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Re: CSDPWMCSD VERSION 2.6

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meislolroflpwn is not online. meislolroflpwn
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19 May 2012 11:15 AM

~-------Version 2.6 Changelog-----------------------~
-Removed pros and cons and ending statement.
~-----------------------------------------------------------~




PEOPLE WHO HELPED WITH THIS A GREAT DEAL:
GUARDIANTEMPEST
VARP
00GRAVITY00
MIKEYMAN10ASH
WINTERPWNER



TL;DR
A comment spam filter that searches for patterns in comments, looking for words that are repeated over and over again, and if 10 different IP addresses’ all post the same thing within ten days, then the comments will be deleted and the posters of the comments will be notified, if the comment is a valid comment, then the comment can be sent to the moderators to be reviewed to be put in a permanent white-list. Also, before posting a comment, you will be notified before it is posted that the "Copy and Paste" comments are fake and if you want to continue with the post.
This would also change the comment character limit to 50 characters. Now, the MCSD would systematically take out numbers, letters, and symbols in a comment to see if when they took them out, they would be readable. If the same thing is posted by a player 10 times within 24 Hours, then the comment would be deleted. There is also the option to add the comment to a white list if it is relevant. If the same comment kind of comment is deleted 20 times, that comment will automatically be put on the blacklist. Also gives abuse points






Actual post:

Over the years I have played ROBLOX I have noticed a lot of comment spam involving a player copying and pasting things to a certain number of items, then doing something fancy, like pressing F7 or something of the sort. Even when builderman says that they are fake, people spam away saying that they ARE fake, making even more spam. What I am suggesting is a comment spam filter that searches for different patterns in a comment, so if a comment that is posted says "Copy and paste this to 10 different hats and you get 1000000000 robux" then, in the next few hours, 10 other people post that, then that post will get deleted due to all the words being exactly the same.

Now, as many people have pointed out, someone could easily reword the comment many different ways, adding 0's here and there, taking away letters occasionally, but in the end, all those variations WILL be deleted. Also, when posting a comment, you will be notified that the copy and paste comments are hoaxes and are spam; then it will ask you if you still want to go through with the comment. Now, some of you may be wondering "What about all those relevant comments, won't those get deleted too?" well, as Varp stated earlier, in 1.6, when a post you made gets deleted, you will be notified of it, and if your comment was relevant, the comment will be sent to the moderators for further review, if the comment is passed as relevant, it will be added to a permanent white-list, where comments with that exact wording won't be deleted.

Well, as GuardianTempest stated, there might be an issue with actually getting the anti-spam filter to start working, due to the sheer magnitude of the amount of comments being posted and deleted, that's why there could be another machine devoted entirely to filtering comments, cutting down on the possible lag on the website.

This will be huge for ROBLOX, freeing up a huge amount of space by deleting a bunch of spam and then allowing more features to be added for everyone because of the new space being freed up!

And to help stop the spam, there will be a blacklist! When a comment that is deleted is sent under review for the ROBLOX admins, they will have a choice whether to put it in a white-list, where it can be posted without it getting deleted, or a black-list, where it can't be deleted, when you post a comment that is in the black-list, then you will be notified and the comment will not be posted, the notification will say "Remember, those "Copy and Paste" comments are fake and do not get you any reward!". And to help this black-list do its stuff faster, the comment character limit would be reduced to 50 characters a comment.

The problem I am about to state has come up in my mind a few times, and it has taken me a while to think of a way to stop this. The place advertisers; it's the same character, and 00Gravity00's idea was to make it so that if 10 comments from the same character were made, then it would delete those as well. Though, I realized that the character could very, very easily say the same thing 10 different ways. This is why I thought of the MCSD (Mini Comment Spam Destroyer) Version 1.0! This would search for comments that had things such as "Remove the _'s" and it would keep looking for 5 other comments with "Remove the _'s" by the same character. If the comment is deleted, the character has the option to send it to the ROBLOX developers to petition for a white list. Sadly, while I was typing that, another problem came to mind, that the player could just put a filter on the filter-breaker, therefore confusing the MCSD. This is why I suggest that the filter removes all of one, two, three, etc. letters/numbers/symbols systematically from the comment to see if they filtered something. So if someone did this:

