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Re: OFFICIAL: The Steel Alliance Defeats the CNSC.

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Vanhelius is not online. Vanhelius
Joined: 09 Jul 2011
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23 Feb 2012 05:56 PM
As of 23:53 UK time, The Steel Alliance announces its victory over the CNSC. This is due to a flase claim by USM, SAS and other CNSC members.

As well as this, USM have exploited at Austratt bases and have admin abused at their own base.


So the best thing to do was obvious. Since the CNSC is claiming a false victory, The Steel Alliance shall.

As you can tell, the CNSC could not cope with the Steel Alliance.

- Chairman Vanhelius.
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badboy392 is not online. badboy392
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23 Feb 2012 06:02 PM
Nice job, Van.

-I love the smell of Napalm in the morning.
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Dralin is not online. Dralin
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23 Feb 2012 06:07 PM
Yayz! :D
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Vanhelius is not online. Vanhelius
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24 Feb 2012 01:31 AM
here was also messages from Austratt saying that USM were exploiting at thier bases. I'm hoping there were screenshots to load up from it.
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matt2703 is not online. matt2703
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24 Feb 2012 02:21 AM
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Vanhelius is not online. Vanhelius
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24 Feb 2012 12:23 PM
@ Matt.

LOL

Reported for false accusations.
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CloseEncounter is not online. CloseEncounter
Joined: 17 Apr 2009
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14 Mar 2012 09:43 PM
As I recently noticed your listing CNSC as defeated, I find it in my best judgement to correct this false accusation.

Following the surrender of Austratt Empire and RSSR, the war which CNSC was involved in, ended with a humble victory for us.

There was no claiming of automatic victory.

You sir, are an arrogant and stuck up individual who looks to far into this game and really needs to calm down. We are here to have fun. You're silly little "crusade" failed.

The CNSC has been thriving since 2009, and will continue inevitably, no matter your claims.

With these matters addressed, I lay to rest the rubbish that has escaped Vanhelius' mouth.

-Chairman Encounter, CNSC
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GeckoGuy456 is not online. GeckoGuy456
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14 Mar 2012 09:47 PM
I wonder. Are the criteria for joining the Steel Alliance living in denial and a perpetuated search for excuses for their own shortcomings? Go ahead. Live in your delusions. Lie to assert your psuedo "supremacy". Continue it for the duration of your lives. See where it gets you.
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Vanhelius is not online. Vanhelius
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15 Mar 2012 02:58 AM
The fact of the matter is that you declared an auto victory over AE and a group who decided to not get involved with the crusade, which if you have a look, it was a SUCCESS, as you have multiple groups on your allies with TVG shutdown, gave us full rights to declare a victory over you.

Also, you declared a FALSE victory over ONE group in the SA and you then go ON to think that you have beaten them ALL.

The facts are as clear as day. i could have even declared a victory eariler due to the ammount of ADMIN ABUSE on the USM's part. The SA HAS defeated the CNSC, I COULD have claimed a victory quicker due to admin abuse from USM AND empty server raids and parts, even a major group of the CNSC, were SHUT DOWN.

The Steel Alliance can easily laugh at the CNSC, trying to defend their "Reputation" of "winning" every war they go into, and they have clearly LOST this one.
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CloseEncounter is not online. CloseEncounter
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15 Mar 2012 04:31 PM
Where have I stated that CNSC has defeated the Steel Alliance?

How were our victories over AE and RSSR false when they both surrendered to us?

How does shutting down empty groups give you rights to declare victory?

How has the SA won a victory over CNSC when it never fought a direct battle against CNSC Forces, besides that of AE and RSSR against USM?

You are the only one claiming false victories here, and with laughable reasons and evidence. We have no reputation of winning every war we've gone into.

You have not "defeated" us in any way shape or form. Have we surrendered? No.

By the fact that you believe that you can declare victory when you've done nothing to achieve it shows true to the fact that you are nothing but a mere arrogant twit tooting his own horn.

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Vanhelius is not online. Vanhelius
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15 Mar 2012 04:39 PM
"Where have I stated that CNSC has defeated the Steel Alliance?"
- When you were told by the USM to do so, I know this for a fact.

"How were our victories over AE and RSSR false when they both surrendered to us?"
- AE didn't surrender. It never did. It agreed to a ceasefire which, in turn, made any warscore between the USM and AE False, the USM and youselves declared a false victory.

- RSSR did not agree to going to war with CNSC and was allowed to stay out.


"How does shutting down empty groups give you rights to declare victory?"
- Explain Hoston Federation then. All groups shutdown by TVG ammount up to achieving one of the aims of the war, to cripple the CNSC.

"How has the SA won a victory over CNSC when it never fought a direct battle against CNSC Forces, besides that of AE and RSSR against USM?"
- TVG vs UMR, RMR, UMRN, USM, etc.
- All SA groups had attacked CNSC member groups at some point during the war, mainly the USM.
- TVG attacked the smaller groups in CNSC, allowing for the CNSC to become more crippled.

