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Re: [Revised x2] Group Vaults, Septs, and Alliances

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jacob726 is not online. jacob726
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12 Aug 2012 09:09 AM
Alright. As proof that I am the >Original< maker of these; here comes a link to the original thread. All edits in this will have been stated in that thread.
Link: http://www.roblox.com/Forum/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=65426940
I'd appreciate it if a mod wouldn't mind locking that one for me, as well.
Revised idea:

1: Group Vault: The group vault is just like it sounds, a "Vault" inwhich members of a group may deposit and withdraw Tix/R$. A member, or non member, can donate any amount of their current Tix and R$, and would only be able to withdraw either 1% of the current vault funds, or 100R$ (or) 1,000 Tix, every 4 days; whichever is less. The group vault could serve many purposes. Firstly; remember the Group Place feature that came before Personal Servers? Well, "Buying" or "Renting" one of those, inwhich it would automatically deduct 50R$ AND 100Tix, per week from the group vault. When the vault "Runs dry" the place is autmatically made inactive, until the group vault has the funds to support it again, and the leader of the group would also have to confirm it's re-activation. The vault would also exist as a way to purchase items in bulk for members of the group. The cost of it would come from the group vault if it had the funds, if it did not have the funds, then the purchase would be unable to be completed. It can be shown in the equation P=MI, where "P" is the total price from the vault, "M" is the members who do not already own the item, and "I" is the items initial cost per unit. Limited and Limited(U) Items would not be able to be purchased with this feature, nor would items no-longer on sale. (For example, the 2008 Visor, would not be able to be bought, neither would things like the firework gear(s) of 2011 and/or earlier.)

[Edits/Explanations] >all discussed in original page,
1: Nonmembers can not withdraw, but only deposit.
2: Purchasing of items through the vault is not affected by the withdraw limiter.
3: Personal Server payment goes to the group vault, rather than the owners ticket count.
4: Ability to set certain ranks to be able to withdraw.
5: Weekly interest of 1% on the Vault.
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2: Sept Groups: The vault could also be used to create "Sept Groups".
Sept groups would cost as much as a regular group.
They would have the same shout as the main group (Similar to copy and pasting the shout and posting it, but with some MAJOR time saving with this new website.) In addition, "Sept Groups" have no Allies, Personal Servers, or Enemies. They only have "Members", but have more rank spaces. This would show up on the main group's wall under a tab called "Septs" or "Branches" Or some other (non-)creative word you feel like coming up with. It could be better used with larger groups, who commonly have Cadet Programs and Academies.
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3: Alliances: An alliance would be a way inwhich a group can join one, and only one alliance at a time. Alliances would not show up as a group on a members profile, but would instead have it's name under the group logo in the form of a link. They would cost 75R$ per member group to form, and then 50R$ to join after it is formed. The R$ would be deducted from the group vault, not from the owners personal funds, and the Alliance would have to have ATLEAST 5 member groups pooling their money to be created. The money would not be lost, but instead would be placed inside of the Alliance Vault, basically as a "Starting fund" of atleast 375R$. The Alliance Vault would also have a deposite and withdraw feature, the currency would not go to or from the group leaders personal funds, but into, or out of, the group's vault. The possible withdraw is the same as with Group Vaults, however it has a 1 week period of waiting, instead of just 1 day before you can draw more funds. This is to avoid the collapse of the Alliance's economy/monetary system. This could help teach group leaders about how to save and spend money properly, because they may be faced with the downfall of their group if they run their group, or alliance, into the ground. Better learn fast, fellow leaders, we don't want a revolt. >.>
Alliances would have an Allies and Enemies tab, and a Member Group bar, similar to the members of a regular group, but it would list group names, and would only have 2 categories. "Founding Groups" and "Annexed Groups".
Founding Groups would have a 2% withdraw limit, instead of the 1% faced by Annexed groups. The alliance would also have a Group wall and Shout. They would only be able to be accessed by the 2 highest ranks in a member group. (255 and 254, I believe.) The wall would only be viewable by the 2 highest ranks, but the Alliance Shout would be sent to all the members of all the member groups. (So useful for some very important shouts for multiple groups, is it not?) The alliance vault would also be able to purchase items in bulk, like the group vault. It would work in the same P=MI as well.
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TL:DR : Group Banks, Group branches, and Group Alliances. Want to know more? Actually start to read it.
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Supporters on last posts: 121
Non-supporters: 7
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Side note: All unexplained non-supports and irrelevant arguments will be counted as a support.

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12 Aug 2012 09:16 AM
(incoming mature joke)

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12 Aug 2012 09:18 AM
... Lol.
Thanks for the support.
But clean the wall now. >.>

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12 Aug 2012 10:56 AM
Bump.

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12 Aug 2012 04:35 PM
Bump #2

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12 Aug 2012 05:03 PM
Spammers are attacking now... .-.

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12 Aug 2012 05:04 PM
OMG

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12 Aug 2012 05:08 PM
Support, sounds like you took a good amount of your time to write this.

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12 Aug 2012 05:11 PM
Thanks for the supports.
Also; Virtual; I spent about 3-4 hours writing out V.1 sometime during April. I forgot the exact day.
Since then; this has had very minor edits; #'s 3, 4, and 5 are the only real edits; 1 and 2 are explanations of the Vault.

The rest of it (Septs and Alliances) have been untouched since the start.

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12 Aug 2012 05:13 PM
@jacob726

Sounds like you have some serious patience. I'll get around to spending a week on a thread eventually.

Not that anyone would read it, though. ;)

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12 Aug 2012 05:15 PM
If I saw it, I'd read it. =P
I'm only patient with things I like; Groups are one of the things I like; so I can be patient with them, and with features for them.

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12 Aug 2012 06:03 PM
Bump #3.

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12 Aug 2012 07:28 PM
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12 Aug 2012 07:59 PM
Last bump of the day.
Bump #5.

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12 Aug 2012 08:10 PM
Sounds good.
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12 Aug 2012 08:24 PM
So like, if there are no funds in the group vault, there can't be a personal group server?

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jacob726 is not online. jacob726
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13 Aug 2012 04:56 AM
Incorrect.
There can be a personal server; but back in '09-10 after groups where created, there was a place made and owned by the groups. Renting one of those.
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jacob726 is not online. jacob726
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13 Aug 2012 02:36 PM
They are meant to be bought as "Extensions" to the member slot.
They are actually rather obsolete now that groups have, what... 19 ranks?

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13 Aug 2012 02:37 PM
I Agree!
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13 Aug 2012 02:42 PM
>.>

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I DONT AGREE
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