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Re: "The BTMpire destroyed many good clans"

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battleskar2 is not online. battleskar2
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28 Dec 2011 07:01 PM
I was approached today many times by people who claim the BTMpire was a terrible clan and had a terrible leader.

Well I just wanted to shine some light on this subject, even though many of you could care less about the BTMpire's history.

Let's go back. GSC vs BTMpire.

The BTMpire had just been formed, and had just obtained many run down clans. We had plans to restore them. All was going well, and we were at the peak of our times.

Then, UAF and RAT had started to attack APN. And soon the rest of the GSC.

They all claimed they were fighting to "Stop this evil clan from destroying more clans".

But, all these clans were just getting back on their feet. When the GSC attacked the GSC had cut off recruitment, taken leaders, and had destroyed all of these clans. The BTMpire and APN were massively over run by many clans. We could only do so much. Therefor, the clans died. That is why we surrendered. To keep the clans alive, but the damage had been done, and it was too late. The clans were killed by the very people who tried to "Save them" and who "Rescued refugees".

Opinions / Replies are welcomed <3
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Ryanr23 is not online. Ryanr23
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28 Dec 2011 07:01 PM
tr;tr
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battleskar2 is not online. battleskar2
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28 Dec 2011 07:03 PM
If this way tl;dr or whatever, have fun passing high school
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hacker1leo is not online. hacker1leo
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28 Dec 2011 07:03 PM
You speak the disappointing truth.
They only wanted your high ranks and for your empire to break down.
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mage11561 is not online. mage11561
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28 Dec 2011 07:03 PM
wth does tr;tr mean
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hacker1leo is not online. hacker1leo
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28 Dec 2011 07:04 PM
too rong didn't read?
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Reaven is not online. Reaven
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28 Dec 2011 07:06 PM
I have to admit Battle, this is true. BTMpire really did get taken advantage of a lot during that war.
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Xnite515 is not online. Xnite515
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28 Dec 2011 07:06 PM
tl;dr
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Sichu is not online. Sichu
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28 Dec 2011 07:07 PM
tl;r
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arcanewraith is not online. arcanewraith
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28 Dec 2011 07:07 PM
I read it all and wow.

 ♦F.E.A.R Officer arcanewraith♣
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battleskar2 is not online. battleskar2
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28 Dec 2011 07:07 PM
@Hacker,

Also,

Less groups in power = More people in those groups in power.

More people in your group = More power for yourself.
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Edhardy300 is not online. Edhardy300
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28 Dec 2011 07:08 PM
Lol fail. Battle, go cry me a river bro
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bidoof77 is not online. bidoof77
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28 Dec 2011 07:11 PM
to be honest it started out UAF vs APN then UAF called in the GSC to help them so you add all that

VS,UCR,UAF,FEAR,RAT,FC,RSF

Pretty unfair
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Edhardy300 is not online. Edhardy300
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28 Dec 2011 07:14 PM
Exactly.
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Tonitoni is not online. Tonitoni
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28 Dec 2011 07:17 PM
Having many groups owned by one person is never a good idea, as the owner may have a hard time caring for them all. This war made the leader focus on APN, which is the reason the other clans failed.
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battleskar2 is not online. battleskar2
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28 Dec 2011 07:21 PM
@Toni

I see your point.

But, the BTMpire was never really owned by one person.

It was an "Oligarchy"

Or, it was owned by many people.

Bobatheman kept it together and ran the politics and what not, but the admirals and such had lead the clans, which gave them much more individual representation in the BTMpire.
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b3njam1n is not online. b3njam1n
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28 Dec 2011 07:26 PM
LOL, I love this. It's like a conspiracy theory but true
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b3njam1n is not online. b3njam1n
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28 Dec 2011 07:27 PM
And seriously this isn't long at all. Report everyone who posts tl;dr haha
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battleskar2 is not online. battleskar2
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28 Dec 2011 07:28 PM
b3n, i am scared to report them. They might hurt me.
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Tonitoni is not online. Tonitoni
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28 Dec 2011 07:29 PM
@battle
The HRs play an important role, but lets take a look at TRA.
Tonitoni leader=1-4 servers at the main base 24/7
EJ leader=0-2 servers 24/7
Same HRs, different leader, major difference.
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battleskar2 is not online. battleskar2
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28 Dec 2011 07:31 PM
But in a sense, the high ranks were the leader. The clan was spread out under many different leaders in one perspective. This gave the 'People' more chance to get their voice heard and also quick reaction's to war.
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Reaven is not online. Reaven
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28 Dec 2011 07:32 PM
Battle.

Recruitment under Boba: 100s a week

Recruitment under Reaven: 100 in like 4 months (At least until the this week when I learned how to recruit and recruited 150 in like 2 days. )
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battleskar2 is not online. battleskar2
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28 Dec 2011 07:34 PM
Boba had like x10 more clans than you though, which kinda funneled members in the stronger groups of SC, SB and APN. So for the amount of people you have gotten that is impressive.
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Reaven is not online. Reaven
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28 Dec 2011 07:36 PM
Yeah, I legitimately learned how to recruit, and we've been massively increasing the last week. I think if I get all the admirals doing what I'm doing we'll be past 10k members in a few weeks.
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Tonitoni is not online. Tonitoni
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28 Dec 2011 07:41 PM
Well, let's say I want to do something in TRA.
First I have to post on leaders, then have an argument with the other HRs if it is OK.
Then wait for robobuy to log on and say what he thinks.
Then if he says no, it's no. If he says yes, I do it.
Or if it involves him having to do it, then it takes a while.
Or he might just do something that almost everyone dissagrees with, like ruining a project of some sort, demoralising the HRs.

In conclusion having the HRs rule a clan, is much more innefficient than having an active leader do it.
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