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Re: In your opinion is human cloning ethical?

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jhano12345 is not online. jhano12345
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15 Mar 2012 10:53 PM
I think it is, it could help a lot of people by growing organs ideantical to the persons own.
Also I wouldn't mind haing a clone of myself that means you have a friend who agrees with you on everything and if you get in an accident your clone could donate an organ and just grow it back.
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mage11561 is not online. mage11561
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15 Mar 2012 10:56 PM
Your use of your clone is so unethical it hurts.

Growing organs, sure,

growing people, no.
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jhano12345 is not online. jhano12345
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15 Mar 2012 10:58 PM
What about couples who cannot conceive and desperately want children. The baby could be conceived in the labratory and then inserted into the women.
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mage11561 is not online. mage11561
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15 Mar 2012 10:59 PM
Adoption, there are many children in need of a family.
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jhano12345 is not online. jhano12345
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15 Mar 2012 11:03 PM
It's not that simple. Some parents want their own children. I don't really see what's so bad about it, my clone could help me if I got in an accident.
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mage11561 is not online. mage11561
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15 Mar 2012 11:04 PM
He's a human too, it's unfair to him that he's your slave, because if you get in an accident, he must die so you can be healed.

Unfairness to the extreme.

That violates basic human rights.
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jhano12345 is not online. jhano12345
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15 Mar 2012 11:09 PM
I wouldn't just want him for that. Clones would make great friends for elderly people with no family. I would not treat him as a slave, can you even grow singular organs if you take someones DNA you must clone the entire person. Cloning animals is also benneficiant to humans, we could make enough healthy cows to feed an entire country with cloning.
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mage11561 is not online. mage11561
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15 Mar 2012 11:10 PM
Just because an animal is cloned, doesn't mean you don't need to feed it.

A baby calf won't do much for feeding people, gotta fatten it up so it'll actually nourish people.

And if you'd just be using your clone as an organ donor, why not just clone the individual organs rather than cloning humans for slaughter?
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DrCaneJr is not online. DrCaneJr
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15 Mar 2012 11:13 PM
The organs need a constant flow of blood which carries oxygen and nutrients otherwise the organs would shut down.

On the flip side, you have to keep the clone alive for at least 18 years which is no easy task. Especially if you have to keep the organs 100% mint.
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mage11561 is not online. mage11561
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15 Mar 2012 11:14 PM
You don't need a human body to do that.

We can easily supply oxygenated blood artificially, and do it currently.
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jhano12345 is not online. jhano12345
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15 Mar 2012 11:14 PM
I said I wouldn't just use him for that.
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DrCaneJr is not online. DrCaneJr
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15 Mar 2012 11:18 PM
>You don't need a human body to do that.

We can easily supply oxygenated blood artificially, and do it currently.
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It costs more money than splicing in a cell nuclei from the cell donor then planting it in an egg and putting it in a mom.
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mage11561 is not online. mage11561
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15 Mar 2012 11:19 PM
False.

20 years of feeding and clothing said child until their organs are ripe for harvest?

Besides the fact that is sickeningly unethical, it's expensive.
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DrCaneJr is not online. DrCaneJr
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15 Mar 2012 11:21 PM
>False.

20 years of feeding and clothing said child until their organs are ripe for harvest?

Besides the fact that is sickeningly unethical, it's expensive.
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The development is much cheaper which is what I said. Until it is born it will be far cheaper than creating an organ system.

That is debatable, some say it is, others say it isn't.
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mage11561 is not online. mage11561
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15 Mar 2012 11:23 PM
Either way, cloning a person for slaughter violates like every human right.
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DrCaneJr is not online. DrCaneJr
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15 Mar 2012 11:25 PM
Human rights in the West mean nothing to the East. Do you think China would care about Human Rights?
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mage11561 is not online. mage11561
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15 Mar 2012 11:27 PM
China ≠ whole Eastern world

And China is a disturbing country.
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DrCaneJr is not online. DrCaneJr
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15 Mar 2012 11:29 PM
North Korea, Japan, Russia, Iran, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Vietnam, etc.(Besides Russia and Japan, these are countries that would want it)

The reason I used China is because it is one of the few Asian countries with the tech to do it.
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mage11561 is not online. mage11561
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15 Mar 2012 11:31 PM
Don't think China has those technologies.
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DrCaneJr is not online. DrCaneJr
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15 Mar 2012 11:32 PM
They are far ahead of America in stem cell research.
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tomato12 is not online. tomato12
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15 Mar 2012 11:33 PM
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mage11561 is not online. mage11561
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15 Mar 2012 11:33 PM
Which kind? There are two types you know, two very different types.

Embry0nic and adult.
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CommanderRoblock is not online. CommanderRoblock
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16 Mar 2012 01:53 AM
Cloning is unnatural and could have negative effects on humanity.
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Candymaniac is not online. Candymaniac
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16 Mar 2012 06:04 AM
True dat.

Cloning is not natural, and may cause unknown undesirable effects.

"Knowledge talks, wisdom listens."
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CommanderRoblock is not online. CommanderRoblock
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16 Mar 2012 08:25 AM
Clones are also just people that look like you.

They aren't exact clones of your personality and the like.
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