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Re: Krinkut New Age Alliance - To be, or not to be?

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Undefiant is not online. Undefiant
Joined: 31 Oct 2010
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21 Jul 2012 10:10 PM
(For KA members only. If you're not a KA member, ignore this post.)

KA is now going to receive a reformation, but before this goes ahead, a vote must be decided on something.



During a conversation with WiseBubbaGump, we realized that KA can't keep going anymore as it is.

If we keep trying to set up divisions, they will merely fail and KA will stay how it is.

But if we turn the Main Group into the military itself, then the group will properly be active and doing things will be A LOT easier & quicker.

The problem with this, however, is KA itself cannot exist with just one division, or by itself in this manner, so the only solution (That will work) is to transfer to another group, the Vita Convoy.

I haven't forgotten my promise though, and I do intend to try keep it if the transfer doesn't go ahead.

But if the transfer does go ahead, then I can get the group set up in literally hours, prior to my standard weeks.

But before anything, you're required to vote.


(Vote ends on the July 25th.)


(In case some of you don't understand properly, read the below.)

[Stay in KA]
[Adv] - Continuation of the group we know. (Can't think of anything else important.)
[Disadv] - Continuation of going downhill/minimal progress/being a mess/etc.

[Move to Vita Convoy]
[Adv] - Quick and easy set up/continuation of normal KA activities but under a different name/massive progress to be made.
[Disadv] - The goodbye of KA. (I might have missed some things, but it was 4:10AM when I typed this.)

In terms of my promise, however, it's arguable either side. Vita Convoy is a KA group, but it's not the KA group.
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snoipliot is not online. snoipliot
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21 Jul 2012 10:16 PM
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Venturo is not online. Venturo
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21 Jul 2012 10:16 PM
krinkle cut fries
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Undefiant is not online. Undefiant
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21 Jul 2012 10:20 PM
@Snoi, KA doesn't have many real allies, so it's easy to just send them an ally request again and still uphold treaties, etc.

@Ven, aren't you from the Octopus Sand Empire?
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Venturo is not online. Venturo
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21 Jul 2012 10:57 PM
no

im from the future
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WII3579 is not online. WII3579
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21 Jul 2012 10:59 PM
Disagree. The Council already began a division regulation act a bit back, to address the problem with divisions. As for inactivity, all we need is more HRs doing something. Most HRs don't do anything. Currently I'm the only one actually doing anything along with some help from commanderCody and wisebubbagump.
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Tlalas is not online. Tlalas
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21 Jul 2012 11:03 PM
I vote stay in KA, but I could see having the possibility of 2 main groups. (One for peace, diplomatic, ect) and one for military. I suggest setting it up like the Minbari. (From Babylon 5)
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WII3579 is not online. WII3579
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21 Jul 2012 11:05 PM
@Tla, that's what walden , Cody, and I are developing for GA. We can adapt it to KA as well.
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commanderCody246 is not online. commanderCody246
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21 Jul 2012 11:07 PM
Stay in KA, don't change. We're trying to get more active if only more people would pitch in. Only like 5-6 people come to training every time we host one.
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syfyguy64 is not online. syfyguy64
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21 Jul 2012 11:25 PM
If we got rid of divisions, and changed the theme from "Fight if assaulted" to "Fight those who oppose peace" and we could get our group known.

We are the Borg. Surrender your ships to us.
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syfyguy64 is not online. syfyguy64
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21 Jul 2012 11:28 PM
Why not do it Irellus Empire style? We have the starfleet and military put in main and the fleet and military divisions are only for certain areas and news about refits/new craft. Also, we use lots and lots of advertising, and we don't keep our promo-game private, Undefiant...

We are the Borg. Surrender your ships to us.
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syfyguy64 is not online. syfyguy64
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21 Jul 2012 11:32 PM
Also, it's easier to rank up in IE, at least to a certain height, which is rear admiral. Anything above is based on personnel favor. Trust me, I'm a captain in IE. But a LRM in KA. Maybe make it training points and date you joined. IE is a group made 3-4 months ago, and has 450+ and counting. KA, eh, what? Mid 2011?

We are the Borg. Surrender your ships to us.
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ArchonKnight is not online. ArchonKnight
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22 Jul 2012 02:48 AM
Staying in KNAA. This is the Krinkut New Age Alliance. Not some mistake you can backpedal from. Try actually having the bases working, getting more HRs active, etc. I'd be doing more if I had the ability, however Wii is the only one with the ability and the will to actually work with people here. (This is meaning ALL HRs. HINT HINT!)

Also, Syfy has a point. If you're active and are good at your job it's very easy to rank up in IE. It's also efficiently done so that most of military and fleet needs are in the main group. If you're specializing in military or fleet then you can join the division and get info that you may find useful but isn't needed for your job.

Main Point: I joined the Krinkut New Age Alliance, not Vita la Convoy (joke)
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quicktyplosion is not online. quicktyplosion
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22 Jul 2012 05:58 AM
@wii

WHAT....IS...GA!?!?!?

i vote stay


Because vita convoy or whatever it isnt doesn't sound like "Krinkut New Age Alliance" enough.
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dommel101 is not online. dommel101
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22 Jul 2012 05:59 AM
new age
hippies united
lets all summon higher dimensional aliens tht will help us
^That's new age.
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funnymagic8ball is not online. funnymagic8ball
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22 Jul 2012 06:02 AM
NOT to be...

Just abandon it while you can :)


BEFORE VAK COMES!!!!11!!
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quicktyplosion is not online. quicktyplosion
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22 Jul 2012 06:58 AM
@funny

squidboi2 will need lots of cookies if he wants to shutdown knaa
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Undefiant is not online. Undefiant
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22 Jul 2012 07:26 AM
Let's get one thing out there.

Everything I've seen here is either Ethics or ideas that have been tried by multiple other groups in our situation, and failed.

I think I also mentioned that I'm gonna remain demoralized?

Meh, not like any of you lot care.
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quicktyplosion is not online. quicktyplosion
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22 Jul 2012 08:53 AM
I have no idea what you just said.
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syfyguy64 is not online. syfyguy64
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22 Jul 2012 09:04 AM
Let's start a war, and make it a little more easier to rank up to certain ranks, and get rid of the LRM, HRM stuff. It wasn't the best idea to start with.Replace it with ranks like Cadet, Ensign, Lieutenant, Commander, and captain. Also krinkut orginia and krinkut elders.

We are the Borg. Surrender your ships to us.
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Undefiant is not online. Undefiant
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22 Jul 2012 09:32 AM
^ Has not read anything I just typed down to start, nor remembers what KA stands on.
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syfyguy64 is not online. syfyguy64
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22 Jul 2012 09:33 AM
I know we don't start wars unless assaulted first, but that's a reason why KA is starting to fall.

We are the Borg. Surrender your ships to us.
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Undefiant is not online. Undefiant
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22 Jul 2012 09:48 AM
Even if a war was going on, people will still be inactive. It's not the wars.
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mrbossyboots1337 is not online. mrbossyboots1337
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22 Jul 2012 09:51 AM
I like KNAA.

I'm not in it, but Vita Convoy will mean all the active members get in so you get a good impression of how many active members you have.
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Undefiant is not online. Undefiant
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22 Jul 2012 10:49 AM
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