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Re: Can we please reform??

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aboy5643 is not online. aboy5643
Joined: 08 Oct 2010
Total Posts: 5458
01 Aug 2012 11:08 PM
This place has really lost its appeal to me, not because I've grown out of it, but because there is a severe lacking of intelligent discussion here. Why have we grown out of the times where this was truly a clubhouse filled with people who understood Lua and could then discuss things that matter to budding programmers? Now, I see half a page or more of admin/help/requests/etc., another 25% going into "regular" diary entries (most of which **don't even know Lua**, this is my biggest WTF moment with this subforum) and a little bit going into random C#,C++,C, Java, ASM, h4xy questions that would be better answered on Stack Overflow.

So why can't we regain control of this subforum?? I'm talking to the original regulars, the ones that have proven they can script, and can use Lua better than 99% of people making games on Roblox right now. We used to have an unspoken way of determining who was allowed to post slightly off topic by becoming what we have come to know as "the regulars". This can include some diary entries, some "look what I made; it's neat" threads, and some tech demos like back in the day of Oysi. This means Sorcus can post his demos of whatever he likes, Oysi can show us something new and cool, Arceus can show off a new way of doing something with metatables, etc. So why are we allowing EVERYONE to post WHATEVER they want??? If you are posting about random crap on this subforum and you haven't proven you know anything about what this subforum was made for (namely lua), *you should expect to be kicked out with GOBWEY's*.

Proposed rules (since the unspoken ones have failed us...):
1. Help requests should be redirected to Scripting Helpers or LuaLearners/wiki/SHG/etc. AND be reported.
2. Trolls should be reported, nothing else. No posting on them; that only feeds them and bumps their posts
3. Bump something that promotes useful discussion even if you don't fully grasp it. Someone else may, and they should see it too.
4. Avoid letting off topic threads snowball to multiple pages of flame wars and trolling. We get it; you're a troll. Yes, I'm guilty of this too, hence reform.
5. Contribute in discussions of _advanced Lua and related programming_. This really shouldn't include help for your C++ code. It belongs on a different site. Use better judgement on what's good and what's not.
6. If someone proves to the community that they: A) can use Lua well, and B) speak English properly let them in on the benefits of regularity. Give them a few GOOD threads (like legitimate, discussion promoting threads) and a handful of positive, constructive posts.
7. Don't make trolls feel welcome. If they don't contribute any time, MAKE THEM FEEL THE PAIN FOR SMEARING OUR SUBFORUM WITH FILTH. Make them *prove* they know what they're doing.
8. Allow regulars to show off something they've been working on. They've earned it, and if they're a regular it's usually pretty neat and discussion invoking. Diary entries can be questionable... Judgement is huge here too.
9. Discourage several threads within an hour. Let's condense to one thread; we have a slow subforum anyway and things stay on the front page for over 6 hours.

And above all else:
USE YOUR JUDGEMENT TO DECIDE WHAT PROMOTES DISCUSSION AND FEEDBACK AND WHAT PROMOTES SPAM AND COMPLETE OFF TOPIC.

Yes, I have definitely broken these guidelines but these are what I feel will help bring this subforum back to it's "forum"er glory (ololol) and bring back something intriguing and thought provoking. Maybe it's just summer; we'll see. Hopefully change is coming.

-Aboy, that regular that everyone knows

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aboy5643 is not online. aboy5643
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01 Aug 2012 11:10 PM
Rule 10: No thread shall be bumped more than once per hour. More than that = report. This forum moves VERY slowly. No more than 5 bumps in a row by one user; that shows that no discussion is being generated and it should die.
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oxcool1 is not online. oxcool1
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01 Aug 2012 11:18 PM
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aboy5643 is not online. aboy5643
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01 Aug 2012 11:22 PM
@oxcool1

