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SHAD0WCAT is not online. SHAD0WCAT
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15 Sep 2012 10:03 AM
inb4ww2

"Instead of a war on poverty they've got a war on drugs so the Police can bother me" - Tupac
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Supremmacy is not online. Supremmacy
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15 Sep 2012 11:23 AM
Won is a strong word indeed. World war 2 was won by a group of nations, so was World war 1, and Korea, we're fighting our own war on Terror and Drugs, though those are both pointless, meaningless, and un-achievable.
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sasuke987654321555 is not online. sasuke987654321555
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15 Sep 2012 11:25 AM
well we've maintained our way of life since we were founded so we haven't lost any.
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Supremmacy is not online. Supremmacy
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15 Sep 2012 11:29 AM
Maintained? Bull crap. Go back a hundred years and women start gaining rights, and are still looked upon as creatures that are highly beatable. Go back 50 years and racial segregation's making us fascists - the very same thing we fought in World War 2, and somewhat communistic in a couple ways - another thing we were fighting back then. Go back 25 years and fathers would still smack their kids, and their wives, and we were fading away from thinking the evils of the world were the Germans, to the Communists, to the Islamic race, and things were still uneven. Today there are laws protecting everyone from things as simple as bullying, which I've heard is still a very big problem in Germany, and Korans are burnt to show hate against the middle east.
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sasuke987654321555 is not online. sasuke987654321555
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15 Sep 2012 11:30 AM
has the constitution and our rights changed?

no.

so leave.
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Supremmacy is not online. Supremmacy
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15 Sep 2012 11:32 AM
Yes. Back when the constitution was written we still fought with muskets and carried guns proud. Today gun laws are strict, and violence is easily sparked. Rights, constitutional or not, are being changed under our noses.
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sasuke987654321555 is not online. sasuke987654321555
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15 Sep 2012 11:33 AM
the founding rights of freedom of religion, speech, etc are still in place.

all the nations we've fought have been based on restriction of rights.

if we had lost, we would have lost the rights as well.



also, no attack while at war has ever reached the US.
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Supremmacy is not online. Supremmacy
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15 Sep 2012 11:38 AM
Freedom of speech just caused 10 countries to wage war on us, as a few people did to them. Nations before the Cold war/Korean war were fought because either we were attacked on our soil, or for land. Nations Korean War+ were mainly because we were scared of the Communists, Islamic race, etcetera, and because we had to maintain dominance.

The revolutionary war was on US Soil, 9/11 was US soil, war of 1812 was US soil, World War 2 reached US soil, our war for land against the Mexicans was on what is now our soil, war against the natives of our country was on our soil.
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15 Sep 2012 11:38 AM
Revolutionary War, thats all I can think of.
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Supremmacy is not online. Supremmacy
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15 Sep 2012 11:40 AM
Well, wars that we fought without any outside help, maybe the war against the natives, and against the Mexicans.
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15 Sep 2012 11:40 AM
Freedom of speech just caused 10 countries to wage war on us, as a few people did to them.
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this just proves you're blind to world events. turn on the news and see the libyan people holding up signs apologizing to america for this.


The revolutionary war was on US Soil,
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the us was not yet established, so no.


9/11 was US soil
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this wasn't during war time


, war of 1812 was US soil,
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again, the us was not yet established



World War 2 reached US soil
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suprise attack on pearl harbor during peace-time.


, our war for land against the Mexicans was on what is now our soil,
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but during the actual war it was mexico


war against the natives of our country was on our soil.
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that was before the us was established
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15 Sep 2012 11:42 AM
DAAAAAAANG!
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Supremmacy is not online. Supremmacy
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15 Sep 2012 11:56 AM
this just proves you're blind to world events. turn on the news and see the libyan people holding up signs apologizing to america for this.
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Really? I'll have to check up. Though I'm sure that there are still other countries upset for reasons other than being scared of imperialists, the same ones that give them money, taking over their country.


the us was not yet established, so no.
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It was established after, you are correct, though it was still on our soil.


this wasn't during war time
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Though it caused war.


again, the us was not yet established
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Though it was an independent nation from the British.



surprise attack on pearl harbor during peace-time.
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And in Alaska, where we captured Japanese Zeros


but during the actual war it was mexico
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Because we took their land and displayed hostility


that was before the us was established
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It became independent from Britain's empire after the Revolutionary war. In the 1900s, we still pounded the original Natives, until they had very tiny "reservations" to live, in which case it was pointless since there were bigger, better cities out there.
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15 Sep 2012 12:06 PM
"all the nations we've fought have been based on restriction of rights."

The US has also supported its share of right wind dictatorships.
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Supremmacy is not online. Supremmacy
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15 Sep 2012 12:08 PM
Well of course, Commander, because they don't pose a threat to us supposedly.
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MahPizzaIsHere is not online. MahPizzaIsHere
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15 Sep 2012 12:59 PM
well we've maintained our way of life since we were founded so we haven't lost any.

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The correct statement would be that we've been able to maintain a reasonably independent evolution of our way of life.
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15 Sep 2012 01:07 PM
"Islamic race"

What is this

I don't even

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MahPizzaIsHere is not online. MahPizzaIsHere
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15 Sep 2012 01:11 PM
I believe the correct term is "Islamist race."

lololololololololololno
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sinii is not online. sinii
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15 Sep 2012 01:14 PM
"I believe the correct term is "Islamist race."

Islamist is interchangeable with Islamic.
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15 Sep 2012 01:15 PM
guyse islam is a dogfood nota rase
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17 Sep 2012 05:28 PM
@sasuke
The us was established in 1776...
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17 Sep 2012 05:32 PM
@Supremmacy

You say freedom of speech caused 10 countries to declare war on the US.

I'd say, its worth the fight.
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17 Sep 2012 06:20 PM
I say you are both total morons as that never happened.
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17 Sep 2012 07:26 PM
Tupac, the rapper?
Or the guy who the rapper named himself after?
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