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MahPizzaIsHere is not online. MahPizzaIsHere
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12 Aug 2012 03:46 PM
I'm bored, so prove creationism.

Go.
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12 Aug 2012 04:02 PM
The laws of nature say that something can't come from nothing. Energy can't come from nothing. Matter can't come from nothing. Something, according to the laws (proven facts of nature) in the world of science. Since there was nothing, something can't possibly have come from it. The only explanation is that a force that is supernatural, beyond the laws of nature, broke the laws and made something. Then it all fell into place from there.

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12 Aug 2012 04:23 PM
As it is, I don't really believe much in each side.
But I also think that one way that something could be created is if a Being in another dimension managed to create this dimension.
Since the laws that we know only, technically (or to my understanding) apply to the 3rd dimension and not to others.
Not exactly the most soild thing but imagine how amazing that would be.
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12 Aug 2012 04:49 PM
Sinii completely missed the point. Way to go! The laws by themselves say that something can't come from nothing. They suggest that the universe never got here because nothing can't produce something. The only explanation is that the laws of nature were BROKEN by some sort of supernatural force, allowing for something to come out of nothing.
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12 Aug 2012 04:56 PM
That supernatural force was me.

lol umad
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12 Aug 2012 05:30 PM
It's simple.
Do you think Humanity is advanced enough to even be able to tell what the truth is?
Not even close.
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12 Aug 2012 05:51 PM
Evolution =/= Theory on beginning of life

Evolution = Theory on existing properties of life


Since the laws of science contradict the fact that the universe had a beginning, either the universe has always been here OR the laws of science were broken by a supernatural force which has always been here/ popped out of nowhere because it's supernatural and doesn't have to follow the laws of nature.

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12 Aug 2012 05:59 PM
Evolution =/= Theory on beginning of life

Evolution = Theory on existing properties of life


Since the laws of science contradict the fact that the universe had a beginning, either the universe has always been here OR the laws of science were broken by a supernatural force which has always been here/ popped out of nowhere because it's supernatural and doesn't have to follow the laws of nature.

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Thanks for clearing up the definition of evolution.

However, I take some issue with your paragraph on the laws of science. Physicists speculate that the big bang was the sudden expansion of a singularity: a finite amount of matter crushed into an infinite density. How this singularity sprang into existence can be attributed to a God, but in this case, something did indeed come from nothing.
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12 Aug 2012 06:07 PM
"The laws of nature say that something can't come from nothing. Energy can't come from nothing. Matter can't come from nothing. Something, according to the laws (proven facts of nature) in the world of science. Since there was nothing, something can't possibly have come from it. The only explanation is that a force that is supernatural, beyond the laws of nature, broke the laws and made something. Then it all fell into place from there."
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Proven point, I agree. I do believe in God but I'm not going to try to change someone who is from a different religion, believes in many gods, or try to change atheists from their ways of believing in science not a supernatural force.
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12 Aug 2012 06:10 PM
@Yarkosinii,

That may be true, but we have our opinions, you have yours. Lets respect eachothers opinons and find out when we pass away.
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12 Aug 2012 06:12 PM
The suspense is killing me.
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12 Aug 2012 06:16 PM
The real God is one from an obscure African faith and you've all been mislead the whole time.
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Dangit.
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12 Aug 2012 07:20 PM
Stewie caused the big bang by time travel according to family guy

but in all seriousness
who's to say that evolution and the big bang weren't caused by a supernatural being?

and who's to say that heaven wasn't another dimension? One where the creator of the rest of everything lived?

there is nothing to disprove a God either.
arguments will go on for centuries because neither side has definative proof.
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12 Aug 2012 07:42 PM
If everyone decided to keep opinions to themselves and not argue points, the human race would stop advancing.

Seriously, people? Come on.

Something coming from nothing goes against the laws of nature. In order for the universe to have a beginning, something must come from nothing. Using logic, the laws of nature are wrong or were broken.
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