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Re: Why Anarchic-communism will NEVER work.

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DrCaneJr is not online. DrCaneJr
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16 Apr 2012 10:38 PM
According to the idea's of Anarchist communists, the system without a doubt is a "work or starve policy". Anarchic-commies tend to try and get around this by saying they would kick them out. If you kick that person out you are no longer treating them as an equal and your "commune" is an utter failure. Anarchist-commies, when asked about property, tend to get defensive. When you ask if you can have something that they treasure to that you are their equal, they declare it personal property. Personal property basically is private property, but it has a fancy name now so Anarchic-commies can claim it isn't breaking the fundamentals of Marxism are anarchy. Many also believe that the system of communes will be used through out the WHOLE nation that is currently in an Anarchic state. All it would take is 9 to 10 well equipped and trained raiders to attack this commune and if someone dies, they are no longer your equal so according to Anarchic-communism, you are now better off shooting yourself rather than distributing EVERY supply EQUALLY. As an example I will use rice, if you have 100 grains of rice and I have 99, you have more resources than I therefore it is no longer communism and it is no longer equal therefore your society just collapsed.
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AnCapMighty is not online. AnCapMighty
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16 Apr 2012 10:39 PM
tl;dr
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DrCaneJr is not online. DrCaneJr
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16 Apr 2012 10:40 PM
That was a paragraph of writing? Boy I feel bad for your reading teacher.
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TyroneJones is not online. TyroneJones
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16 Apr 2012 10:41 PM
Therefore...

Anarchism is basically a reset to society where governments vanish and the population will eventually work its way into organization and yet another government system. Communism is a piece that honestly doesn't fit the puzzle of human mentalities. So... yeah.
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AnCapMighty is not online. AnCapMighty
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16 Apr 2012 10:44 PM
> That was a paragraph of writing? Boy I feel bad for your reading teacher.

Nope. Because I'm not sure I would trust a child on politics.

And because I'm lazy.
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DrCaneJr is not online. DrCaneJr
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16 Apr 2012 10:45 PM
You have two main groups of Anarchy, Anarchic harmonic and Anarchic Chaotic.

Then you different kinds of anarchists that fit into each sub-group, like Anarchic-Syndicalists who believe in supporting the working class, Anarchic-"Markets" who support the free market during Anarchy, and of course you have Anarchic-Barbarians, people who believe in a combination of it all and/or total chaos.
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DrCaneJr is not online. DrCaneJr
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16 Apr 2012 10:46 PM
>Nope. Because I'm not sure I would trust a child on politics.
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I see this kid's mom has let him stay up later.

>And because I'm lazy.
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You don't say.
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pepper0 is not online. pepper0
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16 Apr 2012 11:12 PM
Isn't Anarchic Chaotic, Anomy?
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CheeseForEveryone is not online. CheeseForEveryone
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16 Apr 2012 11:57 PM
Actually, Anarcho-Communism, was in place in some parts of spain during the spanish civil war, and worked perfectly until Franco's regime took over.

The more you know.

And Pepper, Anarchy means Chaos to some, but in the political sense, Anarchy does not mean without order, it means without leaders.

I used to be agentrok. -It's not easy being cheesy.
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sil4nc3r1223 is not online. sil4nc3r1223
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17 Apr 2012 12:14 AM
^^
Then how will the society function? Humans need someone to look up to.
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CheeseForEveryone is not online. CheeseForEveryone
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17 Apr 2012 01:22 AM
@Sil4nc3r

We don't need figureheads, we need goals, like mars colonization.

I used to be agentrok. -It's not easy being cheesy.
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sil4nc3r1223 is not online. sil4nc3r1223
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17 Apr 2012 05:08 AM
^^
yes we do. We would be like a lost kid in a supermarket without someone to look up to and guide us.
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DrCaneJr is not online. DrCaneJr
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17 Apr 2012 06:16 AM
Some were, they aren't anymore.
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pepper0 is not online. pepper0
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17 Apr 2012 06:25 AM
This is why I believe in limited government, but not no government. Government is good at doing big things, like NASA, the army, establishing justice, somethings that the people cant do on their own.

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TheRealCommander is not online. TheRealCommander
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17 Apr 2012 06:27 AM
@dr

Could you rewrite that wall, i find it hard to understand, also i doubt anarcho communism would go down to someone having one sock more ololol no anarcho communism anymore.
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thepit44 is not online. thepit44
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17 Apr 2012 06:42 AM
Let's separate this...

Anarchy, nor communism will never work.
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PayloadOfPens is not online. PayloadOfPens
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17 Apr 2012 08:30 AM
Anarchy simply won't work

Anarcho communism won't work in bigger comunities.
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CheeseForEveryone is not online. CheeseForEveryone
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17 Apr 2012 08:48 AM
Anarcho-Communism or Anarchy couldn't work now, because of society's persistent attitude that capitalism is the only option, when there is better alternatives.

And Sil4nc3r, the important people in an anarchist society would guide the people without bureaucracy and useless figureheads, the people need a goal, and they will work towards that goal just fine. The populace is ignorant now, but once educated they will no longer need leaders, it's the next step in society's advancement.

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PayloadOfPens is not online. PayloadOfPens
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17 Apr 2012 09:55 AM
Nope, it is because human's greed and other attidutes we just cannot disolve.
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sil4nc3r1223 is not online. sil4nc3r1223
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17 Apr 2012 10:52 AM
@Cheese
You think it will be easy educating a whole population? There are only a handful of anarchic communists and thousands of ignorant people.
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CheeseForEveryone is not online. CheeseForEveryone
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17 Apr 2012 11:04 AM
@Payload

Humans aren't horrible from birth, horrible people are the result of circumstance. If we weren't raised to believe that greed is normal and we cannot help it, we will become greedy and accepting of it too.

@Sil4nc3r

The people will be smart enough to make their own conclusions when it becomes clear that Anarchism is the way forward, not backward.

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PayloadOfPens is not online. PayloadOfPens
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17 Apr 2012 11:53 AM
It's basic human mentality, not everyone likes to be equal with everyone else, there will be people who will want authority and that is a big flaw.
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DrCaneJr is not online. DrCaneJr
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17 Apr 2012 03:02 PM
Government simply always fails, power corrupts. To say Anarchy will never work is the same as me saying Government will never work.
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wreton34 is not online. wreton34
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17 Apr 2012 03:02 PM
Who's the special kid who thought it would work?
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DrCaneJr is not online. DrCaneJr
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17 Apr 2012 03:09 PM
>History and Grim
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