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Re: The Best Trading System On Roblox: HOTS 8.0.

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frozengaia is not online. frozengaia
Joined: 09 Oct 2009
Total Posts: 19760
19 May 2012 08:58 AM
WARNING: THIS POST IS LONG. SERIOUSLY.

So, what's a TS, people? It's a trading system.

And on that note, welcome to the eighth version of one of the best ideas in S&I, by far the best idea I have ever made. HOTS, or "The Haggle Offering Trading System", is here again. And people hate how many times I've done this, because it's been made again and again.

So, Before we go into details, here's the absolute basics and morals of the system:

A trading system that can trade a diverse ammount of items with ease, not just limited gear.
A trading system that is purely scam free.
A trading system that actually takes into account the NBCers. Not meaning they can do everything, just a few restirctions. Compared to a full banning of the system.
A trading system that takes into account the critisism (Providing it's sensible.) of others and incorprates the solutions. Eight fixes of community oppinions. Power.

And, to make things a little easier to understand, I will compare My dominant and superior HOTS to the proposed TS by the developers.

So, how to access HOTS?
The admin's TS says by the profile.
However, my TS is too complex, and ergo good, for that. You can access my TS in two ways:
1) In the catalog, trade items will be apparent.
2) With your party.

We'll say you picked the catalog route.

So, you'll be transported to a room with four tabs, one for each corner.
TRADE.
SYSTEM.
CHAT.
EXIT.

Comparison of proposed TS:
A room of immediate trading. No options, no chatting.

Now, we'll start with EXIT.

Exit allows you to get out of the trading system.

Now, CHAT.
This is where my HOTS starts to spiral out of mundane normal ones.
You can CHAT with other people. Like game chat.
Why will this help?
Well, two things.
1) Tell people your deal, and get it known.
2) Tell people what your english exam scores. If nothing else, HOTS gives a nice relaxing chatroom.

"But, this makes no sense. You're only trading with one person!"
WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sorry, but HOTS actually doesn't make it one. It makes it EIGHT. EIGHT people in a single trade room, trading thier items to appease the owner. Now, this is how HOTS really stands out; it makes people make higher bargains, adding an element of Bartering skill. It teaches a LOT of economic skills, HOTS does. And roblox likes that.

So, Now, it's complex, isn't it?
In fact, I don't know where to explain this bit.

Okay, system.

This is what I like to call a 'fractured egg' explaination; It only makes sense when you've read all of the other parts.

System is important.
This is where you will be controling your trades. This is where you will be creating your trades, where you'll filter trade searches, where the host'll use its special abillities in trading. See? Makes no sense. Fractured egg.

NOW, ON TO A BIT SOME OF YOU HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR BUT MOST OF YOU DON'T REALLY CARE: WHAT THE TRADE BUTTON DOES.

The trade button lets you search trades. And join them. Still makes no sense? I'm reading it back to myself and I understand.

So, how does the trade button do it?

When you click it, a list of trades come up, and a SEARCH BAR! :D
This lets you search for trading rooms.
To start, search for an item. Double rainbow, maybe.
System lets you filter these searches further.
In these ways:
Search for people, not items.
Search for trading rooms with X ammount of people already in.
Search for trading rooms with the trading catalyst of X-X tix, converted.
Search for trading rooms with BC only/ Not for sale/ limited items.
Search for trading rooms with auction, private, or public.
(NOTE: if you're NBC, you cannot search for BC only atall. If you're BC, you cannot search for TBC or OBC only, and so on.)

Dev's idea? Private only.

So, you can understand that. The search shows what all players are offering, which one is the host, or owner, of the room, and the converted tix ratio.

So, finally, to trading rooms!
Before we get started, there are three types to trading rooms.

Public is the one we're talking about. Anyone can join, leave, trade. ETC.
Private is where you are forced to invite people. If you started a trade via party, everyone would be a trader in a private trade, the party leader/owner the host.
Auction is where you sell for money.

