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coldbloodedkiller9 is not online. coldbloodedkiller9
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09 Sep 2012 03:57 PM

Ever found an unpopular place, and thought, "this belongs on the front page"

I know I have, and now there’s a way to DONATE. Not to the player himself, but to a fund set aside for running ads on a place, using a click to donate button, directly next to the play button.

Hitting that button would take you to a different screen, asking how much you want to donate

How would I find all these new places? Well there should be a new tab in games, “new”. It would show all the new games, by creation date, Newest to oldest. You could browse around there looking for games you think would be a hit.

Say you find a new place, with AMAZING scripting, gameplay, and it's a generally great game. You have the option to donate anywhere up to 5000tix, or robux, to go toward running ads, with a 10% donation fee of course. You get 5% back, up to twice the amount you donated.

Another feature would be to prevent people from donating to games already on the front page. If a place goes a certain amount of time without a lot of visits, you can donate to it again! Say… 100 times in a month. So basically, if a place isn’t visited at least 100 times in one month, donated becomes available again.)

But what if there's someone I don’t want donating to me? Well, all donations would have to be approved by the place owner, therefore solving that problem, and stopping people from giving stupid donations, such as 1 tix. This could also prevent many cases of alt abuse, because the owner can deny alts. But as soon as the owner clicks accept, it’s a done deal. Accepting and denying would work like friend requests. It would show who’s donating, how much, and the accept/decline buttons.

In version 1 and 2 of this idea, it was pointed out that alt abuse would be a problem. But reptilekid thought of a way to prevent this! How, you may ask? Well its simple, your account has to be over 30 days old to donate. This will remove the problem of brand new alts immediately donating to their main’s place. As for the older alts, that’s just a problem that will have to remain until someone thinks of some way to stop them.

But what if my place gets really popular? And then I want to reset it and start over? Well, you add on to the reset button, where it gives you the option to reset your place’s visits, along with the place itself. You would have to completely reset your place if you wanted to reset your place visits. But what if someone copies there place into a reset place in order to get their friends rich? Report it for fraud of a sort.

Situation A: the place gets popular, gets a lot of visits, etc. and you donated 10 tix.
For every 100 tix the place brings in, you get a 5% return. So you get 5 tix for every 100 visits, until the debt of 20 tix is paid off to you, after the debt is paid off, you no longer receive money from the place’s income. Converting this to robux is simple (10 tix=1 robux). Therefore, if you still go by the same return rate, for every 200 visits you get 1 robux until your debt of a maximum of 10k robux is paid off.

Situation B: the place flops. No one visits it, it’s absolutely hopeless. You can pull whatever is left of the funds you donated, but most of it was probably used toward running ads.

Example
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SCS makes an AWESOME place, but has no money to run ads.
I can’t build/script worth a penny, but have plenty of money.
I donate 500 tix to SCS's ad revenue.
SCS uses my 500 tix to run ads, and his place gets on the first page.
For every 100 visits he gets, I get 5 tix, a fair 5% return.
When I get 1000tix back (double the amount I donated) I no longer receive money from whatevs44's place visits.

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Pros.
Would help new builders and investors with good building skills, and an eye for good investments, get a good start.
Teach kids how to handle their money (a needed skill these days)
An alternate way of making money, for EVERYONE, not just BC.
Another way of investing, other than limited items.

Cons.
Possible alt abuse, but not as extreme as it was.
People crying about bad investments they made. (Their fault.)
Inbox spam for donations. (Settings)
Comment spam for donations. (Can be ignored, or a new anti-spam system can be added such as this-http://www.roblox.com/Forum/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=73429194)
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FEED BACK
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Credit-
To whatevs44 for his post on a system to stop spam, and for replying to the original version of this idea to help with its general development
To reptilekid for the idea on how to prevent alt abuse.


