Agentrok
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| 23 Nov 2011 01:46 PM |
-It is difficult to find any jobs in this economy, period. And, statistically, more OWS protesters are employed then the Teabaggers you seem to worship
-Lobbyists DO cause the government to act in corporation's best interest rather then our own. Have you seen how Corporations are coming close to succeeding in censoring the internet?
-Having a different viewpoint does not make OWS "DEM DAM DIRTY COMMIE HIPPIES TRYIN TO RUIN CAPITALIST 'MERICA'S GOOD NAME!"
-Banks DO have all of the power, they're free to foreclose on the homes of hardworking Americans, just because they're only getting paid minimum wage and working two jobs to scrape by.
-Student loans DO screw over students, If anyone can succeed by working hard in America, then why is it that those who go through many years of college end up thousands in debt and struggle to find a job good enough for them to pay it back?
And yes, I get very angry at the ignorance I see here. It's wrong to call someone a moron because you disagree with them, but not wrong to call them a moron when they're just too ignorant to research. Now, please try to come up with some counterpoints. |
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| 23 Nov 2011 01:47 PM |
>the Teabaggers you seem to worship
What? No, no no. You are way off, kid. |
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| 23 Nov 2011 01:50 PM |
Now to mention most OWS protested don't even know what they want or what they're fighting for.
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JamesBank
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| 23 Nov 2011 01:53 PM |
Agent, why do you insist on claiming WWC is ignorant just because of a few people?
I don't flame anyone that disagrees with me, most of the time I'm in the wrong and learn something new. |
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Agentrok
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| 23 Nov 2011 02:02 PM |
>Agent, why do you insist on claiming WWC is ignorant just because of a few people? I don't flame anyone that disagrees with me, most of the time I'm in the wrong and learn something new.
Bro, not insulting WWC, Just a few people who insult OWS based on their own ignorance. I'm not insulting anyone personally, I just generally insult things. Gotta admit though, I did go overboard there. To put it bluntly, I apologize.
I hate apologizing. But I was wrong in a sense.
>Now to mention most OWS protested don't even know what they want or what they're fighting for.
I knew I was missing something when I made this post. OWS protesters are mostly protesting the fact that 1% of the population controls 40% of the wealth, and that this 1% pretty much pays the government to act in their interests. I have NO IDEA where the idea that we have no idea what we're protesting came from. That's just absurd.
>I no longer like you.
I'm used to people hating me, I guess just being disliked is an upgrade. Hey, I finally said something optimistic. |
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JamesBank
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| 23 Nov 2011 02:05 PM |
| Sorry but I hate those hipsters. |
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| 23 Nov 2011 02:11 PM |
@Agent
They have been protesting for the past 2 and a half months now. They could of get a job by now.
Don't give me any BS.
I reside very close to wall st. They are out 24/7.
@James
>Sorry but I hate those hipsters.
Are you that stupid? They are all kinds of #OWS protesters black white Asian seniors ect.... Get your facts straight. |
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| 23 Nov 2011 02:11 PM |
| Are you that stupid? There* are all kinds of #OWS protesters black white Asian seniors ect.... Get your facts straight. |
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Agentrok
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| 23 Nov 2011 02:11 PM |
>Sorry but I hate those hipsters.
And this is the sort of ignorance that drives me insane. We ARE NOT hipsters. Hipsters buy hundred dollar clothing and drink pabst blue ribbon just because they think it makes them unique. We just have a different POLITICAL VIEW. Do your RESEARCH. Also, I enjoy using CAPS for EMPHASIS. It helps MAKE A POINT. |
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Agentrok
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| 23 Nov 2011 02:13 PM |
>They have been protesting for the past 2 and a half months now. They could of get a job by now. Don't give me any BS. I reside very close to wall st. They are out 24/7.