"You are the only one claiming false victories here, and with laughable reasons and evidence. We have no reputation of winning every war we've gone into."
- You have no evidence.
- Explain USM then.

"You have not "defeated" us in any way shape or form. Have we surrendered? No."
- You surrendered by claiming an automatic win.

"By the fact that you believe that you can declare victory when you've done nothing to achieve it shows true to the fact that you are nothing but a mere arrogant twit tooting his own horn."
- Have fun in Banland for that.
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Death2day is not online. Death2day
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15 Mar 2012 04:52 PM
Umm ok.
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CloseEncounter is not online. CloseEncounter
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15 Mar 2012 04:54 PM
"Where have I stated that CNSC has defeated the Steel Alliance?"
- When you were told by the USM to do so, I know this for a fact.

And what proof do you have of this?

- RSSR did not agree to going to war with CNSC and was allowed to stay out.

This is false as they declared war on both CNSC and RMR. They were then dispatched shortly by a coalition force from RMR and CNSC after which they surrendered to avoid further complications.

"How does shutting down empty groups give you rights to declare victory?"
- Explain Hoston Federation then. All groups shutdown by TVG ammount up to achieving one of the aims of the war, to cripple the CNSC.

As I remember, Hoston Federation was inactive and was not a major part of CNSC, just an ally. You did not cripple CNSC and I didn't even notice the shutdown signs until I was cleaning the ally list a day or two ago. Also, shutting down empty groups or inactive ones proves nothing but the fact that you were somehow able to take the group if a leader left.

"How has the SA won a victory over CNSC when it never fought a direct battle against CNSC Forces, besides that of AE and RSSR against USM?"
- TVG vs UMR, RMR, UMRN, USM, etc.
- All SA groups had attacked CNSC member groups at some point during the war, mainly the USM.
- TVG attacked the smaller groups in CNSC, allowing for the CNSC to become more crippled.

RMR lost only 2 battles during the war, both to AE and no other "SA" clans. Also, I do not recall any "SA" groups attacking CNSC Members or any reports of this. The main battles were between RSSR and AE v USM and RMR forces. And again I state, CNSC was not crippled at all by any attacks or your shutting down of empty groups. I find this laughable.

"You are the only one claiming false victories here, and with laughable reasons and evidence. We have no reputation of winning every war we've gone into."
- You have no evidence.
- Explain USM then.

What evidence do you have that supports that we have?

As well, USM rightly declared victory following AE's surrender. It was not a peace agreement. HerrKreig was only trying to cover himself by claiming falsities such as "hacking".

"You have not "defeated" us in any way shape or form. Have we surrendered? No."
- You surrendered by claiming an automatic win.

We did not claim an automatic win. We declared the operation a success after RSSR and AE surrendered. Those were the clans we were fighting, if both surrendered, that means the war is over.

If you are so shallow as to claim victory over an Alliance that you have not directly fought a war with, only in passing as you claim you attacked us, which I nor allied commanders have any recollection of I may add, it shows your true character as being arrogant. I am only trying to provide truth and fact here, as I do not like to be tarnished for falsities. If there were mistakes made, I would admit them. In this case, there were not.

"By the fact that you believe that you can declare victory when you've done nothing to achieve it shows true to the fact that you are nothing but a mere arrogant twit tooting his own horn."
- Have fun in Banland for that.

If the Moderators deem my comment to be against the terms of service, I will gladly accept any punishment they wish to don upon me.

In closing, CNSC left the war with honor, dignity and success. We have thrived and grown following the conflict and I am happy to say that it will continue.

Your efforts to cripple and thwart us have proven ineffective.

-CE



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zcole96 is not online. zcole96
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15 Mar 2012 05:02 PM
"even a major group of the CNSC, were SHUT DOWN."

Vanhelius, are you serious? I didn't even know the clan's name until it was brought to my attention. CNSC has only two majour clans in my eyes, RMR, and USM. No more, no less.
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Artia44 is not online. Artia44
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15 Mar 2012 05:04 PM
cnsc claims false victory

steel alliance claims false victory


stop being babies and get over it


you both lost
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Vanhelius is not online. Vanhelius
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15 Mar 2012 05:10 PM
"Where have I stated that CNSC has defeated the Steel Alliance?"
- When you were told by the USM to do so, I know this for a fact.

And what proof do you have of this?
- Enough proof with my alts that are in the CNSC.


- RSSR did not agree to going to war with CNSC and was allowed to stay out.

This is false as they declared war on both CNSC and RMR. They were then dispatched shortly by a coalition force from RMR and CNSC after which they surrendered to avoid further complications.
- Pics or it didn't happen. Simple.

"How does shutting down empty groups give you rights to declare victory?"
- Explain Hoston Federation then. All groups shutdown by TVG ammount up to achieving one of the aims of the war, to cripple the CNSC.

As I remember, Hoston Federation was inactive and was not a major part of CNSC, just an ally. You did not cripple CNSC and I didn't even notice the shutdown signs until I was cleaning the ally list a day or two ago. Also, shutting down empty groups or inactive ones proves nothing but the fact that you were somehow able to take the group if a leader left.
- I won the groups in wars against them.

