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mage11561
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| 01 May 2012 08:38 PM |
Yeah, I know.
I just use the current terms for them,
even though I'm slowly becoming a "Liberal" as the country's policies change from what I would want. |
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doggie99
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| 01 May 2012 08:40 PM |
| Santorum and Perry almost made me a Liberal. |
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pepper0
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| 01 May 2012 08:58 PM |
Libs want Authoritarianism and Slavery
Conservatives want individual liberty and self ownership |
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thepit44
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| 01 May 2012 08:59 PM |
@Pepper
Wrong!
Authoritarian has nothing to do with conservative/liberalism. I myself am an authoritarian conservative. |
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pepper0
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| 01 May 2012 09:01 PM |
That makes you Liberal.
You cant escape the facts. |
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mage11561
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| 01 May 2012 09:01 PM |
| I'm part of the American Party. |
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thepit44
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| 01 May 2012 09:04 PM |
Ever look at a political chart? There are 4 sides: Right, Left, Athoritarian and Libertarian. I am clearly not a liberal, bu am authoritarian.
Gingrich, Romney, Santorum, they are all authoritarian, Paul is the only libertarian one. |
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pepper0
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| 01 May 2012 09:08 PM |
Paul is the only true conservative out of the 5.
The next one would be Chris Christie, but he isnt running for President. |
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thepit44
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| 01 May 2012 09:09 PM |
Yet you support Romney...
Authoritarian=/=Liberal Libertarian=/=Conservative |
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| 01 May 2012 09:10 PM |
Add br0bama to the authoritarian.
Also, where is pepper getting the slavery line from? Clearly, libruls dun want slaves of any kind.
Abr0ham Lincoln comes to mind. |
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pepper0
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| 01 May 2012 09:14 PM |
Liberalism demands Affirmative action and then giving minorities free housing, food medical care just so they can do their bidding and that is SLAVERY
Conservatism sees everyone as individuals and can go through life just as easy as anyone else. |
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| 01 May 2012 09:23 PM |
>Minorities given free food etc. For votes Nien, twas never a liberal policy to give free stuff to any class of minority, only to the poor, who need it. Is giving the disadvantaged a chance slavery? |
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pepper0
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| 01 May 2012 09:34 PM |
This also includes all peoples.
As Ronald Reagan Said, we are against forcing all citizens regardless of need into a compulsory government program. |
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| 01 May 2012 09:41 PM |
Poor ≠ All people. We aren't forcing anyone anywhere, welfare is completely optional, as is the free housing.
And why do you worship Reagan like a God, he didn't do much, except raise taxes and raise spending, two things conservatives usually abhor. |
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pepper0
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| 01 May 2012 09:47 PM |
Reagan made taxes Flatter and decreased spending. I dont know where you got that raise spending idea from.
The only true free health care that exists is NON PROFIT HOSPITALS which takes up half of america's hospitals. Its the closest thing to a charity, since it only bills those who can afford it and doesnt bill those who cant afford it. It is better than the government doing it because the government is terrible at doing this type of stuff. All it does is make their authority more important than the freedoms of the people. |
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mage11561
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| 01 May 2012 09:49 PM |
Governmentally controlled systems are horribly ineffiecient.
Note: The DMV.
3 hours to deal with like 100 kids on line trying to take a 10 minute test.
If that was a private company, they'd get fired.
So the private company would work harder to not get fired, so the system would be more efficient.
But since it's the government that directly controls it, they can't get fired so what's the point in trying? |
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pepper0
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| 01 May 2012 09:50 PM |
| Remember the story I shared when I got a new passport in France? |
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mage11561
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| 01 May 2012 09:51 PM |
Not really, no.
TELL IT AGAIN GRANDPA PEPPER |
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pepper0
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| 01 May 2012 09:56 PM |
Passport got stolen first hour in paris, the next day we went to the embassy.
You could tell the embassy was built in the '80s because it was never renovated since then.
the computers there had extremely slow internet, and only aloud you to go to sites that the embassy wanted you to go to. Then we had to wait 4 hours for our new passports to be made. The applications where pages and pages long.
For some reason, all the trash cans where taped shut
Also keep in mind, these are AMERICAN representative in the Embassy, not French workers, so dont blame them.
There where 3 security checkpoints that where ten feet apart and the guards where complete and total jerks.
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thepit44
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| 01 May 2012 10:02 PM |
| Tell him about the French police. |
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mage11561
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| 01 May 2012 10:04 PM |
| TELL ME ABOUT THEM FRENCHIES PEPPER |
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| 02 May 2012 11:00 AM |
Liberal isn't autoritan. Conservative isn't libertarian. |
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Yobobo10
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| 02 May 2012 11:05 AM |
| Every single ideology's title is manipulated to somebodies advantage. |
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