 Sep 2012 09:08 PM |
You wont ever sell your posessions for the poor.
bet your computer could nab alot of canned food. |
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| 25 Sep 2012 09:16 PM |
xample of hipster fadism. - see? you're not making sense. youre making vague statements that could mean anything
Marxists consider it silly how people have to work for the simplest of things. - yes because it'd be much fairer and cheaper in the long run if at least the essentials were collectivised
In the Free market, this is how it works, and its very efficient. - look, of course it's more efficient, but this isnt about efficiency, this is about fairness, this is why people would have a job to assign each thing a specific value. because it's *fair*er than letting the value of each good be assigned at random.
You wont ever sell your posessions for the poor. - i donated most of my old stuff to the salvation army :/
bet your computer could nab alot of canned food. - it could, but i volunteer at a youth center for poor minority kids (6-10 yay for revolutionary nationalism) i think that balances it out. |
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| 25 Sep 2012 09:16 PM |
| Because it was bought with my wealth, and no-one has the right to take it away. |
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| 25 Sep 2012 09:17 PM |
xample of hipster fadism. - see? you're not making sense. youre making vague statements that could mean anything - Apparently you have forgotten about your Idea of Philosopher Autocracy. |
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| 25 Sep 2012 09:18 PM |
bet your computer could nab alot of canned food. - it could, but i volunteer at a youth center for poor minority kids (6-10 yay for revolutionary nationalism) i think that balances it out. - No it hasent becuase people are still poor.
Since most wont give you still have to!
To bad! |
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| 25 Sep 2012 09:32 PM |
| for poor minority kids? so poor children who arent a minority arent allowed? wow Obama is a black supremacist as always |
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| 25 Sep 2012 09:57 PM |
| ogm magn00b som ppl rnt llowed 2 hav humen rites cus thy cant get of job an dey lasy!!11 thy al lasy no mater whut thar no otehr facters tha make ppl pour1 |
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| 25 Sep 2012 09:59 PM |
ogm magn00b som ppl rnt llowed 2 hav humen rites cus thy cant get of job an dey lasy!!11 thy al lasy no mater whut thar no otehr facters tha make ppl pour1 --------------- Oh yes Wealth redistribution is a human right!
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| 25 Sep 2012 10:03 PM |
| ya fud weter haus an kloths r humen rite!!!!1 an lasy ppl r gon die cus tha aint notign als tat maks ppl nat rich!2 |
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| 25 Sep 2012 10:07 PM |
ya fud weter haus an kloths r humen rite!!!!1 ----------- No one said it wasent.
It's not Christmas carol.
an lasy ppl r gon die cus tha aint notign als tat maks ppl nat rich!2 --------- And those who dont work purposefully and expect to get the same as those who try those who cant and those who do yes quite frankly I think they do deserve death |
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| 25 Sep 2012 10:12 PM |
@Rubix
actually, some homeless are there because Reagan shutoff a bunch of mental hospitals and homeless shelters |
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| 25 Sep 2012 10:12 PM |
| u nаt riсh u don hеve bс u luk like a n00b lаsy hоm lаss hоb1 u shоd dіе gо of rоllbox сus u stарid lаsy!!!!1 |
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| 25 Sep 2012 10:13 PM |
u nаt riсh u don hеve bс u luk like a n00b lаsy hоm lаss hоb1 u shоd dіе gо of rоllbox сus u stарid lаsy!!!!1 -------------------------- Nope im just practicle. |
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