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Re: Appealed bans should be canceled out.

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HatHelper is not online. HatHelper
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30 Aug 2012 08:55 PM
If not completely deleted, they should be marked in red, or green, or something, that way mods will clearly see that it was a mistake, and shouldn't be counted against the person.
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ZebraPlox is not online. ZebraPlox
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30 Aug 2012 08:58 PM
Appealed bans should be canceled out of what, exactly?
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adamgren is not online. adamgren
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30 Aug 2012 08:59 PM
NO, just be a good boy and keep your nose clean

theres a good lad

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PESTlLENCE is not online. PESTlLENCE
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30 Aug 2012 08:59 PM
Well to be honest, I don't think they exactly care. As other people say, they bans are just to make sure people do the right thing, and then scare them into doing it after so many times. If they can just cancel out bans, then people would be doing this all the time. It really depends on the offense and how severe it really was.
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yankeejr is not online. yankeejr
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30 Aug 2012 08:59 PM
Copied my idea!


http://www.roblox.com/Content-Deleted-place?id=504117 - Link on my forum

copy paste it
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ZebraPlox is not online. ZebraPlox
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30 Aug 2012 09:00 PM
@yankeejr;

Wow, nice idea of yours.
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Paramore2 is not online. Paramore2
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30 Aug 2012 09:01 PM
ZebraPlox stole my words.

▽ ::I~SHALL~TOTO~AGAIN:: ▽
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ZebraPlox is not online. ZebraPlox
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30 Aug 2012 09:03 PM
@Paramore;

These?

- "Appealed bans should be canceled out of what, exactly?"


Or these?:

- "Wow, nice idea of yours."


Or do you possibly mean these?:

-"my words"
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HatHelper is not online. HatHelper
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30 Aug 2012 09:09 PM
If you get banned, and they decide it was unfair, and appeal it(meaning unbanning you before the ban expires), they should put it in your record that it was appealed, meaning it wasn't fair.

So if you got two 14 dayers, but both were wrong and got corrected, it won't look bad for the next moderation.
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ZebraPlox is not online. ZebraPlox
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30 Aug 2012 09:11 PM
Although I do think this idea should be implemented, it will be just easier to NOT get banned and follow the rules.
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jacob726 is not online. jacob726
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30 Aug 2012 09:12 PM
I like it, although if you actually look at the record; it's obvious by the date.
but still, some sort of color-coding, or even better, complete removal of an appealed moderation act from your moderation history would be good.

~>"S&Iの非公式なボス"の一つ。<~
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MasterChiefAlpha is not online. MasterChiefAlpha
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30 Aug 2012 09:12 PM
Appealed bans ARE taken into consideration. We can see when a ban has been overturned in a user's moderation history.

So I understand the sentiment but what you're describing isn't really how moderation works.
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PESTlLENCE is not online. PESTlLENCE
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30 Aug 2012 09:12 PM
I suppose that would make sense. But even then, don't you think if you saw that they had two cleared bans and then got banned and you're moderating it and they did something like using bad language, and you saw those two appealed bans, wouldn't you probably make it longer then 14 days anyway? They would still look at it as a bad thing and probably not give you the benefit of the doubt and end up giving you a longer one anyway. But still, I like the idea of it.
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HatHelper is not online. HatHelper
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30 Aug 2012 09:15 PM
I'm sure you can understand why I'm saying this. After all, the incorrect ban happened in the first place, what are the chances that maybe one of the mods doesn't notice the expiration date in the next report? I had a clean record of over a year until this morning :P
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ZebraPlox is not online. ZebraPlox
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30 Aug 2012 09:19 PM
As long as one follows the rules, punishment should stay how it is, regardless if it's appealed or not.
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HatHelper is not online. HatHelper
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30 Aug 2012 09:21 PM
You don't seem to get the point. If you didn't do anything wrong, and you got banned for it, and the mods undo it, I think it should be made clear for the next mod that it was appealed.
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Almagro is not online. Almagro
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30 Aug 2012 09:22 PM
@zebra
I honestly don't see how you can disagree with this. There is literally no problem with implanting this into ROBLOX.
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JulienDethurens is not online. JulienDethurens
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30 Aug 2012 09:22 PM
@HatHelper

According to MasterChief, appealed bans are already marked at such, and in a more noticeable way than just the fact that they overwrite the previous ban by replacing it with a warning/reminder/whatever.
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HatHelper is not online. HatHelper
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30 Aug 2012 09:23 PM
And the mods don't have to do anything. Only the coders.
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HatHelper is not online. HatHelper
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30 Aug 2012 09:24 PM
Well I didn't know that before I made this thread. If you didn't look at all the expiration dates, I'd be guilty of an extra 14 days, 7 days, and a reminder.
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JulienDethurens is not online. JulienDethurens
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30 Aug 2012 09:25 PM
HatHelper, it's ALREADY in place. It's just we don't see it, but the mods already do. According to what I can understand from MasterChief's post, they can already see when bans are appealed in the history.
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ZebraPlox is not online. ZebraPlox
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30 Aug 2012 09:26 PM
"Appealed bans ARE taken into consideration. We can see when a ban has been overturned in a user's moderation history."

This IS what you're trying to suggest, no?
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HatHelper is not online. HatHelper
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30 Aug 2012 09:29 PM
How was I supposed to know? They don't make it clear to us in our history, so this thread was a completely logical suggestion.
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JulienDethurens is not online. JulienDethurens
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30 Aug 2012 09:32 PM
@HatHelper

I never said the opposite. I myself never knew it before. It was actually even bothering me too. But not anymore.
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Almagro is not online. Almagro
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30 Aug 2012 09:33 PM
@masterchiefalpha
Also, there should be a way to get rid of bans older than 21 days old. My old account is banned and I can't overturn it because it's over 1 year old. The mods won't even look into it.
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