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| 23 Aug 2012 08:00 PM |
Is it possible that the original series and remake series share the same universe?
In the remakes I don't think the Hewitt family ever referred to Thomas as Leatherface while in the original series I think they did. It could be possible that the Hewitt were another family in the universe.
I know Gremlins might want to have his say in this. :) |
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| 23 Aug 2012 08:02 PM |
Screw that possiblity
Just watched the ending of the 03 film.
They refer to him as Leatherface.
SOOO MUCH FOR THAT THEORY. |
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| 23 Aug 2012 08:11 PM |
Beginning of Part 3 they say that "Leatherface was most likely a alternate personality of WE Sawyer, activated when he wore human flesh masks." or somethin' like that.
With as loose continuity the sequels have with the original, why not? I haven't seen the remake series in a long time and remember nothing but the found footage scenes. But, it could work. Some of the Sawyers stay as Sawyers, the other half changes to the Hewitts. Leatherface is an alternate personality donned by certain Sawyers/Hewitts.
Works for me.
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| 23 Aug 2012 08:16 PM |
AHHH WEELL,
We'll never know now,
3D comin' out.
Remake continuity is history. :/ |
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| 23 Aug 2012 08:22 PM |
Yep.
Well now that I think of it, I like that concept of Leatherface being simply an alternate personality. Sure it'd be sweet as one single person, but it makes sense if you think about it. If we assume Leatherface was the same one in parts 1 and 2, even though it wouldn't make sense since in part 2 he's more "nice", but say he was.
At the ending of Part 2 he gets blown up. We can assume he survived and moved to a different part of his family, OR... That there were several 'Leatherface' personalities. One for each separated clan of Sawyer. That would explain why the Leatherface in part 3 is more aggressive and "tough". It'd also make more sense about the brace. A little cut in the leg like in part 1 wouldn't cause the need for that, neither would a grenade explosion.
Next Generation it could also work and would explain why Leatherface was more whiney and, well, had a bigger need to be female.
(Now you got me thinking about this .-.)
But yeah, 3D I hope will be pretty good, and maybe even have some loose connections with the later sequels? I mainly just want 3D to be the start of a new series, so we can actually get a Texas Chainsaw series with solid continuity instead of needing to make crackpot theories to make it seem like they connect.
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| 23 Aug 2012 08:26 PM |
Oh, god.
Next Generation gave me nightmares.
I think we can agree Massacre has the worst continuity ever. If this film ties with the original and forgets the other sequels we can establish solid continuity which is what I am hoping for, but I totally ship the concept of other families and/or personalities.
And seeing as how Masascre may or may not relate to a bigger universe with every other horror character then why not? It works, well. |
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| 23 Aug 2012 08:33 PM |
Yeah, Next Gen. was just, off. I don't think I finished watching it though, but I have seen the ending. Makes 0 sense on why Sally Hardesty is in that half. Or God knows why the illuminati is involved.
But yeah the one thing I don't understand is how TCM 3D will create the potential sequels. If it's in present day, Leatherface is going to be in his late 60s. I don't want sequels where he's like 70 and 80 years of age. Unless he's like Grandpa and stays fit until 180 .-.
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| 24 Aug 2012 02:30 AM |
@Ultracrash the family from the original and re-make series were totally different. They didn't have a uncle dressed as cop in the original nor did the re-make have Leatherface's girl. @Gremlins the narrtor refurs to Leatherface as Leatherface, but his family call him Tommy. This is actually a bit realistic. Also, acording to a narrator, TCM happened between 1969 and 1973 so if 3D has its sequels then they would have to be set in that time. Or they could totally go off course, out of the real events of him losing his arm and have him escaping police when his family die a few years later maybe? But I doubt thet'll happen as the family, as well as Letherface, are one of the most important parts of TCM. |
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| 24 Aug 2012 08:22 AM |
Which is why I made this thread.
There are multiple differences between the familes which means that the two of them can easily fit into the same universe.
And on to your other point the 3D Film is set in the original continuity not the remake. |
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| 24 Aug 2012 08:26 AM |
Ultra he's a bit confused on that, he thinks the original movie is the third and so forth.
And I have no idea how to explain the movies because they confuse me enough as it is .-.
But yeah, I still like the alternate personality. It would also make sense since TCM and the remake take place in like the same years.
Also, didn't Drayton Sawyer make an appearance in one of the comics in the Remake continuity? Like they called him Cook Slaughter or something, but it was supposed to be Drayton I believe.
