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Twigs180 is not online. Twigs180
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04 Aug 2012 12:41 AM
There is a reason the homicide rate was so high. No one could fight back. When seconds matter, police are minutes away.
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SSstar is not online. SSstar
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04 Aug 2012 12:44 AM
Exactly the point of my post.
You shouldn't get rid of guns, only restrict them to a certain point such as pistols.
Because no matter how hard you try there are always going to be criminals sneaking in higher powerful guns.
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Twigs180 is not online. Twigs180
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04 Aug 2012 12:45 AM
You shouldn't get rid of guns, only restrict them to a certain point such as pistols.
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Why?
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Creatant is not online. Creatant
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04 Aug 2012 12:45 AM
"There is a reason the homicide rate was so high. No one could fight back. When seconds matter, police are minutes away."

A lot of the homicides accounted for were turf wars between groups of people who BOTH had guns.
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SSstar is not online. SSstar
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04 Aug 2012 12:47 AM
@Twigs,
Well, if your only using the gun for self defense or hunting then why do you need some automatic rifle? I'm pretty sure if someone broke into your house in the middle of the night the pump of a shotgun or a pistol being loaded is enough to scare them off.
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SouthparkFTW is not online. SouthparkFTW
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04 Aug 2012 12:48 AM
I support the use of pistols, shotguns, and small rifles for hunting and self-defence. Plus the increase of security when buying and limited online buying.

And by security I mean ID and secure gun licence.
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Creatant is not online. Creatant
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04 Aug 2012 12:48 AM
"Because no matter how hard you try there are always going to be criminals sneaking in higher powerful guns."

The harder you try, the less that will be smuggled in. That's why there was a huge decrease in homicide rates. The people who were 90% responsible for all homicides did not have access to as many guns as easily.
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SSstar is not online. SSstar
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04 Aug 2012 12:50 AM
It STILL doesn't matter.
If someone plans on killing someone they are going to find a way to get the tools to kill.
Just like how someone trying to create something will try to find a way to get the tools they need to create something.
Sure it makes it harder but at the end of the day you can NEVER. EVER. Completely stop it.
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Creatant is not online. Creatant
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04 Aug 2012 12:53 AM
"And by security I mean ID and secure gun licence."

Jamaica had a SUPER secure gun license policy. We also had the highest homicide rate in the world, committed mostly, if not all, by illegally smuggled guns between gangs that are constantly fighting each other.
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04 Aug 2012 12:55 AM
"Sure it makes it harder but at the end of the day you can NEVER. EVER. Completely stop it."

If I haven't made this clear, I will now. I NEVER. EVER. Said that it would completely stop. I said that it has decreased (DECREASED) ever since the illegal smuggling has been reduced.
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04 Aug 2012 12:55 AM
@Creat,
My point.
No matter how hard you make your laws,
You will still have people getting these weapons.
And if you think about it even if you do manage to make it EXTREMELY hard to get illegal guns those people are the people who most likely have the brains, power, and money to do so.
Imagine trying to fight someone who has the money, power, and brains to get the guns and orginize the shooting.
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Twigs180 is not online. Twigs180
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04 Aug 2012 12:57 AM
Guys, you are all showing your ignorance by stating firearms should be semi-automatic only. That only encouranges better marksmen ship. Most criminals with access to rapid fire weapons don't know how to handle them, and that greatly reduces accuracy.
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SouthparkFTW is not online. SouthparkFTW
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04 Aug 2012 01:00 AM
You guys aren't getting it gun control laws are supposed to decrease the deaths due to fire arms and try to make the United States a safer place.
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Creatant is not online. Creatant
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04 Aug 2012 01:00 AM
The point is that there will be less. In fact, there has been less. It happened. Jamaica has seen a huge decrease in gun-crime ever since. Your point is invalid in this case.

It's common knowledge that murder will still happen, but it HAS been happening at a much lower rate since the watch on gun smuggling.
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SSstar is not online. SSstar
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04 Aug 2012 01:00 AM
@Twigs,
Do you think a criminal has time to really even aim when they are thinking about how they could get caught.
The one theater shooting happened and the man who was doing it managed to kill 12 and hit about 58 others just by spraying an automatic weapon.
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Twigs180 is not online. Twigs180
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04 Aug 2012 01:13 AM
It wasn't automatic. It was a semi-automatic AR15, and he could of killed a lot more people with his glock or his shotgun.
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SouthparkFTW is not online. SouthparkFTW
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04 Aug 2012 01:18 AM
You do realize he had an assualt rifle with 100 ROUND DRUM MAGAZINE the U.S. Army almost never uses that!
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Twigs180 is not online. Twigs180
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04 Aug 2012 01:56 AM
DID YOU REALIZE HE HAD A SEMI-AUTOMATIC RIFLE? DID YOU REALIZE THAT 100 DRUM MAGAZINE IS NOTORIOUS FOR JAMMING, WHICH, OHOHOHO! IT DID IN THE THEATRE! HE ONLY GOT 30 SHOTS OFF! LOLOLOLOLOL! What a failure. Most of his shots come from his shotgun and pistol! The police found 3 emptied magazines of 15 round Glocks, ergo, he got off 45 shots with the glock.
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04 Aug 2012 01:59 AM
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SSstar is not online. SSstar
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04 Aug 2012 02:18 AM
@Twigs,
Yes I do know that, I already knew that he used drum mags and that they jam. But it still doesn't do anything to the fact that he fired the guns he had long enough to kill 12 and injury 58.
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04 Aug 2012 02:25 AM
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Twigs180 is not online. Twigs180
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04 Aug 2012 02:26 AM
From his Glock and shotgun.

I promise you when the police reports come out, we are going to see more wounds from the Glock and Remington.
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