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Re: For a 'conservative' David Cameron & The Conservative Party Are Set on Destroying What Little Good This Country Has

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Yobobo10 is not online. Yobobo10
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26 Nov 2011 03:08 PM
Before I go off on one, it is the Conservatives in total control of Government, the Liberal Democrats are powerless, always have, always will in this situation.

Lets start. The BBC, where else in the world can you get as great of a service from a state- run broadcaster? It's one of these things which makes me smile about Britain, because it's just better than anything out there. Fact. So what will these bafoons do? Slash it of course. Now call me a conspiracy theorist, but the sub- human beings that exist in the News Corporation board of directors have been paying the Conservative Party for years, and now they are in power, they take the rights to broadcast programmes like Formula 1 away from the free- to- view market, and more importantly for some, losing the taxpayer's moneys worth from a $400,000,000 investment that was supposed to last from 2009- 2018.

On the note of Murdoch and other Conservative donators, Murdoch is known to be very friendly with the likes of Cameron, and is far from a stranger to the, recently exposed, unlawful practises of Newscorp and the DMGT in Britain. Big Conservative donators are the richest in the nation, most of them don't even pay taxes, yet they are still willing to have their say over the voice of over 60,000,000 people, and create their personal monopolys, crushing thousands of jobs per year.

Next is their economics, THEY ARE SPEAKING OUT OF THEIR ARSE. Simple as. All of their actions have been paralysing to the British economy, they are willing to cut perfectly effective services to the point of collapse. I switch on Newsnight the the day, and what do I see? Some Conservative MP giving a lecture on how Britian needs to be more free market, their solution for it, BREAK DOWN BANKS, how the heck is that a free market? Still in this time of economic austerity, you would think that every possible opportunity to cut would be taken, well apparently not, the Conservatives feel compelled to renew our Nuclear Weapons at the cost of £80,000,000,000, and the education secretary wants to send a Bible to every school in Britain, at the taxpayers expensive, many of these schools were built in the late 40's and are now in an unsafe condition of disrepair, but heck, THEY'VE GOT A BIBLE!

They don't regulate properly, every week, there are reports of elderly being treated like animals in supposedly fine care homes according to government reports, we are promised an enquiry, an investigation, where is the action though? Nothing happens.

Now I'm annoyed.
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FreeLibya is not online. FreeLibya
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27 Nov 2011 01:56 AM
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Warrab is not online. Warrab
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27 Nov 2011 07:17 AM
Lets start. The BBC, where else in the world can you get as great of a service from a state- run broadcaster? It's one of these things which makes me smile about Britain, because it's just better than anything out there. Fact. So what will these bafoons do? Slash it of course.
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There is no compelling reason for the government to be funding media. It should be entirely privatized. In the fiscal situation you're in, you can not afford this stuff.

Next is their economics, THEY ARE SPEAKING OUT OF THEIR ARSE. Simple as. All of their actions have been paralysing to the British economy, they are willing to cut perfectly effective services to the point of collapse. I switch on Newsnight the the day, and what do I see? Some Conservative MP giving a lecture on how Britian needs to be more free market, their solution for it, BREAK DOWN BANKS, how the heck is that a free market? Still in this time of economic austerity, you would think that every possible opportunity to cut would be taken, well apparently not, the Conservatives feel compelled to renew our Nuclear Weapons at the cost of £80,000,000,000,
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I agree. You should cut the nukes.

and the education secretary wants to send a Bible to every school in Britain, at the taxpayers expensive, many of these schools were built in the late 40's and are now in an unsafe condition of disrepair, but heck, THEY'VE GOT A BIBLE!
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Agree.

They don't regulate properly, every week, there are reports of elderly being treated like animals in supposedly fine care homes according to government reports, we are promised an enquiry, an investigation, where is the action though? Nothing happens.
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Even though you may never hear about it, I am sure inquiries do happen. They're just not as interesting to report in the news.
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History0 is not online. History0
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27 Nov 2011 08:00 AM
"There is no compelling reason for the government to be funding media. It should be entirely privatized. In the fiscal situation you're in, you can not afford this stuff."

Don't privatize the BBC D:
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Warrab is not online. Warrab
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27 Nov 2011 08:02 AM
Why not? What interest does the government have in funding media?
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History0 is not online. History0
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27 Nov 2011 08:10 AM
It's best broadcasting organization in the world.
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Warrab is not online. Warrab
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27 Nov 2011 08:12 AM
Debateable.

Why not run on donations? NPR gets 94% of their funding from private sources.
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History0 is not online. History0
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27 Nov 2011 08:22 AM
The BBC is the biggest broadcaster in the WORLD, how can it possibly run on donations?
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Warrab is not online. Warrab
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27 Nov 2011 08:28 AM
Get donations from all over the WORLD?

Their budget is 3.5 billion- they can do more advertising, too. They are the biggest broadcaster in the world, remember? Any company would pay big bucks to advertise on BBC.
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History0 is not online. History0
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27 Nov 2011 09:17 AM
Lack of adverts is one of the things that make the BBC special.
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Warrab is not online. Warrab
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27 Nov 2011 09:26 AM
A 1 minute ad every half hour or something isn't gonna kill you. Besides, bathroom breaks.
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Warrab is not online. Warrab
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27 Nov 2011 09:30 AM
BBC can find ways to raise money. Whether it's advertising or something else. Every other company in the UK has to do it.

I'm frankly more concerned about your national debt, preserving spending that actually helps people, economic stability than saving you from the horror of having to watch a commercial.
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kingzeb is not online. kingzeb
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27 Nov 2011 10:54 AM
BBC rules. They have invented alot of shows that has been A. Spread across the world and B. Made into a different language in the same country, with the BBC being given credit.


