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Re: TRA has gotten worse

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Centauri07 is not online. Centauri07
Joined: 03 Dec 2010
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28 Jun 2012 12:19 PM
I'm making this only because I've just witnessed another terrible training hosted by a TRA HR. And before I start: Trolls, this does not concern you. This is mostly meant for those who are in TRA. If you have something negative about TRA to say, by all means go ahead. Just make sure you're making a point. TRA needs to see all of it's flaws before it can ever conform. And Nich, before you start bishing at me for this, remember, you weren't following rules before I was. There's this thing, it's called self defense. And as a TRA Elite, I don't take being stabbed in the back with a sword very kindly. Especially when I've done nothing wrong.

Now to begin.

[1.] HRs in TRA have lost maturity and are having 'too much fun'.
Now, I say this because the recent trainings I've gone to have all been about humor. There's been no seriousness at all, and rules have been broken. Don't get me wrong, I'm completely aware this is just a video game and we're all on Roblox to have fun. But, I know there's plenty of you in war groups who like a seriousness when training. It makes it all the more better. Sure, it's a game guys. But hell, it's fun to act like this sometimes. Now, I heard plenty of TRA members, even an MP (igoing2win) say that nicholasjonasfan's trainings have always been humorous. Well, that can be a problem. I don't mind a joke here or there. But when you order trainees to be killed behind their backs when they've done nothing wrong it outrageous. Plenty of HRs in TRA have gotten worse by goofing off and all the sort. I've been in TRA longer than most, but not since it started. So I'll give you veterans that, but I'm still an old timer when it comes to TRA, and it pains me to see this happening.

[2.] Rules are being broken during training, when they should be especially enforced at places and times like that.
So, TRA Colonel nicholasjonasfan decided to line us all up before training started, standard procedure. She didn't order silence, or anything like that. Of course, that should have been expected. But because TRA is full of small children, and only the mature ones are about 25% the ranks captain and up, everyone talked. And I'll admit, I talked as well. Only to tell them to shut up.

Well then we did some discipline training. Nich had the low ranks line up one wall, while IG did a little training. Then she had captains line up on another wall, facing the wall. She told us no talking, and no moving. Nobody did any of that except for maybe one. And he just shifted slighly. So, she had this TRA sergeant, atcontrix, kill us all with a sword to the back. Someone please tell me what's going on? First of all, all of us on the wall outrank him. Second of all, why is he walking around with Nich and not lined up with the rest of us? Well, the majority of us captains on the wall team chatted to him on why he's not doing what's expected of him. Now, that's and understandable reason to be punished. Or be exempt from the training at least. So, Nich orders the massacre of us once more. That, I have no problem with. I was in the wrong again. But when we stopped moving and talking for a good minute or so, she ordered our death once more. That, I did not take. I spun around and killed atcontrix with a sword before he got me.

I got banned.

That doesn't bother me, it's what atcontrix was doing and what Nich was doing that bugs me. Also, how Nich was treating atcontrix. Which brings me to my third point.

[3.] Favoritism in TRA.
Special treatment to certain members because you're their friend is not right, nor fair. They shall work as hard as the rest of us, they shall earn their ranks like the rest of us, and they shall do like the rest of us. What Nich was doing with atcontrix was ridiculous in my mind and I will not stand for it. I'm tired of being treated unfairly by those around me, when I work just as hard as the next captain, or the next sergeant, or the next MP. What Nich was doing was wrong, and should be stopped.

Atcontrix should be demoted or exiled for killing 5 TRA captains without good reason, two or three of them being Elites.

nicholasjonasfan should be reevaluated in her position as a high rank in TRA as she it has seemed she acted in an unorderly fashion with conduct not of an officer like she should. If possible, this reevaluation should have her either on a warning, or have her replaced with a major or MP that is more adequate with the job than her.


Elite Captain Centauri07
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mrbossyboots1337 is not online. mrbossyboots1337
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28 Jun 2012 12:20 PM
*Clap clap*
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Olethrus is not online. Olethrus
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28 Jun 2012 12:24 PM
She was using a style of training that TRA is not familiar with. It's called discipline and it is effective in groups that are use to it. TRA isn't serious enough to use training like that, because then this happens. She had the right idea with using that style of training, however, I don't think it fits right with TRA.
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Starbarrier is not online. Starbarrier
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28 Jun 2012 12:25 PM
Well, if they mature up and stop doing favorites TRA would be fine..
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Centauri07 is not online. Centauri07
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28 Jun 2012 12:26 PM
Exactly what I'm thinking. I'm completely familiar with discipline. However, her methods were a bit... unorthodox if you will. But that isn't my point. What she did for training was fine. What she was doing while during the training was not.
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DragonOfTime is not online. DragonOfTime
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28 Jun 2012 12:28 PM
you should be PREPARED for unorthodox discipline training

that's what proper discipline is, not questioning the actions of your HRs no matter how unorthodox they are
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Olethrus is not online. Olethrus
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28 Jun 2012 12:28 PM
The idea is that when someone comes down the line with a sword and kills everyone, you don't freak out. You shut up and get back in line the way you were. The is the point of the exercise.

