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Should laws about victimless crimes be abolished?

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mikeyman10ash is not online. mikeyman10ash
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26 May 2012 07:14 PM
You might think they should, others think they shouldn't.

I think they should be abolished, simply because they aren't harming anyone or threatening their right to live a peaceful life, free of violence, nor are they violating other personal rights, such as property. Arson, for example, is a crime that destroys property. But really, should it be illegal if it is not harming anybody? I understand selling some dr00gs is illegal because of their effects on the human body and nervous system, but why should you be punished for it if you are not harming anyone, nor stealing or destroying their property?

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26 May 2012 07:16 PM
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mage11561 is not online. mage11561
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26 May 2012 07:25 PM
Arson is generally either against someone or for insurance fraud.

Unsafe destruction of property should be outlawed, regardless of who owns it.

If you light your house on fire, guess what?

SMOKE ERRRYWHERE

and you can light others houses on fire.
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XxmagicmagicmexX is not online. XxmagicmagicmexX
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26 May 2012 07:25 PM
Name examples of victimless crimes that do not involve property, I'm having a brain fart.
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mage11561 is not online. mage11561
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26 May 2012 07:29 PM
Define "victimless"

I'd say use of many dwugs is victimless.
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mikeyman10ash is not online. mikeyman10ash
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26 May 2012 07:29 PM
@Xx

Victimless crimes are victimless. I don't know why there are laws that make them illegal. As long as you don't violate someone's rights, why should they violate your rights? For example, if you get the death penalty for violating a right to life, aren't they violating your's as well?

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mikeyman10ash is not online. mikeyman10ash
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26 May 2012 07:29 PM
@mage

Victimless as in no murder, stealing, arson, etc. Victimless being violating no rights of other people.

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WhyTruth is not online. WhyTruth
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26 May 2012 07:30 PM
Destruction of property makes the owner the victim. If the owner does the damage then the insurrance company is the victim
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mikeyman10ash is not online. mikeyman10ash
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26 May 2012 07:32 PM
@Why

Where did I say anything opposite of that? Victimless here is being defined as not threatening nor violating the rights of others.

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26 May 2012 08:35 PM
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26 May 2012 08:41 PM
Then. List. Them.

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26 May 2012 09:37 PM
Littering
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making people clean up your garbage
negatively affecting the environment, which does hurt other people in the long run

Suicide and assisted suicide
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suicider's friends and family are emotionally hurt

Child P0pcoRN
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you need to capture children and r4ре them to have child рr0nz
encouraging р3dоph1les to kidnap and hurt children

@ge of consent
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child watches violent, bloody content. child becomes a psychоpath to other people

Underage Drinking
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underage person does irresponsible things to other people when dr0nk

Public entoxication
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possibility of irresponsible actions against other people
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26 May 2012 10:11 PM
>making people clean up your garbage
negatively affecting the environment, which does hurt other people in the long run
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The environment has dealt with worse than landfills. Plus the idea of another person cleaning up your garbage creates jobs.

>suicider's friends and family are emotionally hurt
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Yes they are hurt, but it is up to the person committing suicide, not the friends or family.

>you need to capture children and r4ре them to have child рr0nz
encouraging р3dоph1les to kidnap and hurt children
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Well Child POpcoRN is lightly defined, it could be someone 10 or 17. That works to a level, like a 16 year old doesn't have a large maturity difference than an 18 year old. A 10 year old does. I have ethnics, not morals.

>child watches violent, bloody content. child becomes a psychоpath to other people
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Nature and nurture play a role in this, violent movies do not guarantee insanity, you are born with mental disabilities or you suffer trauma that causes one.

>underage person does irresponsible things to other people when dr0nk
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So do adults that get drunk, the toxins work the same. If you have a 200lbs ripped 16 year old and a 170lbs average adult in their 30's, alcohol will effect the 16 year old less. It comes down to body size.

>possibility of irresponsible actions against other people
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Anyone could do irresponsible acts when they are sober.
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