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Re: NBC, why u cryin?

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Firebrand1 is not online. Firebrand1
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06 Jan 2012 10:23 PM
If you intend on raging below, please do, (I love a good argument) but read my whole post first so you don't look stupid. I put this in S&I because this is where I see all the NBC suggestions to remove BC and such. I included an idea at the end so this post isn't off topic :3

Let me sum up the basics:

1. ROBLOX is a free building game with an option to use real world money to buy in-game benefits, mostly in the form of Builder's Club (BC).

2. ROBLOX updates and items are often limited to BC only (usually catalog items, place configurations, etc.)

3. Many of the free players of ROBLOX, known as No Builder's Club (NBC), believe that they are treated unfairly, and "deserve" or "have a right to" some or all of the benefits BC members get.

They simply don't. NBC benefit-demanders severely overestimate their importance to ROBLOX. They have no leverage at all. The argument almost every NBCer likes to throw at me is: "What about the ads? We see millions of ads that earn ROBLOX money!" Yes, that's true. ROBLOX does gain money from allowing NBCers to be advertised to. Here's why that is irrelevant:

Banner ads are not something that must be suffered through. There is no effort on the player's side to have them on their screen, and earn ROBLOX that money. Nearly every one of those ads is completely ignored anyway. Should an advertising company give things to every person driving down a road with their billboards on it?

NBCers, it's time to start looking at what ROBLOX has spent countless hours working on, and given to you for FREE, and stop complaining about what they didn't give you. You still get the core of ROBLOX and much more. Quit cryin about it.

!!!!Suggestion: Make a pie hat :3

What do you think?
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eletro2000 is not online. eletro2000
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06 Jan 2012 10:24 PM
support, i like pie.
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CrasyTrex is not online. CrasyTrex
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06 Jan 2012 10:25 PM
Most of it is true I agree but the offsite ads should probably be checked to make sure they are appropriate for children. Some of them are just inappropriate but other then that I support.
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Paramore2 is not online. Paramore2
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06 Jan 2012 10:28 PM
Neither BC or NBC will ever be correct. I'm sorry, that's jst howI see it. NBC will keep beggining for stuff no one cares about and BC will keep flaming them and making fun of them. It's a cycle that will never stop.
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Firebrand1 is not online. Firebrand1
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06 Jan 2012 10:28 PM
@eletro, inorite?!

@crasy, agreed, when I was NBC I saw some pill ads for adult purposes... I hope that has changed. If it hasn't it definitely needs to.
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gking19 is not online. gking19
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06 Jan 2012 10:29 PM
>They simply don't. NBC benefit-demanders severely overestimate their importance to ROBLOX. They have no leverage at all. The argument almost every NBCer likes to throw at me is: "What about the ads? We see millions of ads that earn ROBLOX money!" Yes, that's true. ROBLOX does gain money from allowing NBCers to be advertised to. Here's why that is irrelevant:

>They simply don't. NBC benefit-demanders severely overestimate their importance to ROBLOX. They have no leverage at all.

>They have no leverage at all.

Actually, yes they do. Although this is essentially impossible, if all the NBCers on ROBLOX left ROBLOX, ROBLOX would lose pretty much all of the incoming BCers. What were BCers before they became BC? NBC. Remove the NBC, and you'll never get new BCers.
_~Less qq, moar pew pew.~_
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CrasyTrex is not online. CrasyTrex
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06 Jan 2012 10:30 PM
Yeah they fixed most of the ads but their still are some.... luckily all I get is shoe ads =D
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Paramore2 is not online. Paramore2
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06 Jan 2012 10:32 PM
Therefore NBC won't get BC because they don't like the BC members and ROBLOX ads more BC Only features making NBC rage even more. BC gets mad that NBC do this so they keep there BC for there features. It's sort of a bad marketing to me but, it's there choice, just more conflict. (Continuation of my last post)
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shadowlord221 is not online. shadowlord221
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06 Jan 2012 10:33 PM
Support I would like a pie hat. Also I am currently none bc was but not anymore. I don't care that I'm not bc I'll get it back just not right now. My personal issue with NBC is that once NBC buy a limited item they get stuck with it... NBC already don't make an off for cool things so basically NBC are mad because we don't make anoff robucks to look as cool as bc members. Make limited items sellable for all and just make bc limited and I'll be happy. I truest don't can if other NBC don't agree with me let them complain about bc not being free and just let them stay poor and un cool looking. Your robloxians looks matter almost all NBCs got no look at all but the noob look some do but that's becouse they can make really cool places.
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CrasyTrex is not online. CrasyTrex
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06 Jan 2012 10:34 PM
Actually that is saying that all NBC people do not like BC members I just do not like it when they make fun of me for being NBC other then that I am perfectly fine....
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Firebrand1 is not online. Firebrand1
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06 Jan 2012 10:38 PM
@Gking, that's another argument that I've seen a lot - stuff like "we'll leave and you'll be sorry"

Truth is, it'll never happen. NBCers could never organize something like that. Even if they could, there would be new players to replace them. ROBLOX is a game. People won't not play a game because they don't get every feature. That has been proven time and time again by many online multiplayer games.
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gking19 is not online. gking19
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06 Jan 2012 10:42 PM
Fire obviously you're blind. I distinctly said that it's essentially impossible for that to happen.

