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Re: the flag of California says 'California Republic'

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pepper0 is not online. pepper0
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12 Jul 2012 08:57 PM
...Yet they have referendums after every bill they pass...
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The0Arctic0Fox is not online. The0Arctic0Fox
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12 Jul 2012 09:00 PM
The first Republic was an oligarchy ruled by rich individuals, the roman republic.


Word's Meanings change over time, they even revert back to their original meaning, as would happen if some people had their way.
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pepper0 is not online. pepper0
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12 Jul 2012 09:02 PM
Thats not the point.

California is a democracy, which is why it is in such a mess.
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The0Arctic0Fox is not online. The0Arctic0Fox
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12 Jul 2012 09:06 PM
So Then Usa is Democracy too?
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pepper0 is not online. pepper0
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12 Jul 2012 09:39 PM
*faceplant*

The United States doesn't have referendums. The constitution doesn't allow it. Only the states can do referendums.

California is unique, because all it does is referendums which is one of the reasons why its a mess.
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The0Arctic0Fox is not online. The0Arctic0Fox
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12 Jul 2012 09:58 PM
So when the people vote on something the country becomes a mess?


Oligarchic scumbag, you certainly love plutocracy over what the vast majority of what people want.
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12 Jul 2012 10:03 PM
i dont like there
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pepper0 is not online. pepper0
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12 Jul 2012 10:21 PM
Good lord, you have no idea what a republic is.

Why send representatives in the first place?
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12 Jul 2012 10:26 PM
Oligarchic scumbag, you certainly love plutocracy over what the vast majority of what people want.
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The oh so great lennin Russia was more of a Republic then a communist state.
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pepper0 is not online. pepper0
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12 Jul 2012 10:29 PM
They never used the rule of law, they used the rule of an oligarchy.

Oligarchy =/= Republic
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The0Arctic0Fox is not online. The0Arctic0Fox
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12 Jul 2012 10:30 PM
You are using the original meaning of democracy to define it, I can use the original meaning of republic and call it a oligarchy.
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pepper0 is not online. pepper0
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12 Jul 2012 10:38 PM
*faceplant*

You dont understand.

Democracy is specifically, the rule of the people

Republic is specifically, the rule of the law. Not the rule of a group.

The people elected their representatives through the the DEMOCRATIC process as provided by the LAW to the STATE ASSEMBLY of California.

But instead of just passing a bill, they just let the people decide.

There is a catch though to democracy. Less efficiency. There is a catch to Dictatorship, less democracy

Republic creates the BALANCE between leadership, and democracy.
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Raximus is not online. Raximus
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12 Jul 2012 10:49 PM
california should try and rebel so it can get blown up by the us military.
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12 Jul 2012 11:03 PM
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