YESSSSSSSSSSSSS
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Oysi is not online. Oysi
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01 Aug 2012 11:25 PM
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Solotaire is not online. Solotaire
Joined: 30 Jul 2009
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01 Aug 2012 11:47 PM
print("Hello world!")
Is that good enough to prove myself?
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Parthax is not online. Parthax
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01 Aug 2012 11:48 PM
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pwnedu46 is not online. pwnedu46
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02 Aug 2012 12:12 AM
@Solotaire: Not sure if trolling or...
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mew903 is not online. mew903
Joined: 03 Aug 2008
Total Posts: 22071
02 Aug 2012 12:16 AM
@Oysi

I remember back in 2008 when I was a newb, I would always get good help from people in-game. Now, however, people just call me a noob then beg for my hats. This place has gone down hill q_q.
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Solotaire is not online. Solotaire
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02 Aug 2012 12:27 AM
bool = Instance.new("BoolValue", workspace) bool.Name = "BooleanValue" bool.Value = false table = {"Hello," , "World!"} function printMessage() string = "" for i = 1, #table do string = string.. table[i].. " " end return string end bool.Changed:connect(function() rout = coroutine.wrap(printMessage) msg = rout() wait() print(msg) end) bool.Value = true

Is that better? (hint: no)
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superwater2 is not online. superwater2
Joined: 22 Dec 2010
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02 Aug 2012 12:31 AM
Tbh, i am an acc veteran on this game. It disgusts me, when i see little kids like the age of 6, being bullied on servers... I mean WTF grow a pair. Also this hacking and scripting stuff, just make Roblox community down hill... XD also this is my first time i have seen the forums...
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Robloxianof07 is not online. Robloxianof07
Joined: 30 Jul 2012
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02 Aug 2012 12:34 AM
I am as-well a veteran of 4 years and agree the community has gone down. Oh well.... Nothing we can really do.
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superwater2 is not online. superwater2
Joined: 22 Dec 2010
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02 Aug 2012 12:35 AM
Sorry bro but, it says you joined 2 days ago...
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FPGA is not online. FPGA
Joined: 05 May 2012
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02 Aug 2012 12:45 AM
This is what MDB tried to make Scripters like for a while and it sucked.
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Robloxianof07 is not online. Robloxianof07
Joined: 30 Jul 2012
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02 Aug 2012 12:48 AM
Thats why im moving onto another block game. You could say it has a nice community A block community *wink wink*
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terminator213 is not online. terminator213
Joined: 22 May 2009
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02 Aug 2012 12:57 AM
This is why I quit.
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TheMyrco is not online. TheMyrco
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02 Aug 2012 02:32 AM
*tracks*
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stravant is not online. stravant
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Total Posts: 2893
02 Aug 2012 02:37 AM
Much easier solution:
Devs fix my mod powers so I can lock / move / delete stuff again.
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Robloxianof07 is not online. Robloxianof07
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02 Aug 2012 02:38 AM
xSTRAVx is powerless! I much teach how to be a true SAIYAN WARRIOR >:3
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TheMyrco is not online. TheMyrco
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02 Aug 2012 02:42 AM
Oooh remember the Arceus licking Emess stuff?
Good timez.

And I agree that I'm obsessed with languages @-@
And ox, gooby, stop ranting please <3
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oxcool1 is not online. oxcool1
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02 Aug 2012 02:52 AM
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LPGhatguy is not online. LPGhatguy
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Joined: 27 Jun 2008
Total Posts: 4725
02 Aug 2012 03:13 AM
I rarely ever post here anymore, and I don't do anything enough to interact with the community at all.

Also, stravant:
"Vegeta, what's his power level?!"
"IT'S... 0..."
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triston220 is not online. triston220
Joined: 08 Mar 2010
Total Posts: 1861
02 Aug 2012 05:12 AM
"Also this hacking and scripting stuff, just make Roblox community down hill".

I say the devs stop any scripts from running running for this guy's Roblox Player.
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su8 is not online. su8
Joined: 06 Mar 2009
Total Posts: 6334
02 Aug 2012 05:18 AM
me agree but c is so cool so u must talk about it 24/7
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ArceusInator is not online. ArceusInator
Joined: 10 Oct 2009
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02 Aug 2012 06:42 AM
"Oooh remember the Arceus licking Emess"

Yes.
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