In auction, you sell items, and only get money back. This might be BC only.
So, you set the price for each it- WRONG.
In auction, your starting price is 5% off what the ORIGINAL price was, in tix. Converted into tix is robux is involved, rounded down to the nearest whole number. So, is you auction an item of five robux, and 1 robux = 10 tix.

five robux converted = 50 tix.
5% of fifty is 2.5.
2.5 rounded down is 2.
The starting price would be 2 tix. If 1 robux= 20 tix, then the starting price would be five tix.

Anyway, you have X hours real time before the auction expires. X is equal to a number (highest= 120, or five days.) of you choice that you choose... IN SYSTEM! When you create the trade!
People bid five tix at a time. If you have more tix then the auction wants, BAM, goodbye trade. Buying things that you need? The money is locked. :3
Anyway, the last bidder when the price expires, is the person. Five percent goes to roblox, like they do.

On to public and private!

They're the same essentially.

The host makes the trade in system, choosing what (s)he's going to give, what (s)he "wants"- to put in a wish list, how many people are joining, what kind of trade, and if it's BC only or not.

In fact, I'll get this over and done with.

Most contraversial part of HOTS: If the item is off-sale, money, BC only. Then an NBCer cannot pariticipate. A warning will come up.

Anyway, The wish list I was talking about:

People can make a list of what they want. So people can have a better idea what they want. Host or otherwise.

To get onto more terminology, the trading catalyst is what the host is trading.

So, someone who joins the room, gives an item in return. CATCH TIME:
Converted tix is so useful.
If the converted tix of both players has a difference of over 300, two things can happen:
1) the trade cannot happen. To prevent scamming.
2) Warn people that this might be a scam. To prevent scamming.
I'll let the public choose. For it's the public that made this idea as awesome as it is.

So, items then are traded once people ar- WRONG!

That's what it's like with the dev's system.

But what does that H stand for? HAGGLE! So, naturally, this TS involves a bit of haggling. Sounds scottish for some reason... :/

Anyway, you look though your stuff to say what you're going to trade. You can also REQUEST items from others in the same way. Mutual agreement. :D

Anyway, the host has a few powers in his trade, done in system. Here's the list.

Exile: permenantly stops someone from coming in.
Unexile: ^^^'s opposite.
Lock: stop people joining.
Unlock: ^^^'s opposite.
Leave: Self explanitory.
Accept: accept one person's trade.
Save: prevents people from being exiled by mistake.
Unsave: prevents people from not being exiled by mistake. Common joke on HOTS.

So, great public, that is it. For now. Until later, when I'll do 9.0 :3
I'm sorry Mr. Shedletsky, did I just completely blow your mind up? :D

Questions? Tell me, please.
Critisism? YES PLEASE!
Envy flames? Go on.
If you don't support, you MUST give a valid reason. Or I am forced to count it as a support.

Frozengaia signing out, again. :3
See you soon, ladies and gentlemen.

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Torpedo17 is not online. Torpedo17
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19 May 2012 09:07 AM
If a tree falls in the forest and no one is around to hear it, does it say "SUPPORT!" very loudly?
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frozengaia is not online. frozengaia
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19 May 2012 09:22 AM
Yes, it does.
My thank you for supporting, torpedo.
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123456789o is not online. 123456789o
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19 May 2012 09:27 AM
This is probably the most detailed, longest, and more non-"NBC SUX", all caps rage, or "BC NEEDZ MPOAR!!!".
I suppor tabout 1,500x I normaly wood.
Wait a sec...
But still, I FULLY support this. I'd do practily ANYTHING to make this happen.


-Wub Wub Wub
-All you have to do is take a cup of flour, and add it to the mix
Cave Johnson; Sgt. Major Johnson
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watevs44 is not online. watevs44
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19 May 2012 09:31 AM
Y U NO MENTION ME IN THIS VERSION!?!
Support by the way,
BUT WHY!?!

!Dream Crusher Strikes Again:3
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AnimatedDUDE is not online. AnimatedDUDE
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19 May 2012 09:44 AM
Nothing should be BC only. Besides that, I support this 100%.
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ultrakiller21 is not online. ultrakiller21
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19 May 2012 09:50 AM
I support this 1337.1337.1337 times I normally would. And I do support because. Well I read 50% and then read another 50%.


