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Re: I'm planning on attending school for programming.

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GeneralTrumbo is not online. GeneralTrumbo
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21 Aug 2012 07:20 PM
Would I go for the title "Computer Science" or "Computer Programming"? What is the difference? Those are the two different majors my local college offers.
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GeneralTrumbo is not online. GeneralTrumbo
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21 Aug 2012 07:23 PM
I am old enough to be going.
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pwnedu46 is not online. pwnedu46
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21 Aug 2012 07:24 PM
What college? It would help to do some research.
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QuestionableJuggs is not online. QuestionableJuggs
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21 Aug 2012 07:24 PM
I don't know about your school, but traditionally, Computer Science is the theoretical aspect of programming (algorithm theory, graphs, etc), to where Computer Programming is the application of that theory. Most universities only have Computer Science because if you have a CS degree, you know how to program.
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mustyoshi2 is not online. mustyoshi2
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21 Aug 2012 07:26 PM
@Questionable
I know more about programming from what I taught myself than what I learned in my freshman year :/
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GeneralTrumbo is not online. GeneralTrumbo
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21 Aug 2012 07:28 PM
Owens Community College. It is near me. And I am considering "Computer Programming Technology". Here is a typical class schedule:

1st Semester: BUS 102 - College & Career Professional -
      [Print Course]
BUS 102 - College & Career Professional -

Focuses on attitudes, skills and behaviors that will help students to easily and appropriately assimilate into a business environment. Will be accomplished by providing broad-based knowledge to students concerning what employers expect in the way of attitude, etiquette, appearance, work ethic and social behavior from their employees. Co-requisites: NONE Prerequisites: NONE

Credits: 2(Lec: 2)
Terms Offered: SU, F, SP


 ENG 111 - Composition I - *Ohio Transfer Module Course
      [Print Course]
ENG 111 - Composition I - *Ohio Transfer Module Course

Focuses not only on writing but also on reading and critically engaging various texts. Students will read and write essays with a variety of rhetorical purposes: Observing, explaining, investigating, evaluating, problem solving and arguing. Also includes library and electronic research culminating in research papers. Full process approach to writing using the formal elements and conventions of academic prose. (Required in all degree programs). Co-requisite: NONE Prerequisite: ENG 091, ESL 091, ESL 098 or placement by exam

Credits: 3(Lec: 3)
Terms Offered: SU, F, SP


 IST 112 - Intro to Computer Programming -
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IST 112 - Intro to Computer Programming -

Introduces the student to critical thinking concepts and problem solving techniques integral to computer programming. Introduces the student to basic computer programming concepts including program design, algorithms, control structures, data structures, and object oriented programming (OOP) using Alice 3D programming environment. Co-requisites: NONE Prerequisites: MTH 074 or MTH 096 and ENG 096 or equivalent ACT, ASSET or Compass test scores

Credits: 3(Lec: 3)
Terms Offered: SU, F, SP


 IST 131 - Computer Concepts and Apps -
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IST 131 - Computer Concepts and Apps -

Designed to provide a basic understanding of computer concepts and applications and their use in business settings. Covers word processing, spreadsheets, file organization and databases, presentation graphics, and Internet concepts. Includes essential concepts of computers, software, multimedia, computer files and storage, and computer architecture. Hands-on experience will be provided on networked computers in the Windows environment using the Microsoft Office Suite including Word, Excel, Access and PowerPoint. Co-requisites: NONE Prerequisites: MTH 091 and ENG 096, or equivalent ACT, ASSET or Compass test scores
 

Credits: 4(Lec: 4)
Terms Offered: SU, F, SP


 MTH 170 - College Algebra - *Ohio Transfer Module Course
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MTH 170 - College Algebra - *Ohio Transfer Module Course

This course, as a prerequisite for Calculus, addresses equations and inequalities, functions and relations, exponential and logarithmic functions, systems of equations, matrix operations, sequences, series and topics in analytic geometry. A graphing calculator is required. Co-requisite: NONE Prerequisite: MTH 096 with a grade of C or higher or equivalent

