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Re: Is it a requirement that libertarians be soulless?

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Jinxy is not online. Jinxy
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04 Mar 2012 09:56 PM
In response to an argument I had about Ron Paul, somebody commented (on the other side) " I don’t like to make generalizations based on political positions, but it seems to be a requirement in the Libertarian movement to be a soulless person?" I feel offended, because this comment is completely biased into thinking that just because I don't believe the governenment should provide for you means I don't have a soul and am an evil person automatically.
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Jinxy is not online. Jinxy
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04 Mar 2012 10:33 PM
Bump.
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jhano1234567 is not online. jhano1234567
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04 Mar 2012 10:38 PM
This thread is undeservin of a bump.
Any way it is not a requirement.
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pepper0 is not online. pepper0
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04 Mar 2012 10:39 PM
If you have a 'soul'

usually it means you are naturally a good person to other people and yourself.
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04 Mar 2012 10:42 PM
I like to think that I am a good person to other people and myself, I just don't believe the government needs to help somebody.
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04 Mar 2012 10:43 PM
I think they do. It's called an opinion jinxy.
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04 Mar 2012 10:45 PM
The government doesn't need to help to help someone if they don't even need it.

Like I said before, Poorness is a state of mind not how much you own.


Government's role is to create an environment so no matter how much you own everyone has an equal chance and achieving their dreams


that is why, by law, we are created equal.
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04 Mar 2012 10:46 PM
I think they should only help those who need it.
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pepper0 is not online. pepper0
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04 Mar 2012 10:46 PM
^derp


Why help someone who doesn't even need it?
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Jinxy is not online. Jinxy
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04 Mar 2012 10:46 PM
"who need it"

How do you determine who needs it?
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pepper0 is not online. pepper0
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04 Mar 2012 10:47 PM
Good question.


One way to find out is the tax rate.

If it is unfair, then change it.
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04 Mar 2012 10:52 PM
Jobless and homeless.
Also I have a question does america have different tax brackets so the poor pay less tax.
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04 Mar 2012 10:54 PM
OHHEELNO

Not since Bush


Bush Set very High taxes for the poor and low for the rich


Wich makes no sense because then the government will get no revenue.


Before that, we had the most ingenious flat tax imposed by Ronald Reagan some 20 years before.
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04 Mar 2012 10:54 PM
In theory, yes Jhano that's how our taxes are supposed to be.
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"Jobless and homeless" Why do they need help?
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jhano1234567 is not online. jhano1234567
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04 Mar 2012 10:56 PM
Becuase they need help.
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Jinxy is not online. Jinxy
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04 Mar 2012 10:58 PM
But why do they need help?
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pepper0 is not online. pepper0
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04 Mar 2012 11:00 PM
A person lives in a cardboard box

he is not homeless.
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04 Mar 2012 11:03 PM
They need help to get a job thus buying them a proper home thus improving their lives.
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pepper0 is not online. pepper0
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04 Mar 2012 11:05 PM
a box is a legit home.


If they want to get a job, let corporations do that. Government should NOT intervene.

Governments are horrible at making jobs.

Let companies do that.
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jhano1234567 is not online. jhano1234567
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04 Mar 2012 11:06 PM
*facepalm*
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pepper0 is not online. pepper0
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04 Mar 2012 11:08 PM
And that is why, America became a superpower within only 130 years since it declared independence.
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jhano1234567 is not online. jhano1234567
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04 Mar 2012 11:09 PM
America is a trillion dollars in debt. But don't worry lots of great empirehave fallen before you, and even if debt doesn't cause it, it will happen. Rome fell why can't america.
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Jinxy is not online. Jinxy
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04 Mar 2012 11:11 PM
Lol, just because you have a trillion dollars of debt doesn't mean you aren't a super power.
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jhano1234567 is not online. jhano1234567
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04 Mar 2012 11:13 PM
America will fall eventually. Everything does someday.
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Jinxy is not online. Jinxy
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04 Mar 2012 11:14 PM
Nobody is debating that, Jhano.
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