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Re: Re-add ingame IP bans

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chaoman12 is not online. chaoman12
Joined: 27 Mar 2009
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13 Jun 2012 08:33 PM
Incase you haven't seen; lately, ROBLOX games are being exploited. A lot. It's not one or two, it's tens, twenties, maybe even fifties. Bans can't stop them. They make a new account, bam, back to hacking the places. There's nothing admins on games can do to stop the hackers, except by banning them and then following, ban, follow, ban. Please, re-add ingame IP bans, or atleast a good alternative.



~Chaoman12, admin of Survival 303 and Survival: Apocalypse
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mongoose764 is not online. mongoose764
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13 Jun 2012 08:42 PM
There is no way to add an in-game IP ban to exploiters, because any in-game disturbance would be considered as a valid excuse to give the person a ban. It's very hard to track the exploiters.
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chaoman12 is not online. chaoman12
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13 Jun 2012 08:46 PM
Ingame IP ban as in, an admin for the game can use. S:A had one, S303 had one, then roblox removed IP bans. They were >EXTREAMLY< helpful
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kingkiller1000 is not online. kingkiller1000
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13 Jun 2012 08:49 PM
No. There are security issues with it that are much more serious that exploiting.
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TNTMC is not online. TNTMC
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13 Jun 2012 08:52 PM
*IP bans people for no reason*


Nope.avi
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Varp is not online. Varp
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13 Jun 2012 08:58 PM
"No. There are security issues with it that are much more serious that exploiting."

Can you elaborate? The logic of "If a player is connecting from an IP that's been banned, deny the connection" really isn't dangerous. I can only see two easily solved problems:

1) A server might need to register itself with Roblox's main servers (e.g. to count how many people are in it). Don't reject connections from Roblox's servers, since they're not malicious and may be necessary to the functioning of the game.
2) Don't give people the IP of the person they're banning.
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SteelCross is not online. SteelCross
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13 Jun 2012 08:58 PM
Varp.
Stop winning threads like a baws.
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kingkiller1000 is not online. kingkiller1000
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13 Jun 2012 09:00 PM
I thought he meant bring the IP and NetworkServer stuff back. I admit, I read the title, but not his post.
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BubbNutt is not online. BubbNutt
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13 Jun 2012 10:54 PM
I agree... all the games I play gets ruined by a guy deleting the base plate or adding about 100 zombies(Which causes lag on my computer, don't know about yours). Thats why I don't play games now that can't be "exploiter proofed"(AKA: Friends only/Private Server)
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Oatesyfats0110 is not online. Oatesyfats0110
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13 Jun 2012 11:48 PM
How about we throw them in lava!
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PHILcutie is not online. PHILcutie
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14 Jun 2012 02:00 AM
I support, becuase its simple enough to stop them.
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Xero76 is not online. Xero76
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14 Jun 2012 02:49 PM
Bring the IP ban back is a good idea. ROBLOX is no fun with exploiters, and as an S:A Moderator, SA used to have like 5 exploiters at each server... Hundreds of exploiters.
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gigabic is not online. gigabic
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14 Jun 2012 04:06 PM
Support.
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gigabic is not online. gigabic
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14 Jun 2012 04:09 PM
Look, do you want 2 admin abuses in one game over 3 months or 200 exploiters in one game over 3 seconds?
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DaneelOlivaw is online. DaneelOlivaw
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14 Jun 2012 04:11 PM
I actually know some things about the method of hacking, and a simple player-removal function isn't going to help except to throw out the admin-script-inserters.

The game-destroyers have access to all item properties in a game, from disabling scripts to uncolliding baseplates.

To stop them, you have to deny them the ability to even load your game or enter a server, something I doubt Roblox devs intend to add.
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chaoman12 is not online. chaoman12
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14 Jun 2012 05:22 PM
@DaneelOlivaw Hence, if used right, could be used to overload their game and shut them down each time their IP joins. Denying them of doing anything.
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medic1 is not online. medic1
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14 Jun 2012 06:29 PM
Lol, the majority of non-supporters haven't experienced hackers on SA like we have...

-Medic1, Ex-moderator on Survival Apocalypse, now just a highest survival ability rank player
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jrbowling is not online. jrbowling
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14 Jun 2012 06:32 PM
I support wow noobs do not support I support this
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medic1 is not online. medic1
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14 Jun 2012 06:33 PM
I support, as long as rules are raised depending on the usage of IP-bans... bans from games for nothing should result in a warning, at least. I know what chao would use it for so this won't anything for him
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Virtualdarks is not online. Virtualdarks
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14 Jun 2012 06:34 PM
I'm rather iffy to support. It's half-half with me.

Why? IP-Bans can easily be passed with a dynamic IP address. It's not going to help if you're really up against an exploiter.

-Virtualdarks
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zenongreat is not online. zenongreat
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14 Jun 2012 06:36 PM
@TNT's 1st post

exactly, people will probably just ban.

Robux Bank win? http://www.roblox.com/Forum/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=65533524
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BrockRocksYourSocks is not online. BrockRocksYourSocks
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14 Jun 2012 06:48 PM
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austint30 is not online. austint30
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14 Jun 2012 07:15 PM
Roblox needs to create some kinda, Anti-Cheat Engine that is built into every plce under game, not workspace, GAME! That way the Cheat engine can't get into workspace. maybe.
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trialtest is not online. trialtest
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14 Jun 2012 08:02 PM
Support.


Survival 303 is no fun with a bajillion exploiters running around making foragable islands or kicking everyone out for no reason. And regular bans don't work, since exploiters can make another account...another...another... yep its just almost impossible to stop ALL the hackers without an IP ban. Unless the exploiters have nothing to do all summer and buy another computer and create a new account and still continue to hack games. With an IP ban, I think the world of s303 would be at peace...or at least at peace most of the time...
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DaneelOlivaw is online. DaneelOlivaw
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14 Jun 2012 08:58 PM
@Virtualdarks

You have to face the fact that most exploiters are simply people following directions on "how 2 get admin on any game" type script-kiddies, not expert hackers. This would still solve a LOT of problems, if an overload is applied which I doubt Roblox much likes.

I can't support it though, even though my support doesn't matter in the slightest. At least I'm not AGAINST it.
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