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Re: [Revised] Group Vault, Septs and Alliances.

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jacob726 is not online. jacob726
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21 Jul 2012 08:45 PM
Alright. As proof that I am the >Original< maker of these; here comes a link to the original thread. All edits in this will have been stated in that thread.
Link: http://www.roblox.com/Forum/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=65426940
I'd appreciate it if a mod wouldn't mind locking that one for me, as well.
Revised idea:

1: Group Vault: The group vault is just like it sounds, a "Vault" inwhich members of a group may deposit and withdraw Tix/R$. A member, or non member, can donate any amount of their current Tix and R$, and would only be able to withdraw either 1% of the current vault funds, or 100R$ (or) 1,000 Tix, every 4 days; whichever is less. The group vault could serve many purposes. Firstly; remember the Group Place feature that came before Personal Servers? Well, "Buying" or "Renting" one of those, inwhich it would automatically deduct 50R$ AND 100Tix, per week from the group vault. When the vault "Runs dry" the place is autmatically made inactive, until the group vault has the funds to support it again, and the leader of the group would also have to confirm it's re-activation. The vault would also exist as a way to purchase items in bulk for members of the group. The cost of it would come from the group vault if it had the funds, if it did not have the funds, then the purchase would be unable to be completed. It can be shown in the equation P=MI, where "P" is the total price from the vault, "M" is the members who do not already own the item, and "I" is the items initial cost per unit. Limited and Limited(U) Items would not be able to be purchased with this feature, nor would items no-longer on sale. (For example, the 2008 Visor, would not be able to be bought, neither would things like the firework gear(s) of 2011 and/or earlier.)

[Edits/Explanations] >all discussed in original page,
1: Nonmembers can not withdraw, but only deposit.
2: Purchasing of items through the vault is not affected by the withdraw limiter.
3: Personal Server payment goes to the group vault, rather than the owners ticket count.
4: Ability to set certain ranks to be able to withdraw.
5: Weekly interest of 1% on the Vault.
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2: Sept Groups: The vault could also be used to create "Sept Groups".
Sept groups would cost as much as a regular group.
They would have the same shout as the main group (Similar to copy and pasting the shout and posting it, but with some MAJOR time saving with this new website.) In addition, "Sept Groups" have no Allies, Personal Servers, or Enemies. They only have "Members", but have more rank spaces. This would show up on the main group's wall under a tab called "Septs" or "Branches" Or some other (non-)creative word you feel like coming up with. It could be better used with larger groups, who commonly have Cadet Programs and Academies.
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3: Alliances: An alliance would be a way inwhich a group can join one, and only one alliance at a time. Alliances would not show up as a group on a members profile, but would instead have it's name under the group logo in the form of a link. They would cost 75R$ per member group to form, and then 50R$ to join after it is formed. The R$ would be deducted from the group vault, not from the owners personal funds, and the Alliance would have to have ATLEAST 5 member groups pooling their money to be created. The money would not be lost, but instead would be placed inside of the Alliance Vault, basically as a "Starting fund" of atleast 375R$. The Alliance Vault would also have a deposite and withdraw feature, the currency would not go to or from the group leaders personal funds, but into, or out of, the group's vault. The possible withdraw is the same as with Group Vaults, however it has a 1 week period of waiting, instead of just 1 day before you can draw more funds. This is to avoid the collapse of the Alliance's economy/monetary system. This could help teach group leaders about how to save and spend money properly, because they may be faced with the downfall of their group if they run their group, or alliance, into the ground. Better learn fast, fellow leaders, we don't want a revolt. >.>
Alliances would have an Allies and Enemies tab, and a Member Group bar, similar to the members of a regular group, but it would list group names, and would only have 2 categories. "Founding Groups" and "Annexed Groups".
Founding Groups would have a 2% withdraw limit, instead of the 1% faced by Annexed groups. The alliance would also have a Group wall and Shout. They would only be able to be accessed by the 2 highest ranks in a member group. (255 and 254, I believe.) The wall would only be viewable by the 2 highest ranks, but the Alliance Shout would be sent to all the members of all the member groups. (So useful for some very important shouts for multiple groups, is it not?) The alliance vault would also be able to purchase items in bulk, like the group vault. It would work in the same P=MI as well.
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TL:DR : Group Banks, Group branches, and Group Alliances. Want to know more? Actually start to read it.
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Supporters on last post: 106
Non-supporters: 7
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Mod(s) who replied to the original; and their reply:
Mod: ReeseMcBlox
Reply: I read this idea. Some of the pieces are already things the devs have talked about, but I don't know if they will be implemented. Cool ideas though.

