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Re: 30% Market Fee

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122334shadow is not online. 122334shadow
Joined: 01 Nov 2008
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23 Jul 2012 08:58 PM
Ok, this has got to stop. It's a five percent increase. And most of you guys complaining arent even giving any reasons! Just saying "It's stupid! Lower it!"

Let me shine some light on this little problem.
And before you start hunting more, no, their's no suggestion, sue me.

Let's say you have a shirt for 100 robux. God forbid anyone actually buys something that expensive, but just listen... it's mainly just so I can do math easier.

Let's assume you get at least one buyer a day.

Everyday with 75% profit: 75 Robux
Everyday with 70% profit: 70 Robux
Only a 5 robux difference.
Now, let's take it a step further.

Every 30 days with 75% profit: 2250 Robux
Every 30 days with 70% profit: 2100 Robux
Only a 150 robux difference.
Now, even further.

A year with 75% profit: 27375 Robux
A year with 70% profit: 25550 Robux
Only a 1825 Robux difference.
And If I'm correct, 25550 is roughly only a 7% decrease from the original.

Correct me on any math mistakes I might have made... I like to think since I practice programming I'm at least ok at math.. but yeah.

With only a yearly difference of only roughly 7%, may depend on what your price is, I think you'll live.

And this also reminds me of when big companies go from 10 billion dollars, to 9 billion dollars, and they freak out. Just saying.

Rage, agree, or ignore. Your choice.
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coldbloodedkiller9 is not online. coldbloodedkiller9
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23 Jul 2012 09:00 PM
***SUGGESTION DETECTED***

you're suggesting that people stop crying about a 5% increase in the virtual taxes, making sure they don't make as much virtual money, to buy virtual stuff.



~life is like a game, with no reset button~
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122334shadow is not online. 122334shadow
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23 Jul 2012 09:01 PM
All I know is, my calculator has a little cold from all that math.
Someone needs a little nap time.
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122334shadow is not online. 122334shadow
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23 Jul 2012 09:02 PM
All I ask, is that next time your worried about losing money, just do a little math before you call to arms every 9 year old in sight.

Dear god, I think I hear the cavalry outside.
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Happycamp is not online. Happycamp
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23 Jul 2012 09:03 PM
Hey i agree with you i hate it when this kind of stuff happens
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MikkelDude is not online. MikkelDude
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23 Jul 2012 09:05 PM
Suggestions on this forum are meant to be towards ROBLOX, not directly the users.

=-=-=-=

Advances will contribute to the nostalgia and complaining nature of others.
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122334shadow is not online. 122334shadow
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23 Jul 2012 09:07 PM
I understand. I just noticed no one did anything to support their claims, and both sides were just bickering with things like "This is stupid! lower it!" and "It's just five percent! Calm down!"

Just wanted everyone to realize what little impact it really makes. Even if in the process all it really will do is cause more raging.
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XxExaviorXx is not online. XxExaviorXx
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23 Jul 2012 09:09 PM
After I read this, I ate a bag of Potato Chips and started laughing. Get real, EVEN IF people start warming up to this the chaos wont stop anytime sooner.
Robloxians = Play Games/React To Economical Changes


But dont worry. Just wait a few days and they'll get over it.
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acebatonfan is not online. acebatonfan
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23 Jul 2012 09:11 PM
Your math is wrong. For selling T-shirts, it's a 10% market fee.

You make 90 R$ if someone buys your 100 R$ t-shirt.
You make 70$ now if someone buys your 100 R$ t-shirt.
30 R$ difference now.

Now, time for some bigger math.
With the current marketplace fee, if one person each day buys the same t-shirt, I will make 2700 R$ in 30 days.
With the 30% fee, I'll make 2100 R$ with the same credentials.
600 R$ is lost because of it

In 365 days...
I'll make 32,850 R$ with 10% marketplace fee.
I'll make 25,550 R$ with the 30% marketplace fee.
7,300 R$ lost because of it.

See the difference? When us BC'ers receive less money than before, we get angry. When we get angry, we stop buying BC (as what might happen if they go through with this update. I might not renew when my BC expires on the 9th). When we stop buying BC, bye-bye ROBLOX.
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122334shadow is not online. 122334shadow
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23 Jul 2012 09:11 PM
I know. Really I just wanted to see if I could pull off the math, and maybe change one person's opinion, and then catch the nearby forum forest on fire.

