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Re: Fox's Anti-Obama Propaganda Ad

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IamLibyan is not online. IamLibyan
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31 May 2012 08:46 AM
Four-minute attack ad is called unauthorized

It’s easy to make a mistake on the air, blurt something out, let a biased comment slip.

But a four-minute, elaborately produced taped package?

That’s a statement. A carefully constructed message. And, in the case of what aired on Fox News on Wednesday morning, a premeditated attack.


The thing has to be seen to be believed. It is a classic piece of negative propaganda, scary music and all.

The piece starts off with Barack Obama promising change, and then, banging the viewer over the head: A bag of money, labeled a $15.7-trillion deficit. Footage of begging homeless people. The jobless rate ticking up to 8.3 percent (though it’s down from 9.9). Shots of people using food stamps as Nancy Pelosi favorably mentions the program and the unbiased Newt Gingrich rips Obama as a food-stamp president. Rising gas prices. Rising food prices. Foreclosure signs. A pink piggy bank tumbling down the stairs. Speeded-up snippets of unseen voices delivering bad news.

And how did Fox & Friends react to this assault on the senses? “Hats off to Chris White,” said co-host Steve Doocy, crediting the associate producer who made the video.

I’m telling you, Mitt Romney’s campaign wouldn’t have produced this. The RNC wouldn’t have produced this. Karl Rove’s group wouldn’t have produced this. It is a parody of an attack spot and would have been laughed out of the political arena.

Fox reacted by yanking the video from its website and issuing a tepid statement from executive vice president Bill Shine: “The package that aired on Fox & Friends was created by an associate producer and was not authorized at the senior executive level of the network. This has been addressed with the show’s producers.”

That’s it?

“Not authorized”? No denunciation of the video? No apology? No disciplinary action?

Obviously, Rupert Murdoch’s network has been battling charges of conservative bias since it launched in 1996. It’s the network of Sean Hannity, Karl Rove and Sarah Palin, the network that employed Newt Gingrich and Rick Santorum until they ran for president. The network where Glenn Beck called the president a racist and another anchor accused Obama of giving his wife a “terrorist fist jab.”

But Fox also maintains that its straight-news shows, hosted by the likes of Bret Baier, Chris Wallace and Megyn Kelly and Shepard Smith, are fair and balanced. Indeed, I’ve argued that the first three asked tough questions of the GOP candidates at a series of primary debates. And that reporters such as Ed Henry and John Roberts didn’t become unfair when they joined Fox from CNN.

But Wednesday’s video tarnishes the journalists who work at Fox News. Everyone knows that Fox & Friends is a right-leaning show whose hosts have disparaged Obama. During the 2008 campaign, Wallace accused the program of "distorting" what the candidate had said and declared that "two hours of Obama-bashing may be enough."

The fact that the hosts were happy with this latest video assault on the president is nothing short of revealing.

This is a moment of truth heading into the general election. Roger Ailes should denounce the video and criticize his network’s handling of it. He should make clear that such partisan garbage has no place on Fox News. Otherwise people will assume that Fox’s worst critics are right.
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Goosebumps is not online. Goosebumps
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31 May 2012 09:56 AM
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Bushey101 is not online. Bushey101
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31 May 2012 10:03 AM
Well FOX was never logical in the first place.
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Whufuwhuju88 is not online. Whufuwhuju88
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31 May 2012 12:41 PM
Its not like CNN or MSNBC are any different.

What is your point? Of course FOX is baised, but its not like liberals watch it anyways.

Dems watch left-baised programs
Reps watch right-baised programs.

That is how it works in the United States.
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tomato12 is not online. tomato12
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31 May 2012 03:04 PM
OH BOOHOO THEY HATE OBAMA ITS THR END OF THE WORLD
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LinkLounge is not online. LinkLounge
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31 May 2012 03:05 PM
I think it should be acted upon, but I bet the'll be hit soon enough.
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SolarSentient is not online. SolarSentient
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31 May 2012 03:32 PM
Not as bad as the subliminal New World Order messages on CNN and BBC.
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b3njam1n is not online. b3njam1n
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31 May 2012 04:46 PM
Everyone is biased however FOX is the least compared to corrupt networks like CNN and NBC.