Credits: 4(Lec: 4)
Terms Offered: SU, F, SP


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 MTH 122 - Math for Computing -
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MTH 122 - Math for Computing -

Emphasizes basic mathematics for the computer programming student. Students explore the real number system, algebra, binary, octal and hexadecimal number systems, introductions to matrices, set theory and computer logic together with an overview of Boolean algebra, logic circuits, and an introduction to Statistics. Co-requisite: NONE Prerequisite: A grade of C or higher in MTH 091 or MTH 095 or MTH 105

Credits: 4(Lec: 4)
Terms Offered: SU, F, SP
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GeneralTrumbo is not online. GeneralTrumbo
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21 Aug 2012 07:29 PM
2nd Semester

 ACC 101 - Introductory Financial Acct -
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ACC 101 - Introductory Financial Acct -

Introduces financial, accounting terms, concepts and systems. Includes the accounting cycle, merchandise accounting and financial statement analysis. Co-requisite: NONE Prerequisite: NONE

Credits: 3(Lec: 3)
Terms Offered: SU, F, SP


 ECO 201 - Microeconomics - *Ohio Transfer Module Course
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ECO 201 - Microeconomics - *Ohio Transfer Module Course

Provides an understanding of basic economic forces and the principles which govern resource allocation and the production, distribution and consumption of goods and services. Analysis of supply, demand and price, an introduction to consumer behavior, the factor and product markets, and the evaluation of perfect and imperfect competition are discussed. (Students should refer to specific curricular requirements. Graduation credit may not be given for ECO 111 if ECO 201 is taken) Co-requisites: NONE Prerequisites: MTH 074, MTH 096 or Equivalent ACT, ASSET or Compass Test Scores

Credits: 3(Lec: 3)
Terms Offered: SU, F, SP


or
 ECO 202 - Macroeconomics - *Ohio Transfer Module Course
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ECO 202 - Macroeconomics - *Ohio Transfer Module Course

Provides an understanding of the national economy, including inflation and unemployment, national income, the monetary system, fiscal and monetary policy, and economic stability. Comparative economic systems, international trade and contemporary economic developments are considered throughout. (Students should refer to specific curricular requirements. Graduation credit not given for ECO 111 if ECO 202 is taken). Co-requisites: NONE Prerequisites: MTH 074, MTH 096 or Equivalent ACT, ASSET or Compass Test Scores
 

Credits: 3(Lec: 3)
Terms Offered: SU, F, SP


 ENG 112 - Composition II - *Ohio Transfer Module Course
      [Print Course]
ENG 112 - Composition II - *Ohio Transfer Module Course

A directed writing course, which continues the process of learning to read and critically engage various texts. Students write papers that summarize, critique, and synthesize sources, leading to researched and formally documented argumentation papers. Builds upon ENG 111 through its increased focus on academic argument and the processes of integrating written published texts. (Required in all degree programs). Co-requisite: NONE Prerequisite: ENG 111

Credits: 3(Lec: 3)
Terms Offered: SU, F, SP


 IST 144 - Intro Database Design & SQL -
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IST 144 - Intro Database Design & SQL -

Provides an introduction to database planning, design, and implementation in a relational model environment. Students will plan, design, and develop a simple database and implement it using Structured Query Language (SQL). Emphasizes database design techniques, normalization, database administration and SQL. Co-requisites: NONE Prerequisites: IST 131

Credits: 3(Lec: 3)
Terms Offered: F, SP


First Language Track:
 IST 135 - Introduction to VB.Net - 1
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IST 135 - Introduction to VB.Net -

Introduces the student to applying basic computer programming concepts including program design, algorithms, control structures, data structures, and object oriented programming (OOP) using the Visual Basic (VB) language. Co-requisites: NONE Prerequisites: IST 112

Credits: 4(Lec: 4)
Terms Offered: SU, F, SP


or
 IST 260 - Introduction to C# -
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IST 260 - Introduction to C# -

Introduces the student to applying basic computer programming concepts including program design, algorithms, control structures, data structures, and object oriented programming (OOP) using the C# language. Co-requisites: NONE Prerequisites: IST 112