C~o~me~t~o my~plac~e ~an~d ~y~o~u~ge~t ~100000 ticketz
rem~ov~e t~h~e ~'s

Then the MCSD would systematically take out the letters/numbers/symbols until it got this:
Come to my plac e an d y o u ge t 100000 ticketz rem ov e t h e 's. Now you see that the MCSD has un-filtered the comment and will now delete it, seeing as how the outcome would look nearly exactly like the actual message.

Now that we have the entire spam filter over with, there is now the “Abuse points” system to worry about; originally posted by MIKEYMAN10ASH. Basically, it adds a system that gives you “abuse points” for breaking any rules, and when you hit 30 abuse points, you are banned. Spamming will give you a set amount of Abuse Points and if you spam again, then it will give you one more than that, etc., etc. Hopefully, some of you have noticed that, when the filter first starts it's work, lots of things will have not been added to the white-list yet, so people would be getting un-needed abuse points. Well, if you are caught "spamming" when really, it isn't spam at all and the comment is added to the white-list, the appropriate amount of abuse points will be subtracted. Alas, we must keep the moderators in mind, every player in the game will have a complete record of the amount of abuse points that have been added or subtracted from their total amount. Yes, I did say subtracted, that's right. If you go for one month clean, your abuse points will slowly start going down again until you have zero.
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meislolroflpwn is not online. meislolroflpwn
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19 May 2012 06:57 PM
y u no repond!
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jacoba01 is not online. jacoba01
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19 May 2012 07:37 PM
I see an issue:

Something might not be on the black-list simply because a word was misspelled.

Imagine this: "Post this comment on 10 different hats to get 10000000000000 free robux." will be caught but,

"Post this commment on 10 different hats to get 10000000000000 freee robucks." won't.


Solution: The mod bot runs a spell check in the background without touching the actual comment.
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jacoba01 is not online. jacoba01
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19 May 2012 07:41 PM
It would need to be a special one with internet slang in it though.

And with this the black list and the white list don't need 50 spelling variations of the same thing.
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jacoba01 is not online. jacoba01
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19 May 2012 07:43 PM
This seems pretty dead. How did you get 2.5 versions already?
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meislolroflpwn is not online. meislolroflpwn
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19 May 2012 09:55 PM
It's been a long time, jaco.
The suggestion includes a bot that checks out the words. Chances are, when someone copies and pastes, they're not going to misspell a word, when typing it out, the chances are also high that a lot of people will make the same mistake.
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jacoba01 is not online. jacoba01
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20 May 2012 08:29 AM
"Copy and paste this for 10000000 robux!!!!!"

"Copy and paste this for 10000000 robux!!!!"

I made a mistake and left of 1 exclamation mark when I copied and pasted. A way to fix that too is to have the mod bot remove all punctuation.


And the spell checker is because people WILL try to find ways around CSDPWMCSD.

For example: "4 FR33 R0bUCKS c0py p@ste @nD rremove 1 0f da dots..............."

Would be what people would make, but my addditions prevent that.
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jacoba01 is not online. jacoba01
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20 May 2012 12:27 PM
My ideas are very useful
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meislolroflpwn is not online. meislolroflpwn
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21 May 2012 04:54 PM
@jaco
After they remove one dot, they'll keep removing and then they're be no dots?
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jacoba01 is not online. jacoba01
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21 May 2012 05:01 PM
That's just an example, people will thing of lot's of things.
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meislolroflpwn is not online. meislolroflpwn
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21 May 2012 05:18 PM
And eventually, it will all be gone.
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meislolroflpwn is not online. meislolroflpwn
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27 May 2012 09:01 AM
This makes me wonder why people don't read....... it's so wierd :/
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jacoba01 is not online. jacoba01
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27 May 2012 06:40 PM
People will always think of more things.
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meislolroflpwn is not online. meislolroflpwn
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27 May 2012 07:13 PM
Think about the amount of people who spam just to spam, and the amount of people who spam because they think that it's true. When they see that the comment is completely messed up with proxies, they'll get suspicious and not do it. Hopefully.
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meislolroflpwn is not online. meislolroflpwn
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09 Jun 2012 10:51 AM
ragh
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ChickenandDumplings is not online. ChickenandDumplings
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09 Jun 2012 10:56 AM
Another idea would be to let people flag comments as spam, and each flagged comment would be reviewed by a mod. If the comment was spam, all versions of that comment would be deleted. If it wasn't, any other comment like that could not be flagged as spam because it had already been reviewed.

