Celestus
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| 07 Apr 2012 03:36 PM |
A discussion thread, in which you give the name of two clans and explain why you think one is better than the other.
Reasons must be given, and just plain insults will be ignored e.g. 'it sucks'.
You may respond to another's post on whether or not you agree, disagree - reasons.
------------------------------------- UAF > X-101st.
UAF is better because is has a more justified system - Most decisions are left to the greater majority of the clan, rather than the leader. The clan is built up on a number of friendships and bonds. The atmosphere is chilled and there is a great sense of enjoyment within the clan. The egg hunt at sapphire is a great example of how UAF enhances enjoyment and community amongst its members.
The X-101st however is quite the opposite. The clan is built upon a bunch of high ranks, who are more interested in self gain and control than the good of the members. LordVade keeps a hierarchical control of the group, running it like a tyrant to fund his collectibles. High ranks can be earned simply upon reputation (XxshayexX, LadySerenity, xRainingSlayerx) all got high ranks upon entry. |
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| 07 Apr 2012 03:38 PM |
| X-101st is sadly not what it use to be, I must agree that the current way highranks is chosen is less than admirable. There are some vets that I have faith in to keep it up and running though. |
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Celestus
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| 07 Apr 2012 03:39 PM |
Yeah agreed Major.
It was much better back in 09/10. When there was the loyalist high ranks (you, elite, mafiahost, silentfox) who LordVade would choose due to their contribution towards the clan, rather than their money/gender. |
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Celestus
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| 07 Apr 2012 03:42 PM |
| Sometimes I become fond of the Clan & Guilds forum, then I remind myself of the reasons in which I always leave it. You have idiots like hacker1leo who will just post stuff of no meaning, reason but just as they say 'looking for likes'; seeking attention. |
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| 07 Apr 2012 03:44 PM |
"Sometimes I become fond of the Clan & Guilds forum, then I remind myself of the reasons in which I always leave it. You have idiots like hacker1leo who will just post stuff of no meaning, reason but just as they say 'looking for likes'; seeking attention."
Actually sweetie, I want a higher post count. |
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| 07 Apr 2012 03:47 PM |
And just blame me. I've tried being "mature" and starting decent discussions like this.
Never got a single decent reply. |
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Celestus
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| 07 Apr 2012 03:48 PM |
Why do you want that?
As a figure of achievement but no use. Basically as a means of seeking attention. I understand there is nothing wrong with achieving a pointless goal, but if you wish to do this, I recommend not doing it through the means of spam as it is a reportable offence. |
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Celestus
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| 07 Apr 2012 03:49 PM |
| Yet you feel the most appropriate response to solving a problem is to join the problem, mastermind.... *facepalm* |
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| 07 Apr 2012 03:50 PM |
"pointless"
Life is pointless. Education. Pointless. Everything-- pointless.
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| 07 Apr 2012 03:50 PM |
| Celestus what was your account name before this one? |
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Celestus
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| 07 Apr 2012 03:51 PM |
Oh great, we have a nihilist.
Well if this is your opinion on life, why play Roblox? |
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Celestus
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| 07 Apr 2012 03:53 PM |
Why not? I'm not a nihilist. I value life. I was just arguing your argument. It depends on what you do and don't value. |
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| 07 Apr 2012 03:54 PM |
| Oh you're Emall, I thought it was you, couldn't remember though... |
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Celestus
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| 07 Apr 2012 03:55 PM |
| Well no, I am saying that a post count is a means of seeking attention, it stands no other value. It is pointless, unless that is what you are willing to gain from it. Which you already stated you are not looking to seek attention, however I doubt this to be the case. |
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| 07 Apr 2012 03:55 PM |
VS>FEAR VS is better because it's more organized and disciplined.
FEAR is basically a fan group with all of Sonics minions and kissups. |
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| 07 Apr 2012 03:55 PM |
I take that back. I am a nihilist...just not really... There.
You get me? |
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Celestus
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| 07 Apr 2012 03:58 PM |
Yes,
I 'get' you. I have established that you are a mere spammer seeking attention and popularity. |
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| 07 Apr 2012 03:58 PM |
"Well no, I am saying that a post count is a means of seeking attention, it stands no other value. It is pointless, unless that is what you are willing to gain from it. Which you already stated you are not looking to seek attention, however I doubt this to be the case."
I don't need attention. To you, it has no value. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. |
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| 07 Apr 2012 04:00 PM |
@Celestus
And you are a rude know-it-all >_>
The audacity to insult me based off of your ignorance. Pathetic.
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| 07 Apr 2012 04:02 PM |
White Box PMC > n!faculty
White Box PMC: Lead by an expirenced clan leader, with good members.
n!faculty: Celestus is cool, but its kinda hard to only accept "smart" members when their leader is an idiot. |
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| 07 Apr 2012 04:03 PM |
Optivian Empire: Because I own it.
Empires>Any other government; Emperor of the Optivian Empire |
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| 07 Apr 2012 04:12 PM |
John's Cobras > Team Domino
Both of these groups are considered to be the bane of 'superclans'. Many have tried arguing in favor of one or the other by saying "Team Domino is at LEAST better than JC", or vice versa. However, I joined both for a relatively short period of time just for the sake of comparison, and have come up with this logic.
Team Domino:
Due to the vast majority of members that have joined because of free VIP and simply the prospect of being in a group owned by a game maker whom many of them idolize, there is little to no past clan experience with most of the members. This means that it is Team Domino's job to set the foundation for building their members' clan experience- something that many high ranks themselves are unable to do, because they're new as well, or simply can't handle having to teach everything step-by-step. This leads to a generally low-trained member population, many of which have been taught no skill other than finishing and obstacle course.
There's also the fact that PiePerson50 (McKramer, I think his new account is called) hasn't done much in terms of helping the clan either, other than supplying the bare necessities (uniforms, base/weapons, high ranks), thus making the clan's "Meet a famous person!" appeal dwindle even lower, along with the fact the VIP offered for joining the group is fake, making it a group lacking in dedication and honesty.
John's Cobras:
This clan is a lot older than TD, and even though it hit a period of inactivity when STHXX held it, there was still a foundation, along with several members dedicated enough to help with its improvement. Pspjohn's retrieval of JC was then followed my mass slander advertising, which ruined the clan's reputation of decency, and quickly turned it into a haven for those who were jealous of successful front and second page clans. But, these people at least had SOME clan experience, seeing as they had to have learned (or at least heard) about other superclans to hate them. That, along with the fact Psp and his high ranks actually took the time to train members personally, makes them already militarily better off than Team Domino.
However, this still did not make them better than the superclans they were up against, and after many, many, many defeats at their own bases and a lack of attacks being dealt out by them, overall moral in the group dropped, high ranks broke their oaths of dedication and fled, leaving them with the image of tactical failures, which led to a slight decrease in overall popularity, once the realization hit that they would never achieve their goal of defeating the other superclans.
There are, of course, many other points you could argue on about these two clans, however, I feel these are the ones most widely acknowledged by most of the C&Ging population, so I limited my post to these few.
"I trust you can put off bleeding to death for just a while longer?" ~Moo~ |
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