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Re: Stricter Moderation ~READ FIRST~

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mikeyman10ash is not online. mikeyman10ash
Joined: 29 Aug 2010
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05 Jan 2012 04:53 PM
VVVVVVVVV

Table of Contents:
1: Bans and Warnings
2: Biased Bans and Reports
3: False Reports
4: Mod Immunity
5: Conclusion

NOTE: Inspired by Alex4897

Bans and Warnings

Seriously, I think the warnings shouldn't be used that much. It's just a way of saying, "We'll let this slide. (for now)". But, see, that's just telling people who get warnings that they can keep doing what they're doing. A little pixelated warning doesn't scare anyone, and I mean ANYONE. Spammer? Ban 'em. Trolling? Ban 'em. Exploiting? Ban 'em. Just hit them with a few hour ban if it's their first time, because warnings just say "You're off the hook 100%".

Biased Bans and Reports

I really can't blame the mods here. After all, they have NO visual proof that the reported person has done anything. Sure, the reports are reviewed and the chat log is checked. What if there's someone silently ODing? I mean, it's possible people! But the worst part is, these reports sometimes come from people who just don't like us. They'll report you for mean behaviour or something. Once again, the report is checked, but it's bots who give out the warnings and bans.

False Reports

OK, so this is when someone reports you for something you didn't do.

Scenario:

Person 1: -beats Person 2 in sword fight-
P2: Hacking n0b.
P1: I don't hack.
P2: Oyus you do!
P1: It's called skill, bro.
P2: No, it's called hacking.
P1: -.-
P2: Hi YT! I present to you, "[Player name here]: No-Life Hacker".
P1: Oh gawd I'm on YT?
P2: -reports P1 for hacking-

See? They have no proof, but once the bot sees the word "exploit" it will usually dish out a warning. I understand the mods have other things to do, but at least check the moderation bots every once in a while. I advise about once every 2 hours.

Mod Immunity

See, this isn't common, but sometimes mods will display an act of kindness to a paying member many players call "Mod Immunity". Basically, the paying member is reported for, say, spamming. MASS spamming. Now, usually they WILL recieve a ban, but sometimes the mods feel leniant and let them off the hook. I think this should stop, because:

A: It shows the member that they can keep spamming
B: It gives them the picture that spamming is OK, and
C: It just encourages them to KEEP doing that.

Conclusion

Mods, I know you're busy and have better things to do. You have lives and families and sometimes you don't really have time for moderating. I respect that, but you need to clamp down on problems a bit quicker, because before you know it, your once great game will turn into a wasteland. It will be worse than now if you don't stop what is happening. I'm not forcing you to do anything. I'm just trying to help you keep this site up so it doesn't crash before it has to.


-mikeyman10ash
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SummerCake is not online. SummerCake
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05 Jan 2012 04:55 PM
Support.
I got banned, and the mods didn't even look at the whole conversation.
They look at ONE sentence... and make a decision.
You have a support from me.
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mikeyman10ash is not online. mikeyman10ash
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05 Jan 2012 04:57 PM
Oh hey summer. What has S&I been like the past few days? =I

Thanks, BTW.
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SummerCake is not online. SummerCake
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05 Jan 2012 04:58 PM
Same old, same old.
Complaints, over-suggestions, flame wars... nothing new so far.
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mikeyman10ash is not online. mikeyman10ash
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05 Jan 2012 04:59 PM
I wonder what would happen if we moved into OT for a while? o.o
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CosimoValuta is not online. CosimoValuta
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05 Jan 2012 05:00 PM
My main has been banned numerous times due to problems like this.
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mikeyman10ash is not online. mikeyman10ash
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05 Jan 2012 05:00 PM
Probably a post-apocalyptic wasteland about "2012". =/
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SummerCake is not online. SummerCake
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05 Jan 2012 05:02 PM
Haha, I got banned twice from OT.
Once again, I got into a flame war, said these... words... and got banned. I think I need to be a little looser these days...
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mikeyman10ash is not online. mikeyman10ash
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05 Jan 2012 05:03 PM
My IQ drops everytime I go to OT. Let's see if I can recover from it. T.T
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killer228 is not online. killer228
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05 Jan 2012 05:03 PM
Warnings are given' out to remind the person that they're breaking the rules.

And, besides, the person might not even know what's against the rules.

False reports are ignored.

Eh, I agree with the BC immunity.

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mikeyman10ash is not online. mikeyman10ash
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05 Jan 2012 05:05 PM
@killer

"to remind"
Too bad the rules aren't up anymore. T_T
"Might not even know"
Same as above
"Are ignored"
I got banned because I was false reported for hacking.
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mikeyman10ash is not online. mikeyman10ash
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05 Jan 2012 05:09 PM
Addition to my idea:

OK, so lots of people are PG'ed. I think I can stop this. See, ROBLOX keeps a record of how often you are banned. My idea is if the PG'er is trying to get you banned, you can rely on this record. So, if the record only has a 1 day'er, and it seems like you are purposely trying to get banned, you can stop the PG'er in their tracks. This record points out to the mods that more bad things happen then they thought.

For example, my record is almost completely clean. I have only ever recieved a one day ban. If it seems as if I'm trying to be banned, BAM, they know that all these complaints about PG'ers are true.

Pros:
It would stop false bans.

Cons:
You have no way of finding out who got into your account.
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CosimoValuta is not online. CosimoValuta
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05 Jan 2012 05:11 PM
Dude it;s VERY HARD to not get banned more than once. It may seem easy but ask anyone who's been on here for a while, and the'll tellyou what I am saying
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mikeyman10ash is not online. mikeyman10ash
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05 Jan 2012 05:22 PM
@Cosimo

I really don't find it that hard. It's only hard if there's some random person who gives you their p@ss. I find it rather tempting to try it out. =/
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pienoah is not online. pienoah
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05 Jan 2012 05:25 PM
Im from ot and i do not aprove of this
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MikkelDude is not online. MikkelDude
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05 Jan 2012 05:25 PM
Support 101%.

..Anyways I think Roblox needs to have a filter that keeps all words blocked that aren't in the dictionary along with inappropriate words. And some exceptions for faces, and maybe a few others.

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mikeyman10ash is not online. mikeyman10ash
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05 Jan 2012 05:31 PM
OGM MIKKELDUDE YOU'RE BACK! =DDDDDDDD
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MikkelDude is not online. MikkelDude
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05 Jan 2012 05:32 PM
I'm not completely back, I just visit here, which I will probably be doing more often since the game I currently have been playing is closing this February. :(
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Milbert23 is not online. Milbert23
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05 Jan 2012 06:06 PM
The "modbots" are a common myth.

What does exist is flawed logic.

If a mod sees a high amount of reports from multiple people about a single person exploiting, and since theres no other way aside from videos to prove it, the moderator assumes "Well, if all these people say he did it, the it must be true!"
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AgentZann is not online. AgentZann
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05 Jan 2012 06:16 PM
I was banned a few days for posting numerous images of Stalin.
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McJukeJR is not online. McJukeJR
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05 Jan 2012 06:24 PM
My main is banned because of nothing because I was supposedly. "Hacking" At a place where you CHOOSE your gear! I had a ghostwalker and a noob reported me because I had no weapon. I tried to tell him but he kept goin'.
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AgentZann is not online. AgentZann
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05 Jan 2012 06:26 PM
Let's face it, the moderation here is awful. I doubt there is anything that will be done about it.
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CrasyTrex is not online. CrasyTrex
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05 Jan 2012 06:50 PM
Agent is right some one that hated me reported my post for spam so I got a warning for it. It said your post was "spam" when it was clearly not.
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