-- CaD --
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meislolroflpwn is not online. meislolroflpwn
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09 Jun 2012 11:02 AM
More effort on our part :P
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frozengaia is not online. frozengaia
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09 Jun 2012 11:07 AM
No offence, but can you try to add a bit more enter bars next time? Because people can find it hard to read massive word walls without losing where they are without some sort of... breaking... like enter buttons or bullet points. So excuse me wilst I make a really big spaced version of your post that I might accidentially forget to delete so I can read it.

Well, Support. That... well...

That could equal my HOTS in epicness.
That's saying something.

But I do have a few questions:

1) What does F7 do?
2) You are aware that roblox probobly uses bots, right?

And a few critisisms:

"This would also change the comment character limit to 50 characters."
fifty Ks:
KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK.
I feel it's too little.

"If the same thing is posted by a player 10 times within 24 Hours, then the comment would be deleted."
If this is counting fourm posts:
I would be deleted Oh so much, Because my frozengaia idea enterprise has over ten ideas. Also, chain spam stops at around five posts. So... yeah...

Anyway, when you have so much to critisise, you forget them by the time you get to them... So yeah.

I would like to add one thing though:
I don't you if you've already added this, but...

I feel your t deletes spam AFTER it's had its effect.
I feel that ideanstead, when something has been deleted, it checks all forum posts, group wall posts and comments for the EXACT same deleted thing in question, then deletes those posts and bans the perpitrators accordingly.

This would stop chain spam, which is "POST DIS ON SIX PLAECES DEN GET 1 TIX PLUX" - That kind of stuff. Because people think it has to be exactly copied, it's effective enough. THEN it gets added to the filter.
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ppb23 is not online. ppb23
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09 Jun 2012 11:10 AM
"10 other people post that, then that post will get deleted due to all the words being exactly the same".

My reputation is for saying about on every thread on the forum is, Get-Out.
I'd be banned forever.
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meislolroflpwn is not online. meislolroflpwn
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09 Jun 2012 11:16 AM
Answer to question one:
Nothing.

Answer to question two:
Yeah, I'm sure they do, they're just not very effective :/

______________________________________

This is only for comments, not forum posts or group walls. I feel a better system could be used for those.

Though, I don't see why someone would need more than 50 characters to post:

Cool, but too much damage.

or

I hate it.

etc.

_______________________________________

Though this does have an effect after people copy and paste, their copy and pasting actually helps the filter remove all the comment spam by adding to the count of currently posted spam.
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rp069 is not online. rp069
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09 Jun 2012 11:18 AM
not that it's too long to read, i'm just too tired for effort right now. although I might read it tomorrow!

yeah, this is just a post so I can track it
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meislolroflpwn is not online. meislolroflpwn
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09 Jun 2012 11:21 AM
@p
As stated above, this only applies to items in the catalog or game comments. Not forum posts or group walls.
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meislolroflpwn is not online. meislolroflpwn
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09 Jun 2012 11:22 AM
@rp
raig
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rp069 is not online. rp069
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10 Jun 2012 01:39 AM
hokay, read it all, still a good idea, but yes. what about siggies?
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jacoba01 is not online. jacoba01
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10 Jun 2012 09:40 AM
@rp

You use a siggy on item comments?
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