DrCaneJr
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| 06 Feb 2012 04:45 PM |
| Dang, I will have to look it up tomorrow, I got to teach Taekwondo at 7:30 then take my class after... Ugh long day. |
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Avogadro
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| 06 Feb 2012 04:46 PM |
I did google it and none of it is convincing.
Give me a specific example. I don't need a link. |
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| 06 Feb 2012 04:54 PM |
"On the July 2, 2008 edition of Fox and Friends, co-hosts Brian Kilmeade and Steve Doocy aired photos of New York Times reporter Jacques Steinberg and Times television editor Steven Reddicliffe that appeared to have been crudely doctored, apparently in order to portray the journalists unflatteringly. This occurred during a discussion of a piece in the June 28 edition of The New York Times, which pointed out what Steinberg called "ominous trends" in Fox News' ratings.[87] According to Media Matters, the photos depict New York Times reporter Jacques Steinberg with yellowed teeth, "his nose and chin widened, and his ears made to protrude further." The other image, of Times television editor Steven Reddicliffe, had similar yellow teeth, as well as "dark circles ... under his eyes, and his hairline has been moved back."[88] During the discussion, Doocy called the Times report, written by Steinberg, a "hit piece" ordered up by Reddicliffe.[87] The broadcast then showed an image of Steinberg's face superimposed over a picture of a poodle, while Reddicliffe's face was superimposed over the man holding the poodle's leash.[87] Times culture editor Sam Sifton called the photo that was aired on Fox "disgusting," and the criticism of the paper's reporting a "specious and meritless claim" while denying that it was a "hit piece."[87]"
That's from Wikipedia, I'm looking for the one page I found earlier right now. Just posting that to hold you off for a few minutes.
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| 06 Feb 2012 04:57 PM |
"In April, Fox News's Wendell Goler reported on an Obama question-and-answer session that was cut short to make it seem as if the president wanted a health care system "like the European countries." In fact, he was just restating a question -- he went on to say that he opposed such a system."
That one comes from "The Ten Most Egregious Fox News Distortions" on the Huffington Post. If you believe FOX, I'm sure that will satisfy you.
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DrCaneJr
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| 06 Feb 2012 05:01 PM |
| True, I'm sure I could also find plenty of articles like that on CNN and ABC. |
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Avogadro
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| 06 Feb 2012 05:03 PM |
"On the July 2, 2008 edition of Fox and Friends, co-hosts Brian Kilmeade and Steve Doocy aired photos of New York Times reporter Jacques Steinberg and Times television editor Steven Reddicliffe that appeared to have been crudely doctored, apparently in order to portray the journalists unflatteringly. ____ Yes, I've heard this one before. If you look at the picture, it just looks like it was badly fitted and made slightly darker. It didn't look intentional at all. In fact, what Media Matters DIDN'T mention, is that they also made his hair darker, as opposed to gray.... which is considered MORE attractive! It's clearly just some formatting error.
"In April, Fox News's Wendell Goler reported on an Obama question-and-answer session that was cut short to make it seem as if the president wanted a health care system "like the European countries." In fact, he was just restating a question -- he went on to say that he opposed such a system." ____ It's a fairly common error. Remember, it's just interns and people that put the video stuff together. There's no reason to see anything sinister in it. News stations, campaigns, websites- have all done this. |
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Avogadro
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| 06 Feb 2012 05:06 PM |
| And, Obama DOES support a universal healthcare system. He has said so in the past. It's not like what Goler was saying was inaccurate. |
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DrCaneJr
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| 06 Feb 2012 05:08 PM |
| It's true, didn't he even say he did on live TV? |
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| 06 Feb 2012 05:09 PM |
>-snipped article- Yes, I've heard this one before. If you look at the picture, it just looks like it was badly fitted and made slightly darker. It didn't look intentional at all. In fact, what Media Matters DIDN'T mention, is that they also made his hair darker, as opposed to gray.... which is considered MORE attractive! It's clearly just some formatting error.
So you get proof, and then you say "Oh, just a formatting error, nevermind!", nevermind the fact that if you see a photo of the other guy, it's very clearly edited. In the original, he has a normal hairline and such, but in the Fox version, he has dark bags under his eyes, and his hairline has been quite obviously edited, as it's now farther back, making him look really creepy.
>-snip- It's a fairly common error. Remember, it's just interns and people that put the video stuff together. There's no reason to see anything sinister in it. News stations, campaigns, websites- have all done this.
"Oh, it's just an error, nothing to see here. Everyone does it!"
When a company is passing itself off as being a news station, and says it reports facts, even errors that distort the truth are something to be ashamed of, so no excuses. If they make a mistake, they should air a statement saying that they've made a mistake, along with something along the lines of "We mistakenly forgot to ad 'herpa derp hurr' to the end of this quote"
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Avogadro
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| 06 Feb 2012 05:14 PM |
So you get proof, and then you say "Oh, just a formatting error, nevermind!", nevermind the fact that if you see a photo of the other guy, it's very clearly edited. In the original, he has a normal hairline and such, but in the Fox version, he has dark bags under his eyes, and his hairline has been quite obviously edited, as it's now farther back, making him look really creepy. ____ Do you have reading comprehension? Yes, I've seen the picture. But there's nothing about it to suggest it was intentionally made that way. The color and sizes changes in the picture were consistent all throughought the picture. That means the teeth, and the nose, and whatever else, were not specifically targetted.
When a company is passing itself off as being a news station, and says it reports facts, even errors that distort the truth are something to be ashamed of, so no excuses. If they make a mistake, they should air a statement saying that they've made a mistake, along with something along the lines of "We mistakenly forgot to ad 'herpa derp hurr' to the end of this quote" ___ Hey, buddy, when you start dealing with hundreds of photos and videos a day, come back. Until then, you can't speak with a position of authority. You see, what these people do is search transcripts to specifically target videos which would be appropriate to use. The specific quote was out of context, yes, but its message was consistent with what Obama has said in previous years. |
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Avogadro
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| 06 Feb 2012 05:15 PM |
"We mistakenly forgot to ad 'herpa derp hurr' to the end of this quote" ___ They do. That happens all the time. After an ad break they usually correct any errors if made. I remember a few days ago, they had a chart with the size of Israel in it in sq miles, and it was WAY off. It took about 5 minutes for them to correct themselves. |
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| 06 Feb 2012 05:26 PM |
>Do you have reading comprehension? Yes, I've seen the picture. But there's nothing about it to suggest it was intentionally made that way. The color and sizes changes in the picture were consistent all throughought the picture. That means the teeth, and the nose, and whatever else, were not specifically targetted.
The real question is, do you? Seriously, read the part about hairline guy.
>Hey, buddy, when you start dealing with hundreds of photos and videos a day, come back. Until then, you can't speak with a position of authority. You see, what these people do is search transcripts to specifically target videos which would be appropriate to use. The specific quote was out of context, yes, but its message was consistent with what Obama has said in previous years.
If you try to run a news station and report facts, you should be equipped to at least avoid egregious examples like that.
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