"How has the SA won a victory over CNSC when it never fought a direct battle against CNSC Forces, besides that of AE and RSSR against USM?"
- TVG vs UMR, RMR, UMRN, USM, etc.
- All SA groups had attacked CNSC member groups at some point during the war, mainly the USM.
- TVG attacked the smaller groups in CNSC, allowing for the CNSC to become more crippled.

RMR lost only 2 battles during the war, both to AE and no other "SA" clans. Also, I do not recall any "SA" groups attacking CNSC Members or any reports of this. The main battles were between RSSR and AE v USM and RMR forces. And again I state, CNSC was not crippled at all by any attacks or your shutting down of empty groups. I find this laughable.
- Laugh all you want, you lost more battles than you think.

"You are the only one claiming false victories here, and with laughable reasons and evidence. We have no reputation of winning every war we've gone into."
- You have no evidence.
- Explain USM then.

What evidence do you have that supports that we have?
- See answer for first part.

As well, USM rightly declared victory following AE's surrender. It was not a peace agreement. HerrKreig was only trying to cover himself by claiming falsities such as "hacking".
- No. AE declared a peace. He never said "AE won" or anything to terms of that.

"You have not "defeated" us in any way shape or form. Have we surrendered? No."
- You surrendered by claiming an automatic win.

We did not claim an automatic win. We declared the operation a success after RSSR and AE surrendered. Those were the clans we were fighting, if both surrendered, that means the war is over.
- No it does NOT. You delcared a flae victory over the Steel Alliance. If you are too dimwitted to notice, there are more than ONE group in an alliance. Defeating one or two groups in an alliance does NOT mean you WIN. I also reitterate that what the RSSR did after it voted against war with the CNSC, is not of my concern.

If you are so shallow as to claim victory over an Alliance that you have not directly fought a war with, only in passing as you claim you attacked us, which I nor allied commanders have any recollection of I may add, it shows your true character as being arrogant. I am only trying to provide truth and fact here, as I do not like to be tarnished for falsities. If there were mistakes made, I would admit them. In this case, there were not.
- I have enough pohotographic evidence of TVG victories and may other victories from other SA groups over CNSC member groups. You cliam with no recollection, then why don't you ask Urban Military of ROBLOX? I believe they are fimiliar with TVG overthrowing their defences easily.
When there is a war declared between alliances, it is not, one or two groups, it is the WHOLE thing. You are clearly not giving the truth or any facts of matter or relevence, you are blurting out things that the USM has tought you to say in defence when the CNSC (Really groups controlled by the USM) declares an auto win and people notice it. Also, I, myself have had a LARGE ammount of Experience with alliance group and I know how they should run and how to make them effective. The CNSC does not seem to be effective enough at mobilising troops to run united group raids againt enemy alliances, or groups, this is inexplicably obvious.

"By the fact that you believe that you can declare victory when you've done nothing to achieve it shows true to the fact that you are nothing but a mere arrogant twit tooting his own horn."
- Have fun in Banland for that.

If the Moderators deem my comment to be against the terms of service, I will gladly accept any punishment they wish to don upon me.

In closing, CNSC left the war with honor, dignity and success. We have thrived and grown following the conflict and I am happy to say that it will continue.

- The CNSC left the war with false honour, no dignity andvery little success. All groups who joined the CNSC are meer bands of pointless people, not proper groups. The Steel Alliance suffered a smash from HerrKreig being hacked and it is recovering to the point that it could easily withstand anything the CNSC could thow at it.

Your efforts to cripple and thwart us have proven ineffective.
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CloseEncounter is not online. CloseEncounter
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15 Mar 2012 05:18 PM
I give up trying to be mature and reason with you. You reserve the right to yours opinions and I to mine. In my opinion, CNSC won against AE and RSSR and completed a successful operation and there is nothing that you can say that will change my mind.

If you wish to flame and continue with your silly crusade, go rightly forward but bear the knowledge that it has had no effect on us, our morale or our honor.

Good day.

-CE
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Vanhelius is not online. Vanhelius
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15 Mar 2012 05:35 PM
CNSC won against AE and RSSR and completed a successful operation and there is nothing that you can say that will change my mind.
- Failed mission.
- You are not just facing AE.
- yet again you fail to realise that the RSSR pulled out before the SA declared war on the CNSC.
- You fail to realise you failed completely.
- You fail to realise that there was an ALLIANCE group attacking you not one group.


If you wish to flame and continue with your silly crusade, go rightly forward but bear the knowledge that it has had no effect on us, our morale or our honor.
- Since when was I flaming?
- I bear the knowledge it did. A large contingent of CNSC groups attacked TVG when it shutdown HF, which TVG mopped the floor with.
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GeckoGuy456 is not online. GeckoGuy456
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16 Mar 2012 06:44 PM
Is the perpetuated reiteration even necessary? I feel like parrots have taken over the Forums. Thesis and antithesis, incessantly being revised, until the entire monologue protracts into a monotonous mess.
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