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Re: Israel detains pro-Palestinian activists

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Candymaniac is not online. Candymaniac
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16 Apr 2012 07:08 AM

Jerusalem (CNN) -- Israeli authorities stepped up security at Tel Aviv's Ben Gurion airport Sunday as hundreds of pro-Palestinian activists were due to arrive in the country in a "fly-in" campaign to protest Israel's policies in the West Bank.
Some activists were barred from entering the country for refusing to promise not to engage in disorderly conduct, but Israel did allow some other activists to enter, Israeli officials said.
By Sunday night, 60 activists had been refused entry at the airport, Israeli police spokesman Micky Rosenfeld said.
Nine protesters were arrested for attempting to disrupt order at the airport, Rosenfeld said. He said there were 500 police officials there.
Mazin Qumsiyeh, a spokesman for the "Welcome to Palestine" campaign, said that more than 1,000 uniformed and plain clothes security officers were at the airport, in what he called a sign of "unprecedented Israeli hysteria and paranoia." Authorities "violently arrested" the nine activists, he said.
Activists who were sent home were being given a letter sarcastically thanking them for "choosing to make Israel the object of your humanitarian concerns."
The letter says protesters could have focused on "the Syrian regime's daily savagery against its own people," or the actions of Iran or Hamas, but instead "chose to protest against Israel, the Middle East's sole democracy," according to a copy posted on Twitter by Ofir Gendelman, a spokesman for Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.
"We therefore suggest that you first solve the real problems of the region, and then come back and share with us your experience. Have a nice flight," the letter says.
Organizers of the "fly-in" event said some 1,500 to 2,000 activists mainly from Europe, the United States, and Canada would board civilian flights for Israel in order to make their way to various events in Bethlehem and other West Bank cities.
By Sunday night, only three activists who flew in had made it to Bethlehem from the Tel Aviv airport, they said. Another 20 had entered a few days before after crossing a land bridge between Jordan and Israel.
One of the activists who made it through said 27 other people who had flown with her from Lyon, France, had been detained. The woman, a French citizen named Tanya, declined to provide her last name because she said she feared repercussions from the authorities.
Activists told reporters Sunday that the event would be a success, no matter how many people participated.
"Our success is measured in terms of the media publicity the Welcome to Palestine campaign made in shedding light on the true fate of Israel's dictatorship and apartheid," organizer Abdel Fatah Abu Srour said.
Another organizer criticized Israel's letter.
"I tell Israel they are contradicting themselves about their so-called democracy when they are deporting and detaining people who are coming to visit Palestinians," said Amira Mussalam.
Activists said they were trying to draw attention to what they claim are prejudicial Israeli border policies that force many international visitors coming to Palestinian areas to lie about their destinations.
"We believe, like prisoners in prisons, we are entitled to receive visitors and Palestinians under Israeli occupation are also entitled to receive visitors," Qumsiyeh said. "So we are entitled to get international visitors to come and visit and show solidarity with us to learn about the situation, but Israel chooses to prevent these people from coming."
On Sunday, he said a number of activists had reached the West Bank, but did not say how many.
The activists who were denied entry on Sunday were from Portugal, Canada, Switzerland, France, Spain and Italy, said population and migration authority spokeswoman Sabin Hadad.
Last year, organizers staged a similar event and Israel authorities detained and deported dozens of activists who entered the country.
On Tuesday, Israel's public security minister, Yitzhak Aharonovitch called activists "provocateurs" and told Israeli news portal Ynet that they would "be dealt with in a determined and quick way," adding that "If they arrive in Israel they will be identified, removed from the plane, their entry into Israel will be prevented and they will be moved to a detention facility until they are flown out of Israel."
To that end, Israeli officials have been in touch with airlines and provided them with lists of people who are forbidden from entering the country.
"Usually airlines don't allow these people to embark, because then they have to cover the expense of the return flight," said Israeli Foreign Ministry spokesman Yigal Palmor.
"What we did last year is we had a list of number of people who have been banned from entering the country in the past, and others who will be banned now because they have openly declared that they will come here to disturb public order in one way or another," Palmor said.
Palmor said arriving passengers who are denied an entrance visa have the right to appeal but could face three days in detention before their hearing.
On Sunday, one activist in the United Kingdom said she was in a group of 30 passengers who were blocked from boarding a flight from Manchester to Tel Aviv.
"Israel was able to stop us, British passport-holders, and Israel has the power to extend its apartheid to other countries and borders," activist Norma Turner said.
Qumsiyeh insists the event is entirely peaceful in nature and suggested that Israeli authorities were over-reacting.
"The Israeli internal security is paranoid and is turning the airport into a military camp. They want to arrest the activists and are calling us provocateurs and demonstrators as they always do" Qumsiyeh said. "The activists are coming peacefully and will visit the West Bank and help us build a community school and then they will go home with no problems, Israel is creating the problems and not us."


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http://edition.cnn.com/2012/04/15/world/meast/israel-aerial-flotilla/index.html?iref=allsearch

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CommanderRoblock is not online. CommanderRoblock
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16 Apr 2012 07:59 AM
Israel also delayed all recent flights to stop peace activists from entering the country.