Ach whatever I support!
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frozengaia is not online. frozengaia
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19 May 2012 10:13 AM
My thank you mr. Consecutive numbers, mtr. watevs, mr. animated and mr. ultra.


Watevs: Because you're ugly. Trolololololololololololol. :3
Animated: It's never going to be entirely NBC. It's impossible without abuse as I know.
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MikkelDude is not online. MikkelDude
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19 May 2012 10:34 AM
I don't get why you have to put acronyms on everything... but..

I support. :3
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frozengaia is not online. frozengaia
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19 May 2012 10:36 AM
IDHTPAOEBTYFSAMM.



(Acronym for "I don't have to put acryonyms on everything but thank you for supporting anyway mtr. mikkel.)


:3
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watevs44 is not online. watevs44
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19 May 2012 10:43 AM
>:U
I PRETTY

!Dream Crusher Strikes Again:3
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frozengaia is not online. frozengaia
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19 May 2012 10:45 AM
Indeed you are watevs.


Pretty ugly. :3
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watevs44 is not online. watevs44
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19 May 2012 10:59 AM
Pretty awesome and pretty like this thread

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17dogmaster is not online. 17dogmaster
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19 May 2012 12:24 PM
I read the whole thing. This may actually be the best idea of 2012. It makes total and complete sense, and we need a mod to read this. 100% support. The only little thing I see is that considering how complex it is, we'd have to wait another year for the TS :/
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Flamagon is not online. Flamagon
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19 May 2012 01:10 PM
I'm getting BC when this comes out.
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BrockRocksYourSocks is not online. BrockRocksYourSocks
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19 May 2012 01:35 PM
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tonykaree13 is not online. tonykaree13
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19 May 2012 01:46 PM
I support the HOTS idea better than the original.

LEGIT SIR
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snakehunt is not online. snakehunt
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19 May 2012 01:51 PM
LEGIIIIIIIIIIT

LEGIT
LEGIT
LEGIT
SUPPORT
SUPPORT
SUPPORT
SUPPORT

Must I say more?
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sly475 is not online. sly475
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19 May 2012 01:52 PM
Support, the up-to-eight trade rooms made me happy.
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RedSuper007 is not online. RedSuper007
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19 May 2012 01:56 PM
yes EPICLY LEGIT EPICLY LEGIT oh plus i support 1,000,000% enen though im obc nbc should get stuff too
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Vacei is not online. Vacei
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19 May 2012 02:48 PM
The developers Trade System is better.
Just saying.
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watevs44 is not online. watevs44
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19 May 2012 02:53 PM
@Vacei.

You better be ready to argue that. Frozengaia doesn't take lightly to disputers. Even so, you've yet to provide any reasons to justify your No Support, or why the developer's is better, rendering your comment rather redundant either way.

!Dream Crusher Strikes Again:3
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Hippowdon27 is not online. Hippowdon27
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19 May 2012 03:59 PM
I am not going to sit at my computer for hours thinking of a meaningful way to express how I feel about this. So what do I say? I LOVE IT!! *Troll+EpicFaic* And that, good sirs of Robloxia, is how I condense.
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ffwalt is not online. ffwalt
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19 May 2012 04:06 PM
This should totally be on ROBLOX. Except for 1 flaw. Everyone would be bugging dominus owners for thier dominuses.
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frozengaia is not online. frozengaia
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21 May 2012 11:48 AM
My thank you for supporting nearly everyone. Espcially you, vacei.
Oh, what's that? You didn't support? Oh I'm sorry, your reasoning for why wasn't exactly valid enough, so I forced myself to make it a support.

Ffwalt: well, that's a flaw on basically every TS. Exept I haven't made an invite system. I'll add that for 9.0.


Dogmaster: they could make thier currently planned TS, then make this, satisfying quality and speed.

And bump. If this goes on the way it's going... A full decapage of epic win.
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