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L3GabeL4 is not online. L3GabeL4
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03 May 2012 01:06 AM
WHy dont they just make C++ gui from the start? I mean why even bother with console? Why? It only makes things harder on the actual programmer learning Cpp.
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myrkos is not online. myrkos
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03 May 2012 01:07 AM
Because that would make it less portable. How possible is it to have a GUI that works equally on a PC and a phone and a calculator?
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L3GabeL4 is not online. L3GabeL4
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03 May 2012 01:08 AM
well gui elements are already in those, so it should work unless the creator of C++ is stupid.
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L3GabeL4 is not online. L3GabeL4
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03 May 2012 01:09 AM
look all im saying is I got this book called 'Learn C++ in 24 hours' and it didnt teach me shiz about C++ in 24 hours.
i want to create games, not stupid console applications
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lordmarine12 is not online. lordmarine12
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03 May 2012 01:10 AM
C++ was originally made by the Chinese hackers to hack websites and computers.
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myrkos is not online. myrkos
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03 May 2012 01:11 AM
You need to learn the structure and syntax and how it works before making games. Saying that something will teach you C++ in 24 hours is stupid.
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myrkos is not online. myrkos
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03 May 2012 01:12 AM
>C++ was originally made by the Chinese hackers to hack websites and computers.

I hope you're joking. It was made by a Danish dude for systems programming.
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L3GabeL4 is not online. L3GabeL4
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03 May 2012 01:13 AM
Danish? No wonder its stupid, some idiot probably made it in a different language
look i learned all about pointers, and that should b eneugh to start creating games like Call of Duty, right? nope because C+= wants to make it complicated.
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lordmarine12 is not online. lordmarine12
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03 May 2012 01:17 AM
"I hope you're joking. It was made by a Danish dude for systems programming."
Yes, originally it was. But about two weeks after the release, Chinese hackers did indeed alter the language a bit. It's usually used as a hacking language now.
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L3GabeL4 is not online. L3GabeL4
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03 May 2012 01:19 AM
lol ,and I thought myrkos was the C++ master around here.

*lord I crown thee master of C++ in scripters*
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myrkos is not online. myrkos
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03 May 2012 01:19 AM
>Yes, originally it was. But about two weeks after the release, Chinese hackers did indeed alter the language a bit. It's usually used as a hacking language now.

Idk, but it's highly unlikely. Now it's mainly used as a language for game engines and other large scale projects, not hacking.
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JulienDethurens is not online. JulienDethurens
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03 May 2012 01:19 AM
"I got this book called 'Learn C++ in 24 hours' and it didnt teach me shiz about C++ in 24 hours"

Lol.

How could you learn C++ in 24 hours? That must have been a joke, lol.
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lordmarine12 is not online. lordmarine12
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03 May 2012 01:20 AM
"Idk, but it's highly unlikely. Now it's mainly used as a language for game engines and other large scale projects, not hacking."
Maybe in your country, but in the US, UK, AUST, Greece, and China it has been mainly used as a hacking language.
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L3GabeL4 is not online. L3GabeL4
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03 May 2012 01:23 AM
Sam's Teach Yourself C++ in 24 Hours (2nd Edition)

its no jojke, its the real deal. but when i finish reading the book i couldnt remember anything so i burnt the book, then i burnt the biblbe (but thats a diff story).

WHY IS IT SO HARD? C++ should be easy but instead its a bad language. VB.net is a lot hard, but at least it proportional.
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JulienDethurens is not online. JulienDethurens
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03 May 2012 01:27 AM
Just - uh - learn Python.

In some years, processors will be so fast that Python will be as fast at C++ is today and C++ will just be too fast for our needs.

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I wish what I just said would have been true.
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JulienDethurens is not online. JulienDethurens
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03 May 2012 01:28 AM
btw, I just said Python as an example of an high level language.
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lordmarine12 is not online. lordmarine12
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03 May 2012 01:28 AM
Python is a horrible language, you might as well just go with Lisp, because it's already 15x better.
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L3GabeL4 is not online. L3GabeL4
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03 May 2012 01:32 AM
Okay, is there a book on python to learn it in like 10 minutes? I need money so im going to code the new call of duty game
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JulienDethurens is not online. JulienDethurens
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03 May 2012 01:33 AM
Well, web applications, then. With HTML, CSS, JavaScript and WebGL.

You can do anything with these. Slow, you say? Haha. Right now, they're fast enough to do whatever you'd want to do, and, in some years, they'll be even faster.
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L3GabeL4 is not online. L3GabeL4
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03 May 2012 01:35 AM
no, because html is a bit difficult and css is just ugly, really ugly. why not you teach me c== then we can both code call of techkans,and make millions?
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JulienDethurens is not online. JulienDethurens
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03 May 2012 01:37 AM
What about we make a revolutionary version of tic tac toe, instead?
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L3GabeL4 is not online. L3GabeL4
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03 May 2012 01:37 AM
sure as long as we sell it for lots. what should we make it in?
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DrHaximus is not online. DrHaximus
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03 May 2012 01:39 AM
1) You don't learn C++ in 24 hours.

2) You have to learn to walk before learning to run.
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JulienDethurens is not online. JulienDethurens
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03 May 2012 01:39 AM
"what should we make it in?"

huh

paper and pencil
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lordmarine12 is not online. lordmarine12
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03 May 2012 01:42 AM
C++ has taken me two years to feel comfortable. I wouldn't even consider myself a C++ programmer until 1 year.
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