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Re: Roblox- The Method to its Madness

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Daverid is not online. Daverid
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22 Nov 2011 07:33 PM
People have been talking about how Roblox is going beyond Freemium. They say that it's almost Pay-To-Play(P2P).

-3 Builders' Clubs
-Green outline on OBC 1 Year
-Overpriced Hats; only BC members can afford...
-No improvements to building; Terrain lags tremendously
-Mod immunity for TBC/OBC

They say that NBC is under-powered

-10 TIX per day
-1 Place at a time
-No Packages
-Cannot Auction or create items
-Mods treat them like... Less

All the while, while BC has

-15-60 TIX per day
-Loyalty bonus
-Multiple places
-Badge creator
-Group creator
-BC-only items
-BC- Only places
-MEGA servers (No Terrain caused lag)
-Auction items
-Gear Bonus

Robloxians, listen to me.

Roblox

-Corporation built for money. Must pay staff
-Size costs. The bigger the site gets, the more they must pay for bandwidth
-Servers cost 120-$600 each. Must maintain these.
-100,000+Games means 100,000+Servers
-Roblox as a game is FREE TO JOIN. This means that Roblox must make $$$.

The opportunities are quite limiting.
Options

TF2 Method

-Money made completely through visual Add-Ons

This requires a company with multiple games; perhaps a system. Roblox CANNOT do this, as the amount required for servers is massive. Besides, if you couldn't customize your character, could you play?

M/\i/\n/\e/\c/\r/\a/\f/\'t/\ Method

-Demo is free. Game requires money.

...Roblox requires a social aspect. Only scripters are gonna play something like this.


ROBLOX method

-Game is Free, premium content and extra currency must be bought.

The reason this works is the reason the other two fail.

BCers, as much as I detest the idea of paying for this game, you keep this thing alive.

NBC, Roblox owes us NOTHING unless we

1.Bring people to this game (ambassador)
2.Create a level, keeping Roblox alive(TIX bonus)

However, that is no reason for Roblox to treat NBC like trash.

BUT IT DOESN'T.

-Buy items
-Play levels
-Customize Character

That is enough for the majority of players to be NBC.

If you don't like Roblox

1.Quit it
2.Protest en masse. I may join, may not
3.Demand fair moderation and equal rights. NBC should have just as much immunity as BC/TBC/OBC, that is to say, BC should have NO mod immunity.

One more thing...

-Builders should be able to create 2 places, and should have access to BC only items, albeit at 2X price.

IF place gets more than 10,000 plays THEN
pseudoBC = ON
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end

XD pseudolua


Think what you want of this topic... Please don't discriminate over joindate; newer members are still people.

The point of this topic, for all you tl;drs: Roblox is a company. it needs to be Freemium, however, it has overstepped in some points.


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DokkenGirl1997 is not online. DokkenGirl1997
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22 Nov 2011 07:35 PM
No suggestion, only a word wall.
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Daverid is not online. Daverid
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22 Nov 2011 07:37 PM
Wrong forum, whoops.
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Daverid is not online. Daverid
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22 Nov 2011 07:39 PM
Agh, double post.

This should be in the Roblox talk. I apologize to any who may read this, thinking there is an idea.


THIS IS WHY ROBLOX IS WHAT IT IS.
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Andrewbb19 is not online. Andrewbb19
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22 Nov 2011 07:45 PM
When I first joined ROBLOX, I thought BC was if you want to create more. I never thought about tix, robux, or anything. I only thought of it to be more building. I was a guest for about 2 years. Playing and playing everyday. Researching ROBLOX everyday. I said. "Why what a great game. And what is this so called Builders Club?" When I figured out "places" then I said this, "Oh, Builders Club is for people who want to build alot more" then I decided to join ROBLOX in 2011. My, everything has changed. What happened? Did everything just leave and somebody else took over? Ever since I seen these quotes, I got shocked of how much they care for BC'ers. Everything has changed. I learned to adapt, and I successfully adapted to the new community.
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chris061192 is not online. chris061192
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22 Nov 2011 08:04 PM
@Andrew you havent been on for two years. You joined in 11'.
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sly475 is not online. sly475
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22 Nov 2011 08:17 PM
Actually this counts as an idea.

If you count the entire thing and considered the main idea equal rights.
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Virtualdarks is not online. Virtualdarks
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22 Nov 2011 08:19 PM
Read these and realize what you're fighting for.

http://www.roblox.com/Forum/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=57409098

http://www.roblox.com/Forum/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=53292478

This thread ignores the BC side of all of this.

-Virtualdarks
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Virtualdarks is not online. Virtualdarks
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22 Nov 2011 08:20 PM
Oh, sorry, I just read this is suppose to be in ROBLOX Talk.

