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LegalizeWater is not online. LegalizeWater
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17 May 2012 09:02 PM
Me and my friends were talking about it earlier today and decided we should.
Some other, braver atheists in my state have already done so and ended up beating their schools in lawsuits, as they were represented by the ACLU.

However I'm confident that our school's officials will be reasonable and replace the prayer with a moment of silence, which obviously anyone can pray if they want, just not on stage into a mic.
We're considering starting a petition seeing as our schools has a somewhat decent lot of other non theistic students.

Are we demanding that no one be allowed to pray? No. We're asking that there not be a prayer lead on stage. People can pray during a moment of silence, before and after the ceremony, at dinner, etc.
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17 May 2012 09:03 PM
Or you could personally not pray?

If the speaker is religious and wants to pray, you don't need to follow.
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LegalizeWater is not online. LegalizeWater
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17 May 2012 09:05 PM
It's a secular ceremony, I don't want someone wasting our time with their own beliefs.


Separation of Church and State FTW.
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17 May 2012 09:21 PM
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17 May 2012 09:23 PM
>Just because they said prayers you file lawsuit's that's overboard.

Prayer at the ceremony is illegal. I'm not going overboard.
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17 May 2012 09:24 PM
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17 May 2012 09:26 PM
>No it's not and yes you are.

It is illegal, bro. Look it up.

>They do not force anyone to do anything.

They force students out of class to attend then lead everyone in prayer.

I'm not going overboard on anything, you're simply wanting me to look as if I'm being militant.
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17 May 2012 09:28 PM
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17 May 2012 09:30 PM
>If people want to say prayers, doo it at home, at a place of prayer or at a private school. I has n place in public schools.


YES. We're has this side of thepitt been lurking all along??
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17 May 2012 09:31 PM
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17 May 2012 09:33 PM
>Holding a public prayer with a minority in attendance?

One thing that makes the US free is protection for the minority. Welcome to America, ol chap.

>That's BS I went to a ceremony in which the non christian's just sat while they had prayer's In fact the religiouse non christian'd took the time as time to pray to there own way.

Students are required to attend, this I have no problem with. Now, when they lead everyone in prayer, they're endorsing religion, this is a no no.

>Lawsuit?
>For what? Praying... come on man...

If you actually read my post I stated that my school would hopefully be reasonable and replace the prayer with a moment of silence, in which people can pray to themselves.
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17 May 2012 09:34 PM
>I believe in separation of church and state. I'm just not going to give the rest of my opinions tha o against yours so this doesn't become 4 threads of flame war
>I'm just not going to give the rest of my opinions tha o against yours so this doesn't become 4 threads of flame war
>I'm just not going to give the rest of my opinions tha o against yours so this doesn't become 4 threads of flame war



Burn this in your memory. Why couldn't you have done this earlier? You would have spared us both hours of BS.
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17 May 2012 09:35 PM
WHAT?

WHERE DO YOU LIVE THAT THIS STILL GOES ON?
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17 May 2012 09:36 PM
hickville louisiana
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17 May 2012 09:38 PM
Holy crap you need to take action

I can't believe parts of America are still living in the 60s
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17 May 2012 09:41 PM
PWNZER you don't understand the constitiution or anything in that matter

Prayer CANNOT be done in an institution that is controlled by the govenment.
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17 May 2012 09:44 PM
Explain "seperation of church and ------------->STATE<--------------"
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17 May 2012 09:58 PM
Who are you to interpret it like that? State means government in general.
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17 May 2012 10:02 PM
Meanwhile in USA...
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