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Re: Why do people consider socialism a political ideology?

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PWNZERKNITE is not online. PWNZERKNITE
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13 Apr 2012 04:18 PM
It is not.

It just add's group management to a government or organization.

Hell market socialism is just an improved version of capitalism.
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14 Apr 2012 03:53 PM
bump
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wreton34 is not online. wreton34
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14 Apr 2012 03:53 PM
this should be sticky'd
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pepper0 is not online. pepper0
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14 Apr 2012 03:56 PM
Socialism is still a dead system anyway, so it really doesn't matter.

The Free Market is the only thing that works.
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wreton34 is not online. wreton34
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14 Apr 2012 03:57 PM
PEPPER YOU'RE A MORON



LOOK AT EUROPE
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EpicWinMatt2 is not online. EpicWinMatt2
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14 Apr 2012 03:57 PM
>Implying Europe is working
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wreton34 is not online. wreton34
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14 Apr 2012 04:00 PM
>Implying anywhere but China is working
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14 Apr 2012 04:00 PM
Socialism is the basis of the free market system.

Unadulterated Capitalism would be Barter town. Everyone working individually with individual skill's.

An example is that little man in mad max who was the only one with the knowledge and skill to run barter town's power.
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EpicWinMatt2 is not online. EpicWinMatt2
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14 Apr 2012 04:08 PM
>Implying China is working
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wreton34 is not online. wreton34
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14 Apr 2012 04:09 PM
>Implying it isn't
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EpicWinMatt2 is not online. EpicWinMatt2
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14 Apr 2012 04:10 PM
>Implying it is
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Abandonedbank2 is not online. Abandonedbank2
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14 Apr 2012 04:11 PM
Ladies ladies, your both buetiful, go make me a communist sandwich.
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pepper0 is not online. pepper0
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14 Apr 2012 08:36 PM
Ok, you will get that in ten years.


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Abandonedbank2 is not online. Abandonedbank2
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14 Apr 2012 08:36 PM
YES!
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pepper0 is not online. pepper0
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14 Apr 2012 08:43 PM
You will get it in the afternoon since your doctors is in the morning.
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lafosse44 is not online. lafosse44
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14 Apr 2012 09:08 PM
The entire world has to take part in making the sandwich, for we are all equal.

Also, America is way more functional than china.
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14 Apr 2012 09:13 PM
Therefore, only social equality can work. Including no matter race, language, opinions, or what makes you who you are is equal before the law.

Economic equality only exists in an even playing field where everyone has equal opportunity.

Economic equality does NOT include redistribution of wealth or government planed economy because that interferes with the people

the government should not see the people as a whole, but rather as individuals.
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14 Apr 2012 09:27 PM
Implying China is working

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China isn't a socialist country.
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14 Apr 2012 09:28 PM
the government should not see the people as a whole, but rather as individuals.

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Interesting you say that, since you can only justify capitalism on a humanitarian level if you look at the people as a whole.

Look at individuals, and you'll see the unfortunate consequences of structural unemployment.
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14 Apr 2012 09:28 PM
China is a capitalist country in all but name.


But without question, it is still a police state
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14 Apr 2012 09:30 PM
Mahpizza

I looked every where in the streets of New York, Philly, Washington DC, Chicago and it is very rare to see a homeless person or a person without a job.

In London, I saw 1 to 2 people without a job every 2nd block
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MahPizzaIsHere is not online. MahPizzaIsHere
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14 Apr 2012 09:35 PM
The jobless rate in Britain is 8.1%. (October 2011)

Apparently their jobless people get out more.
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lafosse44 is not online. lafosse44
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14 Apr 2012 09:39 PM
@pepper

Ever been to wall street?
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MahPizzaIsHere is not online. MahPizzaIsHere
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14 Apr 2012 09:40 PM
To compare, we're at 8.2% a few months later.
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pepper0 is not online. pepper0
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14 Apr 2012 09:41 PM
What I do think is good though that people usually do is form CHARITIES which people confuse to be socialism but its NOT

Socialism involves the government TAKING your money and supposedly 'giving' to others. And when I mean by others, I mean the members of the government, which it always does.

Charities are formed by PEOPLE that want to share their own money by their own decision and give it to those who really need it, to those who need help.

Now a way to solve the unemployment is to implement a flat tax on income and capital gain.

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