BioBot95
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| 02 Jun 2012 10:37 AM |
Not a flamewar. I'm not that immature.
I'm bored and want to discuss philosophy of some kind with someone (Preferably also mature enough to have an inteligent conversation). I don't care what topic, I just want to debate something with somebody.
Here's the problem, there's not alot I care about. If you can spark a debate or argument with me, I'd appreciate it, just don't be immature about it.
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| 02 Jun 2012 10:38 AM |
I also like arguments. No, I'm not talking about immature insulting.
I sometimes wish that ROBLOX allowed mature discussion of philosophical, religious, or political issues. |
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BioBot95
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| 02 Jun 2012 10:39 AM |
Meh. Religion and sometimes philosophy doesn't really interest me.
Now polotics, I'll talk about that all day.
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sweetie
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| 02 Jun 2012 10:41 AM |
| Let's discuss whether or not Israel is justified to launch a pre-emptive attack on Iran. |
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BioBot95
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| 02 Jun 2012 10:42 AM |
Depends on the two sides of the argument. I can't discuss anything unless I know what i'm talking about.
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| 02 Jun 2012 10:43 AM |
Uhh.. The presidential race?
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sweetie
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| 02 Jun 2012 10:47 AM |
Well lets see.
Iran has been hating on Israel for the reasons of religion. I quote their leader, whose name I cannot spell nor pronounce, "Israel is a cancerous tumor and should be cut from the world."
Therefore, this poses an eminent threat to Israel because of Iran's developing nuclear energy program.
On the other hand, it is not completely proven that Iran's nuclear energy program will be used to develop nuclear weapons. If Israel were to launch a pre-emptive attack, it might destroy Iran for no hard-evidence that they were in danger.
Also, by launching a pre-emptive attack, it will kill a lot of citizens. |
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BioBot95
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| 02 Jun 2012 10:51 AM |
Somewhere in the back of my mind, I think I did know that...
Alright, here's my opinion.
A pre-emptive strike has no current justification. Previous opinions or statements may have nothing to do with the nuclear program. However, I do recommend spies of some kind. Dishonest, yes, but it would prove the whether or not Iran's really developing Nukes.
In the case that they are, AND Israel can prove somehow they'll be the first target, then by all means, fire away.
But gather proof first.
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| 02 Jun 2012 10:51 AM |
| I'm anti attack. The cons seem to outweigh the pros. Assuming that Israel has a few allies, it would be too risky for Iran to attempt. |
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| 02 Jun 2012 10:53 AM |
| However according to the IAEA (International Atomic Energy Agency), there has been direct evidence that Iran is developing Uranium-235, which can only be used in nuclear bombs. Therefore, Israel does have a justification of seeing itself in danger, does it not? |
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| 02 Jun 2012 10:56 AM |
| Uranium-235 can be used for energy generation as well as nuclear weapons, it provides them with some proof, but what if it simply is energy production? |
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BioBot95
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| 02 Jun 2012 10:58 AM |
Hence the justification for government spies. Let's gather information before we start firing nukes, no?
I admit the odds are stacked against them, and I won't blame them for a pre-emptive strike, but going on facts alone, the evidence simply isn't strong enough.
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sweetie
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| 02 Jun 2012 10:59 AM |
| If it is simply energy production, we cannot justify an attack. However, a preemptive attack has many options. For example, a computer virus named Stuxnet was used decades ago by the US to determine if Iran was using nuclear weapons. They hid it in their files of their nuclear energy program. I propose that Israel launches a similar virus to ensure their safety. |
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BioBot95
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| 02 Jun 2012 11:01 AM |
Oh great. Skynet and the Terminators are already in progress.
Anyway, yes I agree. An AI would be even more usefull, and maybe even harder to find, than an agent.
Good call.
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| 02 Jun 2012 11:03 AM |
| If they found proof that they were developing nuclear weapons, but weren't completely sure as to whether or not they were planning an attack with them, I would be fine with the preemptive attack. |
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sweetie
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| 02 Jun 2012 11:03 AM |
| I suppose that this debate has been concluded. |
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BioBot95
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| 02 Jun 2012 11:05 AM |
Great. We're all in agreement.
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What kind of government will the robots set up when they take over do you think?
(Serious question. My favorite topics are time travel and potential future subjects. Also infinity is fun to think about. I'm a nerd, what can I say.)
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| 02 Jun 2012 11:07 AM |
| If robots took over, I'd say that due to the amount of AI required to create robots with enough intelligence to take over and the nature of humans enjoy keeping their things as safe as possible, any series of robots developed by humans with enough AI to take over the world would definitely set up a totalitarian government. |
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BioBot95
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| 02 Jun 2012 11:12 AM |
I've always thought that the robots would set up a kind of socialist-parlaiment. The robots would need input from those governed to find problems, but it would have total control over the basic needs of society. Aside from those basic needs (Preventing crime, distributing resources, etc.) The robots wouldn't really regulate that stuff. It doesn't need to be regulated.
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