... I'm not sure if I did the math part correctly though.
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unbloxable is not online. unbloxable
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23 Jul 2012 09:12 PM
BUT IF YOUR ONE OF THE PEOPLE WHO SELL LIMITEDS 20K ROBUX YOU ONLY GET A LITTLE BIT OF IT!
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acebatonfan is not online. acebatonfan
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23 Jul 2012 09:13 PM
@Shadow

So, you're main point about it only being a minor difference is invalid.... unless you consider a 7,000 R$ loss to be minor.
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XxExaviorXx is not online. XxExaviorXx
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23 Jul 2012 09:16 PM
Ace... Your post just made me not buy BC for a while...
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122334shadow is not online. 122334shadow
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23 Jul 2012 09:19 PM
@acebatonfan

Ah, thank you. I forgot about the t-shirts.
But, in my own opinion, while you do lose 7000 robux, you still have 25,550. Which brings me back to the example with the companies, and slight decrease, and a panic. It might just be because I try to look towards the bright side of things, and in the situation you guys are in, I would say "Well, I still have a whole lot of money, I'm content.".

Also, just because of a 10 to 30% tax increase, people arent going to stop buying BC. It'll just be a small inconvenience we'll all get used to. To be honest, three days from now we'll all forget this all happened, and it will just be regular old roblox.
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XxExaviorXx is not online. XxExaviorXx
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23 Jul 2012 09:22 PM
My First Post: "But dont worry. Just wait a few days and they'll get over it."

Your Latest Post: "To be honest, three days from now we'll all forget this all happened, and it will just be regular old roblox.

Ring a bell?
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acebatonfan is not online. acebatonfan
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23 Jul 2012 09:22 PM
@Xx.

I am feeling the same way. As paying members, I feel ROBLOX should be bending over backwards to accommodate us. Not punishing us by raising something that has been set in stone for over four years and creating stupid updates that have been declined by its players.

As a clothing maker, this will decrease my profits by at least 20%, if not more (especially if I increase the price of my outfits to offset the marketplace fee). In one year, it'll cause me to lose at least 17K tickets
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122334shadow is not online. 122334shadow
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23 Jul 2012 09:25 PM
@Exavior

I'm sorry my post was similar to yours :c I'll be sure to contact a moderator and have it removed from existence immediately.
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PieGuy305 is not online. PieGuy305
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23 Jul 2012 09:26 PM
No, this is UNIVERSAL, so 10% goes to 30%!!! That is 20%, MATHEMATICIAN GENIUS...
I hate how noobs cannot see this terrible loss...
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122334shadow is not online. 122334shadow
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23 Jul 2012 09:27 PM
As stated before, I forgot about the T-Shirt Sales Fee.

I still think you'll be fine.
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zol366 is not online. zol366
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23 Jul 2012 09:28 PM
What's the point in a Market Fee increase anyway? It's not like ROBLOX needs robux and tix!
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122334shadow is not online. 122334shadow
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23 Jul 2012 09:30 PM
I dont know, I think it's to teach kids something about being and entrepreneur?
Maybe?
I guess?

I've always wondered that myself.
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acebatonfan is not online. acebatonfan
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23 Jul 2012 09:31 PM
@Shadow


To continue with part two of why this is absolutely awful, I am going to move on with the selling of limiteds.

Yes, it's a five percent increase. But, let's say User1 bought a fedora for 10,000 R$.

User1 is fairly smart and decides to make a profit by selling this hat to me. He wants to make a 1,000R$ profit.

To make this profit with the 25% marketplace fee, he will have to sell the hat for 13,750 R$.

But, with this 30% proposed fee, he will have to sell the hat for 14,300 R$. That is a 550R$ difference.


Now, let's say I want to buy this hat. With the 20% loss of profits from this update, I have less money to spend. But, since User1 decided to make a profit, he increased the price to accommodate the fee increase.

Theoretically, I will be getting less with what little money I have because of the smart ROBLOXians trying to keep themselves afloat. When this happens, I will get upset at the game and decide that it is not worth my time to purchase BC.
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122334shadow is not online. 122334shadow
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23 Jul 2012 09:37 PM
In theory though, this update could raise the number of BC upgrading to TBC.

Of course, if the roblox community were really serious about this 30% increase, the community could try boycotting BC.

Something to mull over perhaps.
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ROBLOXBloxxerDJL is not online. ROBLOXBloxxerDJL
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23 Jul 2012 10:19 PM
@shadow
When someone sells something and there's this 30% market fee, the seller would get less.
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T3XT is not online. T3XT
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23 Jul 2012 10:21 PM
It also applies to the 10% fee on clothing.

That's a third of the profit we've gotten for years.
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