Don't remember when NBC edited the Trayvon Martin case to try to divide the nation for their own purposes? Or how about in the 90's when they lied about GM's trucks being dangerous and GM sued them big time?

There's a reason that FOX brings commentators from both sides on the show. I've never seen that on any other network and there's also a reason why they're the top rated News channel.
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PwnzerKniteTheStrong is not online. PwnzerKniteTheStrong
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31 May 2012 05:29 PM
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Marauder0 is not online. Marauder0
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31 May 2012 05:33 PM
they dont like obama neither does the rest of america (the ones that live there legally)
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PwnzerKniteTheStrong is not online. PwnzerKniteTheStrong
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31 May 2012 05:34 PM
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b3njam1n is not online. b3njam1n
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31 May 2012 08:16 PM
I don't understand how an instance in high school has anything to do with the present. The family of the "bullied" kid even denied he was bullied but nobody likes talking about the truth apparently. If they wanna talk about something that happened 40 years ago, let's talk about Obama when he used to be a druggie
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DrCaneJr is not online. DrCaneJr
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31 May 2012 08:28 PM
The funny part, is that fox news biased, is true. He did make a 15.7 trillion debt deficit.
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CustomCartridgesGuy is not online. CustomCartridgesGuy
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01 Jun 2012 05:20 AM
He didn't make the entire debt.
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IamLibyan is not online. IamLibyan
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01 Jun 2012 06:00 AM
Its not like CNN or MSNBC are any different.
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Yeah they are.



What is your point? Of course FOX is baised, but its not like liberals watch it anyways.
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Don't you support free, independent media that is objective? Go watch taliban TV then.

The problem with FOX is that you act as if it was some super real informant news organization, while you know that they run these anti obama ads made by themselves.



OH BOOHOO THEY HATE OBAMA ITS THR END OF THE WORLD
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The problem is that they say they are unbiased. You guys say it too. A news organization, that takes sides instead of reporting objectively? Too bad, but this is not how it works in the other western societies.




Everyone is biased however FOX is the least compared to corrupt networks like CNN and NBC.
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Proof.






Don't remember when NBC edited the Trayvon Martin case to try to divide the nation for their own purposes? Or how about in the 90's when they lied about GM's trucks being dangerous and GM sued them big time?
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Every "liberal media" incident has 5 FOX news "incidents".





There's a reason that FOX brings commentators from both sides on the show.
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As if CNN, MSNBC and others dont have...?




I've never seen that on any other network
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Because you dont watch others...?


and there's also a reason why they're the top rated News channel.
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Thats what conservatives think. Everyone else doesnt agree.




fox Is far less bias then any liberal run new's.
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Fir'st let's teach's you's how to u'se apostrophe's.

You put an apostrophe in genitive: John's car, CNN's bias, Czechia's soccer, Libya's noobs, GOP's opinion, Mitt's money

When cops have guns you say

Cops' guns

Watchers' snacks, players' bats (80 players and their bats)

you don't put an apostrophe when words are in plural: Cars, Veggies, Hippies, News, Books, Carts, Candies, Jews, Muslims, Conservatives


And nope, Fox news is not far less biased. FOX watchers are always the most misinformed watchers in the media.


List liberal's on fox.
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LiberalS



List conservative's on CNN.
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ConservativeS

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IamLibyan is not online. IamLibyan
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01 Jun 2012 06:09 AM
Can't we call the fact they are bringing up that Mitt Romney possibly bullied a kid as propaganda?

Or the throwing grandma's off cliff's thing?

Or that protest clip with photoshopped racist signs?

Or the countless list of minor political commecial's that you are compareing to propaganda?



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Watch the ad for yourself.


And I remind you, its made by FOX news, NOT mitt romney or gop or any organization. It's major news organization, but by showing lies and obvious propaganda to delude watchers is not really allowed nor encouraged. Support that if you want, but I tell you, even FOX's top people criticized this ad.
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tomato12 is not online. tomato12
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01 Jun 2012 06:37 AM
And I remind you, its made by FOX news,
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So?