Credits: 4(Lec: 4)
Terms Offered: F


or
 IST 265 - Introduction to Java -
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IST 265 - Introduction to Java -

Introduces object-oriented programming using Java with an emphasis on creating business-oriented applications. Topics include methods events, decisions, loops, objects and classes, the user interface, inheritance, arrays and string manipulation. Co-requisites: NONE Prerequisites: IST 112

Credits: 4(Lec: 4)
Terms Offered: F
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GeneralTrumbo is not online. GeneralTrumbo
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21 Aug 2012 07:30 PM
etc., etc.
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pwnedu46 is not online. pwnedu46
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21 Aug 2012 07:51 PM
It really depends on what you want to do. Most jobs in the field want at least a Bachelors degree from a 4 year university or college. Make sure your credits will transfer. Questionable gave a good explanation of the difference.

OT: Are you going this year or next?
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QuestionableJuggs is not online. QuestionableJuggs
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21 Aug 2012 07:55 PM
"@Questionable
I know more about programming from what I taught myself than what I learned in my freshman year :/"

Yeah, Me too. However, since then I've written a filesystem driver, 3d vision shader, and a Unit testing framework. it picks up, and picks up fast depending on your school.
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stravant is not online. stravant
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21 Aug 2012 09:00 PM
"Most universities only have Computer Science because if you have a CS degree, you know how to program."

This is questionable. It's totally possible to get through some programs with a passing grade without learning much at all about actual programming.

That said if you're actually interested in programming you'll probably learn way more than what's actually taught during the duration of the program.
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GeneralTrumbo is not online. GeneralTrumbo
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21 Aug 2012 10:24 PM
@pwnedu46 A great thing about this is that they do offer transferring. Part of the school's design is for students who intend on transferring to a 4-year University. I'm also using this as a form of upping my GPA.
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GeneralTrumbo is not online. GeneralTrumbo
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21 Aug 2012 10:26 PM
And I am planning on going January of next year.
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Seranok is not online. Seranok
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21 Aug 2012 10:27 PM
I'm majoring in Computer Science but hopefully going into programming. This shouldn't be too hard since have learned pretty much all I know on my own.
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GeneralTrumbo is not online. GeneralTrumbo
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21 Aug 2012 10:28 PM
@Seranok =)
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NinjaShadow1 is not online. NinjaShadow1
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21 Aug 2012 10:30 PM
Jeffrey Raikes school ftw
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pwnedu46 is not online. pwnedu46
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21 Aug 2012 10:56 PM
I'm getting an Associates in general engineering or math, then transferring to get a bachelors in mechanical engineering.
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SN0X is not online. SN0X
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22 Aug 2012 07:06 AM
college :o

old people

what's the min age to attend college?
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su8qqingcuzbanned is not online. su8qqingcuzbanned
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22 Aug 2012 08:00 AM
your system is weird

you must be like 16 to get to high school around here, then you must spend like 3 years there, so by age of 19 you could get in college
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Flurite is not online. Flurite
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22 Aug 2012 10:32 AM
You are wasting your life if you go to college before 18.
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Techboy6601 is not online. Techboy6601
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22 Aug 2012 10:37 AM
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cats247 is not online. cats247
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22 Aug 2012 10:46 AM
"You are wasting your life if you go to college before 18."

You are wasting your life going to college for programming. For the most part, if you want to get hired at a programming job, they don't even care about any education. Mostly, they will look for work experience. Look at the Jobs section on Valve's site. NO education required, just 2-4+ years of experience based on the job. The only reason to go to college is if you don't already know how to program, but if you've already done programming before, it's a complete waste of your life.
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TheMyrco is not online. TheMyrco
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22 Aug 2012 10:55 AM
@Flurite: Not in our system. In our system it is possible to be in college at the age of 16 and 17. Tough 18 is more common...
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TheMyrco is not online. TheMyrco
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22 Aug 2012 10:56 AM
@cats: You can also weork on programming besides school....so school + programming...
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Flurite is not online. Flurite
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22 Aug 2012 11:02 AM
Lets say there are 3 no-experience programmers looking for a job. One with no degree, one with a bachelors, and one with a masters.

Who is more likely to get hired?
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