Disclaimer: I am reading the ideas and suggestions. I can't tell you if it will become a real feature/change or not.
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jacob726 is not online. jacob726
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21 Jul 2012 09:33 PM
Ironic that I had as many views as the mod post on the original.
Anyways; Bump.

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21 Jul 2012 09:38 PM
I usually read all of the post, but that literally made my eyes hurt. From what I read it sounds good, except it might be better if only members with permissions for the bank could use it.
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21 Jul 2012 09:41 PM
The ability to set only certain members to sue it was added in the [Edit ...] section.

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21 Jul 2012 09:42 PM
Oh sorry, must have skipped over it.
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21 Jul 2012 09:43 PM
#4 on the edits.
I went and did a quick check to make sure I really did add it.

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21 Jul 2012 10:37 PM
Bump, because my posts seem to get pushed down by people making things like "Pay to play" or selling models or something.

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22 Jul 2012 12:30 AM
Bump #3.
I feel like keeping tabs on how many bumps I do now.

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22 Jul 2012 02:34 AM
Bump#4

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22 Jul 2012 05:25 AM
Bump #5.

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22 Jul 2012 02:40 PM
Bump #6

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22 Jul 2012 03:21 PM
Bump #7.

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22 Jul 2012 03:41 PM
Bump #8. Bump-to-save.

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22 Jul 2012 04:20 PM
Raig.
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22 Jul 2012 04:26 PM
> Sept

Sect?

Anyway, support. I can't wait for the new group updates.

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22 Jul 2012 04:29 PM
No, not Sect; Sept.
It's an English word for a small part of a Family.
I used that word just due to the way I consider my group, Lol.
Thanks for the support.
Also, the "Group Model selling" makes me think they are going to implement this.
I mean, where else where the money get stored?

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22 Jul 2012 04:32 PM
Sept: "A clan, originally one in Ireland"

Well I was part Irish to begin with anyway.

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22 Jul 2012 04:35 PM
Lol.
Same.
Anyways; that is where it is primarily used. But it is also used it Scotland.
As an example; my last name (McNew) is a "Sept" of the Scottish MacGregor.
What happened, is a MacGregor immigrated to the U.S. but created a false last name to avoid prosecution. >.>
Lol.
I feel so special knowing that, lmfao.

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22 Jul 2012 04:56 PM
Relating to that story, I once went to Scotland and they had this booth a some complex in the middle of a highway that would explain the origins of your name. They'd said "Jordan" originated form: blah blah blah, and this is your family tree: blah blah blah. And the whole thing was funny, because my dad chose that last name because it was a common, easy to pronounce English name when he immigrated. There is no "history" behind it c:

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22 Jul 2012 04:59 PM
Lol.
I still hold pride in my last name simply because.. well.. I like it.
Strange thing is, if you try to say my initials as one word, it sounds like German.
(JRMN, N because my last name has 2 capitals.) Lol.
But, yeah.
I like my last name, but I like the blood I carry in my veins just as much.

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22 Jul 2012 05:02 PM
Did I start a [Revised] trend? Lol.

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22 Jul 2012 05:04 PM
I think you did. I'd probably start using it too, if it wasn't for I already just put "Cobalt's rants, nth edition" at the top of my rants anyway.

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22 Jul 2012 05:06 PM
Lol
Hooray for starting trends!

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22 Jul 2012 05:07 PM
That was the most incoherent sentence I've posted in a while. I need more sleep.

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22 Jul 2012 05:08 PM
Lol.

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