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Re: The community needs to solve its own problems.

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grantox is not online. grantox
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15 May 2012 08:34 PM
Spammers, trolls, exploiters, od'ers are all just your average people. Its not americas fault that we have them and neither is roblox. They cant just find out everyone who is doing it, they have thousands of servers and reports every day. The hats/gear nbc bodies, updates and everything else is here witht the solution.

tl;dr at bottom

My SUGGESTION
That you should read this and then fomulate (or think) about what i want the community to do. Im suggesting we do what im saying.

Od'ing
What can we do? BOYCOTT ROLEPLAY GAMES. Lets face it, 90% of od'ing happens on roleplay games. But instead of boycotting them and stop making them what do we do? COMPLAIN TO ROBLOX WHEN ITS A PROBLEM WE COULD SOLVE IF WE TRIED. If you want to talk you can still go to hangout places :/ What about all the roleplayers? Well you could make a REAL GAME and then it would be a whole lot more fun. Report the remainder and you're done.

SPAM
Spam is taking over roblox. Most of it is just players trying to get free stuff. We could solve it (with a little help from roblox, dont get me wrong we need a little help) by telling new players that they dont work and all they do is block feedback. Some wont heed it but its still reducing it. But instead of doing it we shout STOP MAKING HATS AND MAKE BETTER BOTS! They would have to work YEARS on a bot capable of traking and stoping spam. By then we would have all ragequit when we could have just tried my idea...and reported the exess.

HATS/GEAR/NBC BODIES
What about the people complaining about the nbc bodies? Yet, you dont want them making lots of hats. Hypocritical much? Sure they promised it, but its one of the main reasons that they get bc buyers. -_- They need food on the table and tix/robux isnt gonna buy it. Bc revenue is. So stop complaining, buy BC, save, or make a good place. A seperate team is making the hats anyways so complaining to shedletsky, Mr.Doombringer etc. isnt helping us and its just clogging their inbox. Suggesting updates to uservoice (that have nothing to do with "stop making hats/gear" or a "hat/geart suggestion post") would be better use of your time.

TROLLS
What about the trolls? Instead of ignoring them and reporting them and let it get cd'ed we feed the troll, bump it and then complain to roblox as a result of our own actions.

EXPLOITS
And what about the exploits? Its simple. Make scripts that block people who have mass points over a short period of time. KICK SCRIPTS WHAT HAPPENED TO THOSE? And if all players are kicked there would be only one player left to report with a screenshot. Report and BAM! And there are other ways if you can script. (You can make tons of security to fit your needs) And if you can't you can simply take exploit protection scripts from free models. YET, we sit and complain.

UPDATES
AND WHAT ABOUT THE UPDATES!? The terrain generator isn't laggy and i have an 06 computer. If its laggy change settings and/or delete junk files. Stamper tool whas the biggest complain ever. Everybody hated it. BUT it helped us in three ways we ignored. First it blocked people on solo mode from copying so only "hackers" could acually copy. SECOND it prevented noobs who can't build from abusing free models. Even though some places are still copied, notice how unlike in 10' everything isnt an obby, feed the noobs or survive the bawls? It acually PROMOTED SCRIPTING AND WELL BUILT PLACES because they couldnt copy or take an entire place from free models. And last people who cant script can at least begin to comprehend the tools before they acually try to learn as if they were taking their baby steps. Studio is still there so it's not the end of the world. If you don't want to use it stop complaining and open up that big button on your start menu that says roblox studio. Also, Roblox is acually working on ways to insert 10x more bricks and they're making water and after that, they go after dynamic lighting.

CONTESTS
We all think that they are free modeled pieces of junk. But if we told roblox to only allow veterans to vote, and made it so you have to play the place for at least ONE MINUTE, free modeled garbage wouldnt win. And on top of that, because nobody wants to try and fix it it broke. Roblox is moving on because nobody seems to care. Yet here you are once again COMPLAINING.

NOOBS RUIN BUILDING GAMES
First of all you know this and you know due to technical reasons it cant be stopped. ( Mass deletes and if you script so you cant delete other players stuff they can spam undeletable bricks) So it ends up just plain boring and you end up chatting it up in the end. Plus its mostly build to survive anyways. So therefor you shouldnt play them if your gonna complain. You can still make/play those games just know the risks.

RULEBREAKERS
If you see someone acually breaking a LISTED rule in the report section when it comes up then report. You all complain about a broken report system but you ignore the thousands of false reports they get. Also one day might be because they only broke it once -_- You would be mad if you got a 1 month ban especially on a false report. False reports are indeed ONE problem here that roblox needs to do something about. Also we need to stop sending thousands of reports on one troll. We need ONE person to report to everyone that this was reported and then close it. After that there wont be so many reports and then the system wont be gridlocked anymore and those mods can FINALLY go HOME for once. If they had to work until all the reports are gone they would have been working for 4 years straight and counting.

SUMMARY
Its time to step up and try to solve our own problems instead of sitting and waiting for roblox to solve everything. The comunity and the way they're acting is the heart of the problem and everybody is guilty of feeding it at some point. Obama can't solve all our problems especially scince there are polictical barriers and people who expect to be babied. Same here exept political is changed to financial problems. So stop complaining and lets BUILD as a community the way we want to. AND IF YOU'RE GONNA SUPPORT YOU HAVE TO AT LEAST GIVE EFFORT TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN. ITS EASIER SAID THAN DONE. IF YOUR NOT GONNA SUPPORT I FEEL SORRY YOU DISAGREE,BUT ITS TRUE. ALSO IF YOU HATE CAPS THATS A PERSONAL PROBLEM THAT DOESNT HELP ANYONE,AND I CAN'T HELP YOU BECAUSE ITS ALREADY BEEN POSTED.