NOT mitt romney or gop or any organization.
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and?

It's major news organization,
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it actually has more views than any otheer news network. This is not only what "we think", its ue

but by showing lies
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not lies

and obvious propaganda
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lol
to delude watchers is not really allowed nor encouraged.
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freedom of speech.

Support that if you want, but I tell you, even FOX's top people criticized this ad.
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Talk to any Fox News-hating liberal and you'll here the same old regurgitated talking point- "Fox is not Fair & Balanced," "Rightwing propaganda." One network, Fox News, has twice the number of opposing commentators than does all media sources combined. If you add up the major media properties; ABC, NBC, CBS, MSNBC, CNN, PBS, New York Times, Washington Post, and Newsweek -- you get a total of five so-called conservative personalities among hundreds of liberals. At the least, Fox News employs the following liberals;
Juan Williams
Alan Colmes
Kirsten Powers
Shepard Smith
Geraldo Rivera
Mara Liasson
Bill Schulz
Susan Estrich
Ed Henry
Bob Beckel
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IamLibyan is not online. IamLibyan
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01 Jun 2012 08:10 AM

So?
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Since when news organizations take sides?



and?
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The issue is about news taking SIDES. ACTIVELY __ATTACKING__ other candidate.




it actually has more views than any otheer news network. This is not only what "we think", its ue
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It's because FOX runs many county level channels that are not related with anyway to the big one.




not lies
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Check the video again.


freedom of speech.
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Okay so from your viewpoint its OK to lie in news? The issue here that IT IS NEWS ORGANIZATION, NOT COMEDY TV! THE NEWS MADE THE ATTACK VID AND AIRED IT

@REST OF YOUR COMMENT

Using conservativepedia is extremely foolish. Get your own arguments, or at least stop copy pasting it. Thank you!
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CustomCartridgesGuy is not online. CustomCartridgesGuy
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01 Jun 2012 08:10 AM
freedom of speech.

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That's not freedom of speech, that is brainwashing.
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IamLibyan is not online. IamLibyan
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01 Jun 2012 08:48 AM


Bill Shine, the executive vice president for programming at Fox News, issued a statement about the video on Wednesday afternoon.
"The package that aired on 'Fox & Friends' was created by an associate producer and was not authorized at the senior executive level of the network," Shine said. "This has been addressed with the show’s producers.”
Fox News later confirmed that the video had been removed from both its main website and the network's aggregation site


Conservative commentators also expressed discomfort with the video. Hot Air's Ed Morrisey said that it didn't seem like something a news organization should be producing.

Props for FOX news, big minus for the conservatives of Roblox hiking and skiing into this thread and defending the ad without even reading what happened.
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IamLibyan is not online. IamLibyan
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01 Jun 2012 08:51 AM
"If there was ever any doubt Fox News is an arm of the Republican party, it ended today"

Also, the Creator Of Fox's Anti-Obama Attack Ad Will Not Be Hired By CNN
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IamLibyan is not online. IamLibyan
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01 Jun 2012 08:54 AM
Also thepit, while conservapedia is dismissing the conservatives working for CNN and others as "token conservatives", why can't we dismiss the liberals working for FOX as "token liberals"?
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nahom007 is not online. nahom007
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01 Jun 2012 10:31 AM
What else do you expect from networks ran by racists?
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DanBloxTheGreat is not online. DanBloxTheGreat
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01 Jun 2012 10:45 AM
Okay there's no argument here that they shouldn't be this biased.

I heard a study showed that FOX was the least biased news channel...I'm not so sure now.

And stop acting as if it's normal. IamLibyan will keep answering back with what's right.
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tomato12 is not online. tomato12
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01 Jun 2012 11:14 AM
T never dismissed them.

@Custom

Freedom of the press. They can say what they want. If you want to censor it then censor yourself and every single thing that has to do with politics because that is brainwashing.
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