AKA: Top Gear, Doctor Who ect.
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Yobobo10 is not online. Yobobo10
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27 Nov 2011 11:08 AM
"Why not run on donations? NPR gets 94% of their funding from private sources."

Does anyone listen to NPR?
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Warrab is not online. Warrab
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27 Nov 2011 11:08 AM
Lots of people do.
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FreeLibya is not online. FreeLibya
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27 Nov 2011 11:19 AM
A 1 minute ad every half hour or something isn't gonna kill you. Besides, bathroom breaks.
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Noob no

Europeans are not like americans, after every single news "BUY THIS THING NOW"
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27 Nov 2011 11:21 AM
here the YLE,The Finnish National Broadcasting Company


Today YLE operates four national television channels, 13 radio channels and services, and 25 regional radio stations. Finland being an officially bilingual country — around 5.5% of the population have Swedish as their mother-tongue — YLE provides radio and TV programming in Swedish through a department called Svenska YLE. As is customary in Finnish television and cinemas, foreign films and shows are generally subtitled on YLE's channels. Dubbing is used exclusively in cartoons intended for young children who have not yet learned to read.




"99.9% state-owned, supervised by an Administrative Council appointed by Parliament"
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XieXie is not online. XieXie
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27 Nov 2011 12:17 PM
*I'm posting here so I can come back to this later and it will stay in the MyForums tab ... move along ... *
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27 Nov 2011 12:20 PM
texan cowboy debater whose name is in chinese above
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27 Nov 2011 12:38 PM
@XieXie
The "Email me when someone replies to this thread" button actually tracks the thread, so you don't have to post to find it in the MyForums tab.
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27 Nov 2011 12:41 PM
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04 Dec 2011 06:16 PM
//Lets start. The BBC, where else in the world can you get as great of a service from a state- run broadcaster? It's one of these things which makes me smile about Britain, because it's just better than anything out there. Fact. So what will these bafoons do? Slash it of course. ...//
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So I'm not sure if you're aware of this, but your country is in the middle of a sea of collapsing economies. You may not be in the Eurozone, but you will and have been affected by crisis on the Continent before.

This is not to say the slash is a 'good' thing. There are probably things that should've been cut ahead of this but escaped the slash because of lobbying. Even as an American, I appreciate BBC and read in daily. I love it. But things like BBC Myanmar may be nice but should't be prioritized of fiscal security.

// Big Conservative donators are the richest in the nation, most of them don't even pay taxes, yet they are still willing to have their say over the voice of over 60,000,000 people, and create their personal monopolys, crushing thousands of jobs per year.//

This protectionist thinking is dangerous -- Murdoch's news empire still employs thousands of Britons and foreigners alike. You money also shouldn't limit your freedom of speech in any way. As far as taxes go, if my British Tax law isn't too rusty, lots of them pay income and VAT anyways, most through their corporations.

// ... I switch on Newsnight the the day, and what do I see? Some Conservative MP giving a lecture on how Britian needs to be more free market, their solution for it, BREAK DOWN BANKS, how the heck is that a free market? ..., the Conservatives feel compelled to renew our Nuclear Weapons at the cost of £80,000,000,000, ...//

I agree. That's non-uniqye to British parties - don't act like Labour hasn't spent a lot before. Your country's psyche is embedded in a welfare attitude. That's an issue. Greece fell on that. It's not the conservative's fault, it's the country's fault for not voting them out. (this is not a bash against Britons; Americans have the same problem in different forms). There are things that you need to cut, but refuse to. That does not make selective cuts bad. It makes them sub-optimal, and it should be pushed for cuts across the board rather than ones like the Tory and LibDems have been pushing (don't assume, again, that Labour would be any better).

//They don't regulate properly, every week, there are reports of elderly being treated like animals in supposedly fine care homes according to government reports, we are promised an enquiry, an investigation, where is the action though? Nothing happens.//

The Tories can't have parliament investigate every instance of abuse ever. This sounds like a local constable problem rather than the national government's problem.
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05 Dec 2011 10:10 AM
OMG

XIEXIE DID ONE TYPO AND ONE MISSPELLING
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Iqualit is not online. Iqualit
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05 Dec 2011 02:30 PM
"Does anyone listen to NPR?"

Like Thorae said, lots of people do. There is one whole section of my family who are NPR freaks.
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Yobobo10 is not online. Yobobo10
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06 Dec 2011 04:57 PM
@Xie, The problem I am seeing is this, Labour had mild levels of growth, but huge levels of borrowing, now we have a Conservative government (as I say, the Liberal Democrats serve no purpose, but to make up the numbers as it currently stands) give a massively inconsistent budget, which essentially bludgeons some services to parts, but doesn't cut on some really obvious things.

As for the services aspect of things, the Conservatives are farcically not even bothering to give public services an overhaul which it is in dire need of, I know for a fact that welfare can be cut and managed in a way that will be more efficient and cost affective and still support those who actually are in need of help, not those who can earn more than those who are working as a full time professional by sitting on their rear end all day long and living a comfortable life, the benefit system was not designed to make you have a comfortable life, it was to stop people living on the streets, the same approach has also been made by the government on the NHS, you could save mountains of money in the NHS by cutting down the management structure which private companies have done in recent years with the PCT, because no one is bothering (shock horror, not even the private companies!) to take this approach, so much money is being wasted.

In my opinion, the inability of our elected leaders' to do what they're supposed to do- lead- is the most dangerous threat to most nations economy in the west at the moment. It's as if politicians do not really consider this to be a debt crisis, rather a huge political game for their own greed for more power, even the fringe parties are doing it for God sake...
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