Grantox out. Im not making a tl;dr. You don't yell it at a book or wikipedia do you?
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grantox is not online. grantox
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15 May 2012 08:35 PM
If you use threaded view its much easier to read.
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ShadowL is not online. ShadowL
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15 May 2012 08:35 PM
Your suggestion...?
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grantox is not online. grantox
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15 May 2012 08:36 PM
Look for the my suggestion section in the post. Trust me, its there.
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ShadowL is not online. ShadowL
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15 May 2012 08:38 PM
>My SUGGESTION
That you should read this and then fomulate (or think) about what i want the community to do. Im suggesting we do what im saying.

It's not your idea; you're asking for others.
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grantox is not online. grantox
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15 May 2012 08:41 PM
It is indeed my idea, but im asking for help along with it so that the idea will grow and then it can happen. If your just looking for an update, then your continuing to post has no use.
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ShadowL is not online. ShadowL
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15 May 2012 08:43 PM
But the initial is?
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grantox is not online. grantox
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15 May 2012 08:44 PM
Did you read it ALL? Then you should know. This is one thing that i can't make short.
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grantox is not online. grantox
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15 May 2012 08:45 PM
The summary helps too though....
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jaceyjace is not online. jaceyjace
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15 May 2012 08:47 PM
S&I is too help roblox with suggestions.
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grantox is not online. grantox
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15 May 2012 08:48 PM
Yes congratulations you have posted the exact sme thing shadow did. Read the posts above and then read the whole thing.
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ShadowL is not online. ShadowL
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15 May 2012 08:51 PM
1) Not all role-playing games have ODers*
*I have not been to one

2) Report button. Bots are a double-edge sword.

3) N/A

4) N/A

5) It can be made harder to exploit; there will be some leftover.

6) It's the players' choice.

7) N/A

8) N/A

9) False reports are ignored.

10) Not all of it is solvable by the community.
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Aleezybaby0 is not online. Aleezybaby0
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15 May 2012 08:57 PM
You just wasted your time.

This isn't a suggestion, this is a complaint. Boycotting games isn't going to help anyone. You aren't Rosa Parks, sit back down.

Get-Out.
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grantox is not online. grantox
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15 May 2012 08:57 PM
False reports are ignored but my point is that if we stop making so many false reports then the people would be able to get to real reports. Its not completely solvable by the community but if we try we can deal with the rest. Players do indeed have some voice in the updates but my point is that they should stop complaining. Also most od'ers do hang out at roleplaying places. Some elsewhere, but mostly roleplay.
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ShadowL is not online. ShadowL
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15 May 2012 08:57 PM
The community is too diverse.
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grantox is not online. grantox
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15 May 2012 08:59 PM
Aleezybaby this shows me that you have not read the post nor do you have any intention to. Also this is not a complaint and rosa parks was standing (ironic) agianst an unfair law and was indeed trying to change a community like i am now. so until you read the post and understand what i am trying to do you will be ignored.
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grantox is not online. grantox
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15 May 2012 09:01 PM
diversity never stoped america did it? (ok, it did slow it down ALOT but races are a completely different matter) in the end it prevailed and so can we.
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ShadowL is not online. ShadowL
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15 May 2012 09:05 PM
Roblox =/= America
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grantox is not online. grantox
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15 May 2012 09:07 PM
Well roblox does have an economy and citizens, problems and a whole lot of other things so technically this can be treated like a country.
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ShadowL is not online. ShadowL
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15 May 2012 09:08 PM
Not on accords of function.
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grantox is not online. grantox
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15 May 2012 09:10 PM
umg. ALL im trying to do is change the community for the better. But scince nobody seems to care an all their posting is nothing but unhelpful things that dont count because they didnt read it im just going to ignore everything above besides shadows feedback and my comment on it.
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jacob726 is not online. jacob726
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15 May 2012 09:13 PM
... Just to state this: While this is going to be considered by some people to be spam or that it does not belong here. This is the only place it could truly fit in.
And these are actually really good suggestions and ideas that would help improve ROBLOX, not by the mods work, but by the community joining hands like we had back in 2008, and maybe a little in 2009 and beforehand, and solving our own problems rather than asking the mods and devs to do it for us.
@OP; You have just won this thread. Oh, and a box of 9001 Cookies made by a company called 1337. =P
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122334shadow is not online. 122334shadow
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15 May 2012 09:20 PM
You and me have pretty much the same point of view.

Except for the contest system. I just think that roblox should make it impossible to place free models at all...

But this is the internet we're talking about. The only place where people will purposefully ruin, and find loopholes, to everything on said internet, because they know no harm will come to them in real life. That's why community works in real life situations.

I would love for us all to realize how stupid we're being, and work together... but I dont see it happening any time before roblox eventually shuts down.
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grantox is not online. grantox
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15 May 2012 09:20 PM
thank you jacob. you seem to be the only person to undrstand. maybe my ideas arent the best ways be if we have thousands of minds we can create a new era of roblox.
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grantox is not online. grantox
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15 May 2012 09:23 PM
its true but, we can fix some problems at least to the point where its bearable. also if roblox didn't want us to use free models in contests they would have blocked it. but if we tried we could vote for things other than free modeled garbage.
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