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Re: Hello, Proletari- I mean, ROBLOX Clan Members

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Helian is not online. Helian
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22 May 2012 10:30 PM
For too long, the bourgeoi- I mean, High Ranks in clans have been exploiting the lower ranked members. These capitalist pi- I mean, people, are benifitting from the hard work of the members. Increased ticket amounts, a self-dignifying feeling of power, and much more. The High Ranks constantly abuse their powers, leading to "Admin Attacks." The bourg- High Ranks should no longer do so!

Low Ranks, rise! The time has come! We must create a Sociali- I mean, a new group, where all of the members are treated equally. We must form a collective society where everyone is treated equally and recognized for their talents. Builders shall build, scripters can script, leaders will organize and lead, and warriors can defend the group.

It is time for the high rank's abuse to stop. In collective society, leaders are chosen because they can lead, they put the members first and know that they are able to better the group. Rather than promote personal agendas of greed and corruption, they use level-headed thought and logic to figure out the best direction of the group and make decisions.

#comradesunite
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Parasprite is not online. Parasprite
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22 May 2012 10:31 PM
Nonsense! Watch your place, serf!
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rockinst97 is not online. rockinst97
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22 May 2012 10:31 PM
HOW DARE YOU SAY THAT PARA.

-Personell [Queen] OVerlord of Empress August-
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Slashtitan is not online. Slashtitan
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22 May 2012 10:32 PM
I've tried that.

It didn't end well for me.
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Helian is not online. Helian
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22 May 2012 10:32 PM
Parasprite promotes values of greed and abuse. He is not of havink loyal natureski to collective. We must deal with him by force.

#whatflawedlogic
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Parasprite is not online. Parasprite
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22 May 2012 10:33 PM
You exist for exactly one reason, and that is to keep making me money!
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rockinst97 is not online. rockinst97
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22 May 2012 10:34 PM
I will take care of this.

-Personell [Queen] Overlord of Empress August-
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Helian is not online. Helian
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22 May 2012 10:37 PM
"You exist for exactly one reason, and that is to keep making me money!"
Capitalist Bourgeoise drone is unable to see brilliance of collective. He is of beink contaminated with lies. Correction chambers should be set up to deal wit' tink problem soon.

#revolution
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AugustImprove is not online. AugustImprove
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22 May 2012 10:39 PM
agreed ma'am.
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heypeople2011 is not online. heypeople2011
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22 May 2012 10:40 PM
You all exist to make me some cott- I mean wheat.

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hacker1leo is not online. hacker1leo
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22 May 2012 10:41 PM
Let me tell you something, you socialist pi- I mean respectable human being,
The concept that members, or inferiors, are entitled to positions of power over clans is very stupid. Sure, you just might be attempting to garner attention or pretend you know more than you really do about politics, but the fact is, equality and rights are two opinions. Not facts. Not realities.

People, in general, are inferior. Easily controlled and abused. American children get less education because corporation control the quality of education, in order to control the market and amount of succesful people in the world.

This control, is actually beneficial to society. While many think the world is random and unpredictable- believe me when I say this - it is controlled to the point where worrying about economic status is silly.

If people had the power to control the world, there would be no world left to control.


La gente, ignorante y inconcise,
Yo vengo aquí, no para traer paz, sino espada.
Una espada para la inteligencia,
Los que no son ignorantes del mundo y de su vulnerabilidad,
y una sentencia de muerte a todos aquellos que se oponen-
Nuevo Orden Mundial.
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Helian is not online. Helian
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22 May 2012 10:48 PM
hacker1leo, you capitalist pi- I mean, equally respected and valued member of collective society,

Inferiority is perspective. Say I can't do math, but I can write incredibly good essays. Another person next to me is a math wiz, but is horrible at essays. Together, we can form collective group that recognizes both talents and excels. Neither one is inferior, they have a different set of skills.