Lots of tourists got stuck in Tel Aviv and missed their flights.
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Candymaniac is not online. Candymaniac
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16 Apr 2012 09:49 AM
I think they're concerned that they might lose power. =/

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16 Apr 2012 10:00 AM
Or the world will find out that they're the ones declining peace talks with The Arab Peace League.
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PayloadOfPens is not online. PayloadOfPens
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16 Apr 2012 10:41 AM
That's just stupid.
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Ryplayer is not online. Ryplayer
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16 Apr 2012 10:53 AM
Israel has a disgusting government.
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thepit44 is not online. thepit44
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16 Apr 2012 10:59 AM
They refused to agree not to do disorderly conduct. If you actually read this, you would know. Also, it's Iran declining peace. Have you not noticed than Israel worked with Iran under the shah? If they didn't wan peace, wh would they have worked with the previous government. Amadinejad calls Israel cancer, but he wans peace. That makes complete sense.
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thepit44 is not online. thepit44
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16 Apr 2012 11:08 AM
All they need to do is say they won't do disorderly conduct. If they are still nt allowed thru, then Israel is wrong.
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Candymaniac is not online. Candymaniac
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16 Apr 2012 12:05 PM
... They're doing it in an orderly conduct - no violence, just people broadcasting their voices in a protest and a movement. Israel isn't letting them through, even sending letters saying:

"Why don't you focus on Syria and the real problems of this region, after, then you could focus on Israel."

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16 Apr 2012 03:26 PM
"Why don't you focus on Syria and the real problems of this region, after, then you could focus on Israel."
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Good question. Assad has slaughtered 9000 people and yet we're talking about protestors being arrested in an airport.

...?
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16 Apr 2012 03:34 PM
Good question. Assad has slaughtered 9000 people and yet we're talking about protestors being arrested in an airport.
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So it's not news worthy?

Hey guys! Let's make news only about big things! Let's not make news about crashes, accidents, protests and events unless over 9000 dead and so on!
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16 Apr 2012 04:13 PM
Hey guys! Let's make news only about big things! Let's not make news about crashes, accidents, protests and events unless over 9000 dead and so on!
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Sudan, Somalia, Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, etc are more important than protesters being arrested.
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16 Apr 2012 04:18 PM
Hey guys! Let's make news only about big things! Let's not make news about crashes, accidents, protests and events unless over 9000 dead and so on!
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There's no need to ridicule what I said. We can talk about whatever we want, but the singular focus on Israel is absurd.
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PayloadOfPens is not online. PayloadOfPens
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17 Apr 2012 07:43 AM
>Implying we are only focusing on Israel.
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17 Apr 2012 07:46 AM
There's no need to ridicule what I said. We can talk about whatever we want, but the singular focus on Israel is absurd.
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Yeah guys! See! All the threads on WWC are only about Israel! No thread about Sudan or Syria or Libya or any other country or subject!






Sudan, Somalia, Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, etc are more important than protesters being arrested.
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And we're not talking about the ones you mentioned?

We can, and will talk about all the issues, not only just the worst ones.
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17 Apr 2012 08:49 AM
I've said this several times before, and I'll say it again. "I do not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."

I used to be agentrok. -It's not easy being cheesy.
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Romney2012 is not online. Romney2012
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17 Apr 2012 10:34 AM
Yeah guys! See! All the threads on WWC are only about Israel! No thread about Sudan or Syria or Libya or any other country or subject!
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Singular doesn't mean it's everything we talk about. It just means there's an unusually high level of discussion about Israel, which is absolutely true. Israel is condemned for detaining protestors, even though every other country in the world has done the same and much worse. It makes no sense.

This isn't frontpage news. It's slightly more credible than when the media covered Casey Anthony.
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Ryplayer is not online. Ryplayer
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17 Apr 2012 10:49 AM
Israel has a system of apartheid, just as South Africa did.
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Candymaniac is not online. Candymaniac
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17 Apr 2012 11:00 AM
I believe Israel is trying to take away Palestinian's voices so they could stay quiet whilst other countries are in the spotlight.

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17 Apr 2012 11:02 AM
You cannot seriously believe that. Arabs in Israel have full equality and human rights. They have the right to join the military, run for public office, vote, do whatever a Jew can. Israel has Arab members of the Knesset.

To call Israel an apartheid state is an insult to every black that was oppressed under South African apartheid.
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Candymaniac is not online. Candymaniac
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17 Apr 2012 11:04 AM
Well, I don't think Israel has the kind of level of Apartheid that South Africa had, but they had a low level Apartheid, not major.

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Romney2012 is not online. Romney2012
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17 Apr 2012 11:05 AM
How is it apartheid if Arabs have complete equality?
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Candymaniac is not online. Candymaniac
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17 Apr 2012 11:06 AM
He's saying that:

Palestinians are under Apartheid, and the Israelis are controlling it.

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Romney2012 is not online. Romney2012
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17 Apr 2012 11:08 AM
What? The Palestinian territories have their own autonomous governments.
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17 Apr 2012 12:17 PM
Singular doesn't mean it's everything we talk about. It just means there's an unusually high level of discussion about Israel, which is absolutely true.
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And you think that all the threads here are anti-Israel? Check out who makes the most Israel threads before blaming us for making them.



Israel is condemned for detaining protestors, even though every other country in the world has done the same and much worse. It makes no sense.
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Hey guys! This happens everywhere in the world, lets not therefore make any news of it! Also because this incident is happening in a totally normal country with no international politics related to it! This country has had not any discussion about its politics before. It's totally normal and ordinary country, and no one ever speaks about it!






This isn't frontpage news. It's slightly more credible than when the media covered Casey Anthony.
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Yet the WWC was filled with casey anthony.
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