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| 24 Aug 2012 02:18 PM |
TCM orgiginal (When he has a saw that says: "The Saw Is Family XD" ) is in a different universe to re-make series, I know. I don't even know where I'm confused LOL. The way I see it: Leatherface TCM (original film) was first. TCM was a re-make of the orginal. TCM beggining was a prequil to TCM. And what did you mean "third and so forth"!? Lol. I'm sorry if I'm killing all your TCM posts by making you confused but I am lost... |
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| 24 Aug 2012 02:52 PM |
alright
the movie you keep calling the original, where Leatherface has a daughter and his chainsaw says "The Saw Is Family", is NOT the original, it is the THIRD movie.
I know it's confusing because it doesn't feel like a sequel, but it is, and it's not the original.
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| 24 Aug 2012 11:43 PM |
Super you're refering to the Massacre film simply titled Leatherface.
It is the THIRD film in the series, but has no ties to the first or second films and has its own canon.
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, MAN.
IT'S NOT THAT HARD. |
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| 25 Aug 2012 09:43 AM |
Yeah I know it's the third film, I call it the original because it was the first one made...
And lol I know this what this thread is about. It really doesn't have ties with the others. |
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| 25 Aug 2012 09:49 PM |
Wait, what?
The third film was not the first film made you will find the FIRST film was the FIRST one made.
Canon has many inconsistencies it boils down to more than ties and being the nerd I am, I like to pierce together information gathered from the movies to form one universe.
New Generations is the only film I dare not to call canon because it practically destroyed the franchise.
Thank god for the remakes. |
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| 26 Aug 2012 01:49 PM |
| Wow now you did it. You confused me more therefor plumeting your thread into more deadness. |
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| 26 Aug 2012 02:01 PM |
how did he confuse you more
THE TEXAS CHAIN SAW MASSACRE (1974) is the FIRST movie MADE. And the FIRST movie in the ORIGINAL series.
THE TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE PART 2 (1986) is the SECOND movie MADE. And the SECOND movie in the ORIGINAL series.
LEATHERFACE: THE TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE PART III (1990) is the THIRD movie MADE. And the THIRD movie in the ORIGINAL series.
THE TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE: THE NEXT GENERATION (1994) is the FOURTH movie MADE. And the FOURTH movie in the ORIGINAL series.
THE TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE (2003) is the FIFTH movie MADE. And the first movie in the REMAKE series.
THE TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE: THE BEGINNING (2006) is the SIXTH movie MADE. And the second movie in the REMAKE series.
THE TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE 3D (2013) is the SEVENTH movie MADE. And the first movie in the REBOOT series.
I can't make it any more clearer than that.
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| 26 Aug 2012 02:09 PM |
| Ok Ima stay out opf this TCM thing unless we're talking about 3D so I don't end up confusing you all. |
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| 26 Aug 2012 02:13 PM |
if you say so =x
Well, to get this back on track, some guy on IMDb talked about a script, presumably a fan script called
Real Solution: The Texas Chainsaw Massacre 5
You can find the script by googling that, but anyways, it looks like a really hardcore rob zombie-esque film. I didn't read most of it, just the end, but it sounds pretty odd.
Apparently it took it that all the Sawyers in the movies were each a individual clan that practice cannibalism and murder and so forth, after learning it from Ed Gein.
According to the script all the 'clans' were apprehended, except one. Which is the one the script circles around.
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| 26 Aug 2012 02:25 PM |
Do you have a account on IMDb?
AANNYWWAY
I read the script a while back, and I liked the concept. The idea of there being hundreds of other clans is scary, I would hate to be living in the Massacre universe. |
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| 26 Aug 2012 02:29 PM |
I have one, but I don't want to use my number or anything like that to 'fully activate' it because why in the hell would I give them my number?
Anyway, yeah, different clans is a sweet concept. Just needs to be approached a certain way for it to make sense. But I'd love for Ed Gein to be used in a TCM movie in some form other than the "inspiration of Leatherface".
And pretty much, we are in the Massacre universe. People like the Sawyers exist out there. Ed Gein was one of those people.
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| 26 Aug 2012 02:36 PM |
I hate websites which ask for personal information. ._. Anyway sorry for that random question.
Yeah, you're right.
I just find it scary putting my self in the shoes of the characters in the film universe. Dealing with the Leatherface and so on. Heres hoping that 3D has good characters.
With that aside, the script definitely sounds like a fan script. |
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| 26 Aug 2012 02:40 PM |
Doesn't the site have all kinds of info on the movie, though? Like running times and stuff? What if they filmed it and never released it?
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