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Firebrand1 is not online. Firebrand1
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06 Jan 2012 10:44 PM
Gking, I skim. I miss things. Besides, that's a point that I should be using. Being essentially impossible to organize, it can't be used as real leverage. So like I said, NBC don't have leverage.
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CrasyTrex is not online. CrasyTrex
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06 Jan 2012 10:46 PM
Yes you are true but a lot of NBC people just do not care we play and we go on the forums and we talk what else could we want really?
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killer228 is not online. killer228
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06 Jan 2012 10:48 PM
We already have a pie hat, and from the looks of it, this is not a suggestion.
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Firebrand1 is not online. Firebrand1
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06 Jan 2012 10:48 PM
I know crasy, I'm not saying all NBC would use leverage. Just that they don't have any (as a whole at least)
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theopfor is not online. theopfor
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06 Jan 2012 10:49 PM
"NBCers could never organize something like that." The same would go for BC, if that statement were true. Plenty of online hacking successes, were actually organized in plain sight. Apparently the hacking group Anyonomous (Firefox removed spellcheck, dangit), plans everything on social networks like Twitter. People could easily do this, and evade moderation.

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Firebrand1 is not online. Firebrand1
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06 Jan 2012 10:56 PM
@theopfor, so are you arguing plausibility or probability? Because yes, theoretically they could ALL get on twitter and leave at the same time. But it is extremely improbable. You'd have to have an infinite amount of time for something like that to happen. And I'm sure "Anyonomous" wasn't a huge population of kids playing a building game.
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theopfor is not online. theopfor
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06 Jan 2012 11:08 PM
I'm not saying that a bunch of people were gonna go get on Twitter and DDoS the site. I am saying, that if anybody really wanted too, they could very well get a bunch of people together to complete the task, without ever having to get off the site to communicate.

Besides, you could probably find out everything you need to know to make a homemade nuke on the Internet, so it very well would be kids. Also, there are a lot of intelligent people on this website.

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Megacooldude100 is not online. Megacooldude100
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06 Jan 2012 11:10 PM
Bro.........
Yes.
I agree with you but here's my opinion:
ROBLOX is a game. People want to play it. NBC doesn't get that much to play (IN COMPARISON they do have......alot to play from what people make but they dont get to make there own games and such) so they riot about not getting the crap and there to lazy to buy BC.
(I dont want to buy it because I honestly think this is a bit of a childs game like 1-10 or 11 at the most I just play for amusment) BUT if you look at how much OBC gets and how little NBC gets, if they don't think about the payment its easy to riot. But I DO THINK NBC should get more than 1 place.
How many does regular BC get, idk but im sure its a bit more than NBC. TBC is 15. OBC IS 100! and NBC gets one.........
YES BC DO KEEP ROBLOX RUNNING
but it's a game.
Supposed to be fun to everyone.
In other words BC gets what they deserve, and NBC should shut up and play the game. If roblox ever DOES give them more crap than great, good for them.
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crazyjonny106 is not online. crazyjonny106
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06 Jan 2012 11:21 PM
agreed. also lol were all arguing against nothing, kinda calm. this time i dont have a migrane ;)
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Firebrand1 is not online. Firebrand1
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06 Jan 2012 11:35 PM
@theopfor, Well first of all, not many (if any) would really want to. Secondly, "a bunch" of people hardly describes the population of many thousands of NBCers that Roblox has. No one would care if "a bunch" of people left.

If that was all it took to make a working nuke, I'm sure we wouldn't be discussing it. Your example doesn't even come close to proving your point. Someone being able to find instructions for a nuke online doesn't make it more probable for kids to organize a boycott, however intelligent some of them may be.
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spiritlego is not online. spiritlego
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06 Jan 2012 11:37 PM
Of course the post owner has BC. Of course...
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Firebrand1 is not online. Firebrand1
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06 Jan 2012 11:44 PM
@spiritlego, That's irrelevant. My points are still valid. I could say, "Of course the one who points it out is NBC. Of course..." But that's pointless, because it doesn't matter.
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ChaosEspeon is not online. ChaosEspeon
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06 Jan 2012 11:52 PM
@Firebrand

To an extent, this is right. Though, the title makes it seem like it was being aimed towards all NBC. As I see it, part-way through the post you mentioned "complainers". Hopefully, that was your target in this whole post.

Oh, and I like the idea.


@People complaining about inappropriate off-site advertisements

I hope you know the advertisements that appear are more-so based off of whatever your computer visits.

If you're getting a lot of shoe ads, maybe you need to calm down with shoe-related things on your computer.



~That awkward when you said moment in your head~
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