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igoing2win is not online. igoing2win
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28 Jun 2012 12:29 PM
Wait... hold it..


I use the same thing.


You and some other people (Captains I might add) were stupid enough to fight back.

The LRs didn't fight back.

Result= ban for you

I'm pretty sure you should know that by now, "Elite".

I wasn't big on the LR's directive of power either.

Do you know why he was there?
He's an NFC HR on his main.
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gerry12 is not online. gerry12
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28 Jun 2012 12:30 PM
Shouldn't a Captain be helping the trainer as opposed to a SGT.
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Evess is not online. Evess
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28 Jun 2012 12:30 PM
I didn't read all of it, but it sounds like a V O I D training.
It's effective for discipline.

❖ V O I D Sentinel. ❖
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88dragon6 is not online. 88dragon6
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28 Jun 2012 12:30 PM
One of the many reasons I refuse to join or support TRA.
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brade4653 is not online. brade4653
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28 Jun 2012 12:31 PM
I completely agree, I have experienced one of her trainings being unfair. I think the member that killed you didn't want to be demoted so he listened to Nich in fear. Nich dhould be reavaluated in my opinion. but how do we get this into play?


~Elite Captain Brade
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igoing2win is not online. igoing2win
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28 Jun 2012 12:32 PM
^

I wonder why everyone refuses to acknowledge your existence.
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igoing2win is not online. igoing2win
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28 Jun 2012 12:32 PM
@Meant for 88dragon.
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Culaure is not online. Culaure
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28 Jun 2012 12:33 PM
This is proof that TRA can not handle simple orders. An order is an order. She kills you to ensure that you can carry out an order. She knows that this will occur. She knows that someone would grow agitated because of the fact that she killed that person. You have to be a complete moron to get angry about one wipe out.

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Olethrus is not online. Olethrus
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28 Jun 2012 12:33 PM
You are all idiots. This is why that sort of training doesn't fit for TRA. You all are too stupid to know what the trainers are trying to do. Instead you freak out because you got three extra wipeouts. its suppose to teach you to not question your HRs. You're suppose to shut up and line back up how you were, not turn around and kill the one who killed everyone.
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DragonOfTime is not online. DragonOfTime
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28 Jun 2012 12:34 PM
'I completely agree, I have experienced one of her trainings being unfair. I think the member that killed you didn't want to be demoted so he listened to Nich in fear. Nich dhould be reavaluated in my opinion. but how do we get this into play?'

THEY'RE

DISCIPLINE

TRAININGS
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igoing2win is not online. igoing2win
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28 Jun 2012 12:35 PM
^

I teach them Directive when I do that.


"y u killin me?"

Because you might learn something.
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commanderfury is not online. commanderfury
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28 Jun 2012 12:40 PM
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zman250 is not online. zman250
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28 Jun 2012 12:41 PM
Too long...



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Centauri07 is not online. Centauri07
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28 Jun 2012 12:41 PM
@Olethrus: I haven't freaked out. I'm slightly concerned for my safety, yes. Nich or IG doing it would have been fine. Because I know I trust them. IG more than Nich. But when a LR does that, that's when I have a problem with the training method.

@Drofti: That's understandable. However she's done more than that. And that was a first for me. Loyalty is good. But I'm not going to have too much left when my superior orders my death left and right like it's no big deal.

@IG: I've never seen you do that. And I've been to a nice amount of your trainings. I only know of myself fighting back, and with reasonable explanation. I'd rather have you or Nich kill me that that sergeant. And the LRs can act too scared to do anything. At least I have a voice in this. I'm glad there's an FB group, that way I can voice my opinions without the fear of disciplinary action for something I didn't even start. Well, glad we both agree on something, but just because he's an NFC HR does not mean he can act as such. That comes down to favoritism again within TRA. And right now the fact that he's more NFC than TRA is also a problem. I don't give a flying fuq if he's an NFC HR or not. He was attending a TRA training as a TRA soldier and should have acted as such. If he wanted sligtly more respect from at least, he should have come as his main with his NFC uniform on, and under the visitors faction. And since he wasn't on his main, which IS an NFC HR, he will be considered and treated as a TRA sergeant.

And to all you VOID people on here right now: THANK YOU! I've been waiting for somebody to say something negatively constructive for TRA. I did join VOID for a short while, yet the inactivity was unbearable. Maybe it was just that day, but I don't mean any offense.
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funnymagic8ball is not online. funnymagic8ball
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28 Jun 2012 12:42 PM
Like anyone read this.




[The Troll of C&G]
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abuca222 is not online. abuca222
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28 Jun 2012 12:45 PM
"[3.] Favoritism in TRA"

I agree, It angers me how people get major in like 10 mins after they join just because they are best friends with the HR's.

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------People should not be afraid of their governments. Governments should be afraid of their people.
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zman250 is not online. zman250
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28 Jun 2012 12:46 PM
I don't like Culuare, or V O I D, oh well.



~zman250
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robotman5114 is not online. robotman5114
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28 Jun 2012 12:46 PM
Actually, trollfaic, many people have read it.
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