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I'm at a loss on what to do with JC.

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robb12 is not online. robb12
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28 Jul 2012 08:58 AM
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Lissitski is not online. Lissitski
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28 Jul 2012 08:58 AM
I would seriously take charge, and exile Psp, as you have C&G's support.

Sure, it would be violating your "oath" and "honour", but frankly, Psp is a bit insane. The vid of Dudie killing himself with a katana was insane.

And "honour." There is no "honour" anymore. All the "honour" has gone from C&G.

With all due respect, some of the things Psp does, has no "honour." When people raid Fort Fang, there is no "honour" in the way the JC HRs and soldiers react.

When Psp wants loads of members regardless of their skill, there is no "honour." That would just make it a VIP clan.

Take JC. Command it. C&G supports you on this. Almost every great dictator/leader started out this way.

Do it. Of course, if Psp is your best friend or something, then forget it. But if you're just an obedient HR, take JC.

You have C&G's support.
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calebbishop is not online. calebbishop
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28 Jul 2012 09:00 AM
That is very noble of you.
But no.
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boloizcool is not online. boloizcool
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28 Jul 2012 09:00 AM
@liss

Agreed 100%
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calebbishop is not online. calebbishop
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28 Jul 2012 09:02 AM
Agreed.
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ezradharma is not online. ezradharma
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28 Jul 2012 09:02 AM
I have a feeling people want to be come allies, or even try to steal John's Cobras, some how.
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chickenlord is not online. chickenlord
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28 Jul 2012 09:02 AM
Epic, Do what's right for the people. Not the tyrant. Exile john, Rebuild JC. The people are not property.
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robb12 is not online. robb12
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calebbishop is not online. calebbishop
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28 Jul 2012 09:03 AM
Some may want to be allies. Some may want entertainment.
The motive does not matter, the reasoning does.
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Gargix is not online. Gargix
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28 Jul 2012 09:04 AM
JC is dying, you can revive it, Dont listen to Pspjohn1, hes a terrible leader...
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Skaup is not online. Skaup
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28 Jul 2012 09:04 AM
This whole thread is embarrasing to read: Chickenlord trying to pursuade Epicrules to basically sieze control of JC and all that.

This thread brought out the worst in the C&G.


Vermin are awesome

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Lissitski is not online. Lissitski
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28 Jul 2012 09:05 AM
Yet Skaup clearly doesn't have enough experience in leadership to know why we want Epic to control JC instead of Psp.
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chickenlord is not online. chickenlord
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28 Jul 2012 09:05 AM
>Chickenlord trying to pursuade Epicrules to basically sieze control of JC and all that.


Did you come up with that yourself? I believe it's obvious that's what I'm trying to do. The people matter more then john does.
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calebbishop is not online. calebbishop
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28 Jul 2012 09:07 AM
This is the best of C&G! Intelligent coversation about clan related topics.
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Epicrules is not online. Epicrules
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28 Jul 2012 09:08 AM
By the way... to those who say "Your name isn't John"... My name is the Scottish form of the name "John".
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calebbishop is not online. calebbishop
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28 Jul 2012 09:08 AM
That works out well.
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Lissitski is not online. Lissitski
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28 Jul 2012 09:09 AM
@Epic Exactly, so it's ok if you take JC.

Also, you can make the people so much more than just a possession. They can no longer be "HIS" Cobras. They are each other's Cobras!
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ancientblue is not online. ancientblue
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28 Jul 2012 09:15 AM
Do the simple thing ; talk to john ; make him listen to you, convince him your ideas will bring JC into a golden ERA.

Doing that isn't breaking your oath or anything worthy of guilt. If he doesn't listen to you then he surly doesn't deserve JC back, if he can't even listen to a friend and the holder of his super clan who has probably turned down god knows how many offers, surly thats worth some freedom todo stuff to change JC. At least get him to let you reform the generals.

Hold a meeting see he comes, hold several to test timezones, we're all on summer vacation no excuse 'i have school'
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Azeekee1 is not online. Azeekee1
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28 Jul 2012 09:27 AM
Epic, please do understand. Psp has failed as leader. If he did suceed people would not hate JC, or call them Garden Snake's, or Corn Snake's. Do what is right. Many hate John for doing nothing. His video's earn him nothing but loss of respect and a bit more hatred. John's Cobras is basically a empire to worship him. Lead JC like you have never had.
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look01 is not online. look01
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28 Jul 2012 09:27 AM
Give it to squid

[~-~Vaktovia's Finest~-~]
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FlamePrince is not online. FlamePrince
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28 Jul 2012 09:44 AM
General Order 38; Interstellar Law and Treaties. (For the Trekkies on C&G)

> In the event of the death, absence, or incapacitation of the
commanding officer of record, command of a ship or installation falls to the next highest-ranking crewmember, regardless of position in the command structure. When two officers in the line of succession are of comparable rank, command first falls upon the officer with command experience; barring that requirement, command will fall upon the officer with seniority.
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mick60 is not online. mick60
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28 Jul 2012 09:57 AM
Epic, the choice is yours. Do what YOU think is the best for JC.

Not what C&G thinks, not what John thinks, not what hammer thinks, not what ANYONE ELSE thinks.

What YOU think is best.


dologan pls
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1AmericanPatriot is not online. 1AmericanPatriot
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28 Jul 2012 10:07 AM
Either way.
Someone's getting exiled.
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mick60 is not online. mick60
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28 Jul 2012 10:11 AM
I'd have to agree with American on that one.


dologan pls
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nightstalk95 is not online. nightstalk95
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28 Jul 2012 10:15 AM
C&G is here to corrupt your mind, hold JC for PSP. JC can only thrive on it's true leader, PSP.
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