My father was once unemployed. It took him 5 months to find another job, because the economy is in the toilet. Also, Ever think that maybe some DID find a job and left? |
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| 23 Nov 2011 02:16 PM |
@agent
Do I have to listen to their yelling and screaming at 2:00 AM in the morning? NO, BECAUSE I HAVE 1ST AMENDMENT RIGHTS TOO!
They are also killing businesses in the area. |
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Politivo
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| 23 Nov 2011 03:15 PM |
-Lobbyists DO cause the government to act in corporation's best interest rather then our own. Have you seen how Corporations are coming close to succeeding in censoring the internet? __ We all agree. Lobbying is bad. But Unions and other special interst groups lobby Congress to act AGAINST corporations as much as corporations lobby Congress. All of it should be banned.
-Banks DO have all of the power, they're free to foreclose on the homes of hardworking Americans, just because they're only getting paid minimum wage and working two jobs to scrape by. ___ Most people making the minimum wage are just teenagers living with their guardians.
-Student loans DO screw over students, If anyone can succeed by working hard in America, then why is it that those who go through many years of college end up thousands in debt and struggle to find a job good enough for them to pay it back? ___ They're no fun, but student loan debts are not overly burdensome. It costs about as much as car insurance and allows you to get a better paying job. |
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isherloxi
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| 23 Nov 2011 05:38 PM |
Students in debt
Remeber in the 1900s when you could get a GED,drop out,etc and get a job to start a family or more
And college was a rich thing back then
Now college is for everyone and scholarships,etc are more frequent.People are enforced/encouraged to go But loans are what pays for them to go if your not rich nowadays
but now you can't get a job to live on with college,etc |
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kikia
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| 23 Nov 2011 10:28 PM |
When you go to college, it will cost twice as much as it cost for your parents. You will only be eligible for half as many grants, and the loans will be, on average, paid back at 10% higher interest rate. You will probably not be able to pay off your college debt until YOUR children are ready to go to college.
About half of the US will live under the poverty level for at least a year, and about 20% of the population will never make more than the poverty level. The current poverty level is $20k for a family of four. Ask your parents how much the monthly grocery bill is to get an idea of how little that amount is.
More Black and Hispanic families are living in poverty than White families.
11% of American households last year were unable to be sure day to day if there would be any food on the table. Think of ten kids you know: one of them, on average, doesn't get to eat every day.
Insurance companies are run for profit. This means that they do anything they can to avoid paying out benefits, and THAT means that they will do whatever they have to to make sure that when you're sick, they don't cover your hospital bills. Private insurance runs about $300 a month for a family of four. If you can't afford to buy dinner every night, how are you going to afford an extra $300, that might not even cover the kind of sickness that you have?
Food deserts are places where it's hard to get nutritious food. Some places, the nearest grocery stores can be up to 50 miles away. The only food available in these places is convenience store junk food. Poor people who forced to live in these areas have to choose between spending three hours on the bus going to the store, and working or caring for their families. This is a big part of the reason why poor people in the US tend to be unhealthy and overweight: the only food they have access to is the garbage they sell at 7-11.
You're darn right there's a class war going on in this country. The rich have been keeping the poor down long enough. |
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| 23 Nov 2011 11:13 PM |
I hate them based on fact.
They dont know what they want and what Ive heard souds biast and idiotic.
Now get with the program and accept that someone has just as much right to hate them ans they have the right to protest. |
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zct33
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| 23 Nov 2011 11:47 PM |
Now get with the program and accept that someone has just as much right to hate them ans they have the right to protest. _____________________
No one has a right to an un-contested opinion, you retard. |
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| 23 Nov 2011 11:50 PM |
No one has a right to an un-contested opinion, you retard. ------------------------- What do you think I said?
I hate them.
I hate the movement.
And I hate how they make actual anarchists look like uneducated fops.
But hey why get mad?Anyone who uses the word retard as an insult must be a hypocrit or lacking a lick of common sense. |
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zct33
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| 24 Nov 2011 06:27 AM |
And I hate how they make actual anarchists look like uneducated fops. ___________________________
They aren't anarchist protests. They're barely protests at all, because America has forgotten how to protest anymore. Even a bunch of poor Brits can cause more mayhem, for funsies.