These skills are what we must highlight in order to take down the bourgeoise scu- I mean, abusers of power. Yes, control can be beneficial. However, you must find the best at control, and let them decide on the course. Many others prefer to just build, script, or fight (using ROBLOX as our example). Collective society would bring them together and let each one do what they do best. Each role is of equal importance, and some have what people view as "administrative positions." However, it is just their best quality. It does not make them superior.
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KrazLorvikk is not online. KrazLorvikk
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22 May 2012 10:52 PM
HAHAHA--Commu--well, I'm sure we all know what this thraed is.

=Chancellor of Morglakk=
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i0will0kill is not online. i0will0kill
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22 May 2012 10:55 PM
Communism all over again.

Chaos Overlord, Enlist in the Cadets Today!
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KrazLorvikk is not online. KrazLorvikk
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22 May 2012 10:56 PM
*thread

Spellcheck error, grammar fail.

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Helian is not online. Helian
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22 May 2012 10:57 PM
@Kraz,
Communism is a flawed economic policy where people are all distributed the same amount despite their amount of work done and the intensity of it. It has nothing to do with this, which is much different. This is emphasizing each person's individuality and being able to combine strengths to achieve much more. Naturally, everyone is treated equally, which by that we mean fairly. Ranks are pointless, but certain people will be known for their acts and motivation. Not everything is as bad as the poison markets of the modern world would have you believe.


#vivalarevolution
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hacker1leo is not online. hacker1leo
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22 May 2012 10:58 PM
No. Inferiority is a given in the realm of physics.
One is not greater than Two. Common sense. The force input by me, is 26N but the force exerted by you, is 2N, therefore I overpower your force.

This applies to nature, and modern society. I would rather employ the man with mathematical and literary skill as opposed the illiterate or mathematically challenged persons'.

Collective power is weaker than single power. Collectives can be altered by small force, considering that those participating in the collective are weak when alone. Single entities with the power and means are more powerful. They have yet to be taken down; and they won't be. Nikola Tesla, invented a free energy generator. Why has it not been used, or released? The patents were never made, and investors stopped funding him in efforts to prevent such a device from killing big businesses like General Electric.

In terms of ROBLOX's collective power, it is different. A single entity can be a powerhouse, and this happens in mass numbers. They can't be afflicted as easily by an outside force. Now, scripters and builders are worth more than "fighters". Fighters are expendable, and come in mass numbers. Those intelligent enough to build and utilize the tools ROBLOX has to offer are more powerful than fighters. It DOES make them superior. The more intelligent of the bunch exert more, therefore they are superior.


Logic.
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Helian is not online. Helian
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22 May 2012 11:04 PM
@hacker1leo,
Everyone in the collective should have a skill that they are able to contribute. Not everyone is a part of the collective. There are few times where one will be better at each and every thing than another person. In the case of that being, they can still generally work fairly decently at something, or be trained. Note that ROBLOX has younger users, which can be taught. Their younger age doesn't make them inferior.

Also, what is the size of the collective? The collective consists of people with unique skills that can come together and communicate. Too large, and it all goes to waste. A medium-sized group can all know each other and function well. A collective power filled with single entities with great power is greater than the single entities by themselves. As you said, one is not greater than two.

Your last paragraph about applying it to ROBLOX is good. However, what is a war group without the fighters? I can script some planes and tanks and design an awesome battlefield, but alone I have nobody to fight against or with. The "mass army" is in itself a single entity. The scripters another. The builders another. Each part of the collective society forms smaller and more efficient collectives. Individuals can be known, but they will not be superior in terms of rank, as the others do contribute. They might become leaders, but that is only because of natural ability. Their strengths allow them to help others achieve their fullest potential.

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hacker1leo is not online. hacker1leo
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22 May 2012 11:10 PM
Well, let me admit to you, I only debated with you to see if you knew your stuff when it came down to this sort of thing.

I believe in collective power, and you've beaten me on debating grounds.
Fair game.
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Wowgnomes is online. Wowgnomes
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22 May 2012 11:12 PM
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Helian is not online. Helian
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22 May 2012 11:18 PM
@hacker1leo,
Well, part of this is opinion. I think I understand the basics, and then have my own viewpoint as to the extremity of it, the size of collective groups, etc. Thank you, though.

@wowgnomes,
Which part?

#collectives
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