Reply rules
All TL;DRs will be counted as a support.
All no support without reason will be counted as a support.
All trolling/spamming replies will be counted as a support.
READ the entire post before posting.
Bumps of support are highly appreciated.
I enjoy people pointing out flaws with my idea, but any posts such as "no your idea is stupid and dumb" will be reported for PA, and counted as a support.
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TL;DR-Good! You support!
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“Language has always been a function of ‘close enough’”- Xerolayne

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thomje112 is not online. thomje112
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09 Sep 2012 04:02 PM
SUPPORT!!
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Malconer is not online. Malconer
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09 Sep 2012 04:09 PM
support, but the new section should be recently updated, i reuse old places.
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coldbloodedkiller9 is not online. coldbloodedkiller9
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10 Sep 2012 07:18 PM
Bump
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Flunken is not online. Flunken
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10 Sep 2012 07:19 PM
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IHighFivedYourFace11 is not online. IHighFivedYourFace11
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10 Sep 2012 07:20 PM
Support
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Aleezybaby0 is not online. Aleezybaby0
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10 Sep 2012 07:20 PM
Just give the creator some money and hope he uses it on ads, theres no way to moderate how users spend their money.
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10 Sep 2012 07:21 PM
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coldbloodedkiller9 is not online. coldbloodedkiller9
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10 Sep 2012 07:21 PM
Yeah no one ever really reads the whole thing.

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kevin756 is not online. kevin756
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10 Sep 2012 07:21 PM
Didn't read it yet; just making a statement.

"All no support without reason will be counted as a support."
If that was the case, then this what I think should be added in,
"Then all support without a reason will be counted as a no support."

HOOPLA
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coldbloodedkiller9 is not online. coldbloodedkiller9
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10 Sep 2012 07:22 PM
@Aleezy

Can you GIVE Nbc money? No.

Is there any guarantee that your money won't be stolen? no.
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Aleezybaby0 is not online. Aleezybaby0
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10 Sep 2012 07:22 PM
Obviously i wasn't talking about NBC. The games you think qualify as front page material most likely aren't because well... They arent on the front page.
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coldbloodedkiller9 is not online. coldbloodedkiller9
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10 Sep 2012 07:23 PM
@Aleezy

Did you even bother to read the post?
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Aleezybaby0 is not online. Aleezybaby0
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10 Sep 2012 07:26 PM
No.
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coldbloodedkiller9 is not online. coldbloodedkiller9
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10 Sep 2012 07:27 PM
Then thanks for your support.
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kevin756 is not online. kevin756
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10 Sep 2012 07:28 PM
Half support...
But I think that if the money donated isn't used in 30 days, then it should be returned to the owner.

HOOPLA
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ZebraPlox is not online. ZebraPlox
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10 Sep 2012 07:29 PM
So, donating the place money would give the user the money, or automatically send it in for the AD?


Plus, even with the thirty days, alt abusing is still possible.
Within 30 days, one account can get about 300 TIX, which would be helpful for the alt abuser.
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coldbloodedkiller9 is not online. coldbloodedkiller9
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10 Sep 2012 07:29 PM
@Kevin

I like that.

I like it alot.
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coldbloodedkiller9 is not online. coldbloodedkiller9
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10 Sep 2012 07:30 PM
@Zebra

No the money doesn't go directly to the player, it goes to an ad revenue set aside just for running ads.

As for the sALTy abuse, I don't know. Any ideas?
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1hackteh is not online. 1hackteh
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10 Sep 2012 07:33 PM
What aleezy said.
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coldbloodedkiller9 is not online. coldbloodedkiller9
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10 Sep 2012 07:33 PM
@1hack

Read post.

Try again.

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1hackteh is not online. 1hackteh
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10 Sep 2012 07:34 PM
Thank you for your support.
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ZebraPlox is not online. ZebraPlox
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10 Sep 2012 07:35 PM
You can't guarantee a place would become popular because of this, nor can you guarantee anyone else would like the place your investing, meaning, no one would bother playing it long, thus, making it a loss of money and a frustration for some.


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coldbloodedkiller9 is not online. coldbloodedkiller9
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10 Sep 2012 07:37 PM
"for some."

Bingo.

There are some times when this would work. It's all about smart investing.
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ZebraPlox is not online. ZebraPlox
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10 Sep 2012 07:40 PM
"some times"

Bingo.

You can't guarantee:

- The person that's getting donated would actually make a decent ad.
- People would actually click the ad.
- People would actually play the game.
- Anyone would have the same likes and dislikes as you.
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