Ignore my reply.

-Virtualdarks
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Daverid is not online. Daverid
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23 Nov 2011 12:15 PM
No, actually, the Roblox Talks version got no posts OR views. And I suppose I DO have an idea here. pseudoBC for Builders with over 10,000 hits to a level, and equal moderator rights. Right forum after all.
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TheCupcaik is not online. TheCupcaik
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23 Nov 2011 12:16 PM
Roblox isn't even CLOSE to becoming a pay to play
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Daverid is not online. Daverid
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23 Nov 2011 12:19 PM
You're completely right. Some people say it is, however. Most of that wall of text is defining why Roblox is what it is, and why, while it may seem like that, isn't.

I put a nice handy one sentence summary at the very bottom in case the main body of text was too long.. Please read before you post.
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Zombie895 is not online. Zombie895
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23 Nov 2011 12:21 PM
chris he said he was a GUEST for two years... fail
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Virtualdarks is not online. Virtualdarks
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23 Nov 2011 12:24 PM
@TheCupcaik/Daverid

Actually, Mister Shedletsky nearly made the game Pay to Play, though NBCers begged, thus BC-only places were introduced instead.

-Virtualdarks
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Zombie895 is not online. Zombie895
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23 Nov 2011 12:26 PM
1: if roblox didn't have bc, they would make NO $ and roblox would never exist

2: if roblox didnt have all the REALLY cool features of bc, no one would buy bc, hence roblox closing down AGAIN.

3: why the wall of words?






nuf said, Zombie895
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TheCupcaik is not online. TheCupcaik
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23 Nov 2011 12:27 PM
@ Virtualdarks
Proof?
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Virtualdarks is not online. Virtualdarks
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23 Nov 2011 12:34 PM
@TheCupcaik

...

Someone shoot me. NOW! I can't find any evidence! o.e

-Virtualdarks
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Doppy654 is not online. Doppy654
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23 Nov 2011 12:35 PM
Meh, a portion of this epic thread is related to a theory about ROBLOX (thought by me, of course) from logical assumptions:

ROBLOX is only becoming more P2P mainly because they are putting in updates that only worsen their bills and temperarily madden the community. I thought this because back in 09, ROBLOX didn't have all of these updates, and BC wasn't a necessity to enjoy ROBLOX fully. Then ROBLOX applied the new HUD, and soon enough, BC only updates started showing.

This theory may be incorrect, but whatever. you get my point.
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Daverid is not online. Daverid
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23 Nov 2011 12:54 PM
Zombie- If you posted that as a topic, you would need a flameshield.

The wall of words is necessary to ensure full neutrality. you can't just state your opinions; you must also back them up with logic.

Nice summary though. If I ever make a v2, that's going in where the tl;dr section was.

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Daverid is not online. Daverid
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23 Nov 2011 01:00 PM
Double post again...

The person above me (can't remember your username...)

The HUD is to make Roblox war games more FPS-esque. Many have joined ROBLOX because of that, leading to more servers needed, and more BC needed as well, yes?

Some say ROBLOX is becoming an... Online Social Hangout, somewhat like Facebook... Because of the BC bonus, more people buy it, thus ROBLOX is able to expand while still making money. As I said above however, BC is becoming more powerful, as with more joining comes more cost...

That's why I proposed a PseudoBC, for Builders ONLY.

I meandered abit, but the core complaints of the community are DIRECTLY caused by the expansion of Roblox. Y'get me?
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mikeyman10ash is not online. mikeyman10ash
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23 Nov 2011 01:09 PM
@zombie

BC isn't the main source of money. 3/4 of their money is ads. Only 1/4 of ROBLOX is (T/O)BC. And you're right. I was banned for hacking. It was repealed when they got my report for being false reported, but the TBCer who reported me didn't even get a warning.
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Doppy654 is not online. Doppy654
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23 Nov 2011 01:10 PM
@daverid Like i said, it's a theory, it may not be fully correct, but it's a logical assumption.
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Zombie895 is not online. Zombie895
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23 Nov 2011 01:14 PM
@Daverid The wall of words is necessary to ensure full neutrality. .. ..........


let me think that over...
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Zombie895 is not online. Zombie895
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23 Nov 2011 01:19 PM
ads make most of roblox's money huh? then what about all those years when roblox never had ads? (they didnt make enough money) why didn't they keep just one bc? (they didnt make enough money)... oh and btw, below is just a quote, it happens automaticaly


nuf said, Zombie895
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mikeyman10ash is not online. mikeyman10ash
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23 Nov 2011 01:20 PM
They had more money back then. Now they need money, so they advertise other places AND have 3 BCs.
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