But hey why get mad?Anyone who uses the word retard as an insult must be a hypocrit or lacking a lick of common sense. ____________________________
You can't even spell things correctly, so let me rephrase that.
"No one has a right to an un-contested opinion. You individual whose IQ is less than 50. |
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Agentrok
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| 24 Nov 2011 09:15 AM |
-It is difficult to find any jobs in this economy, period. And, statistically, more OWS protesters are employed then the Teabaggers you seem to worship
-Lobbyists DO cause the government to act in corporation's best interest rather then our own. Have you seen how Corporations are coming close to succeeding in censoring the internet?
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I don't see corporations succeeding in censoring the internet, they can censor only their own pages, those laws are just the rename of the last censorship law and we shouldn't be woried about it.
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-Having a different viewpoint does not make OWS "DEM DAM DIRTY COMMIE HIPPIES TRYIN TO RUIN CAPITALIST 'MERICA'S GOOD NAME!"
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I agree on this one, but we don't like that they want "socialism" so they can get more money. FOR FREE!
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-Banks DO have all of the power, they're free to foreclose on the homes of hardworking Americans, just because they're only getting paid minimum wage and working two jobs to scrape by.
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It's their bad that they take loans, the loans take them down. Also, you can live off the minimum wage.
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-Student loans DO screw over students, If anyone can succeed by working hard in America, then why is it that those who go through many years of college end up thousands in debt and struggle to find a job good enough for them to pay it back?
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Again, loans are risky, you have to think twice before you get a loan.
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| 24 Nov 2011 09:23 AM |
About half of the US will live under the poverty level for at least a year, and about 20% of the population will never make more than the poverty level. The current poverty level is $20k for a family of four. Ask your parents how much the monthly grocery bill is to get an idea of how little that amount is.
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Total poverty level was getting lower over the time, it might a few years do some uppity but in total it was going down, because the food standards, clothe standars, and most other standards have risen, in the industrial age there were sure more poverty than today. |
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kikia
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| 24 Nov 2011 01:55 PM |
| So because most people used to starve in the streets and eat sawdust instead of sausage, we should be grateful that only SOME of us are living in those sorts of conditions? Are you even hearing yourself? |
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kikia
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| 24 Nov 2011 02:01 PM |
>I agree on this one, but we don't like that they want "socialism" so they can get >more money. FOR FREE!
No they don't, you moron. Every single year, the cost of living goes up, and every single year American productivity goes up. But wages aren't going up. So, things cost more, and we do more work, but we keep getting paid the same low amount. That's not MONEY FOR FREEE LOLOLOLOLOL. That's asking to be paid fairly for the labor being performed.
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>It's their bad that they take loans, the loans take them down. Also, you can live >off the minimum wage.
Are you really this stupid? So, if the insurance company won't insure you because you have a pre-existing condition and you have to take out a loan to cover your hospital bills, you think that it's your own fault for, what, getting sick?
Or, let's say your house burns down through no fault of your own. Where do you think the money to rebuilt it is going to come from, the Home Repair Fairy?
Also, you can live by panhandling in the park, but that doesn't mean it's healthy, stable, or something to be encouraged.
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>Again, loans are risky, you have to think twice before you get a loan.
Your options are take out a loan that you'll be paying off until you retire, or don't go to college. What do? |
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kikia
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| 24 Nov 2011 02:07 PM |
And think about this: those debt solution programs you see commercials for, the ones that say that they'll take all your debt and help you pay it off with just a few low payments? They will not help you pay off student loan debt or medical debt, because the people who give out student loans, and the people who give out medical loans, want to make sure that they're paid back every single penny.
Every credit card company in the whole country will agree to reduce your debt ifyou promise to pay off the reduced amount. But medical debt and student loan debt companies won't. Think about that. |
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