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| 25 Oct 2011 09:08 PM |
If you have read my previous threads on this, people keep claiming to have found "Loopholes" or "ways around", yet only saying that there is one, not taking the extra 60 seconds to post what they are.
Basically, all this is is a spam filter that will (hopefully) be better than the current one. What the current spam filter does, is search posts for known curse words, and the ROBLOX staff has to constantly update the spam filter to stop new proxies, but ways are quickly found around even that.
This is why I am suggesting a spam filter that searches for patterns in a comment, so if someone posts
"Copy and paste this on 10 different hats, then press F5 and you get all those hats"
and then another person comes along and posts that comment 10 times on 10 different hats, then it starts a chain reaction, because some players will look at these and say, "oo I really want *insert 10 hat names here*, I'll try it out!" and then other players see it, and do the same, which causes the spam to spread and spread and spread, but the key thing about this is that all these comments have been copied and pasted, meaning that they are exactly the same, so when 10 different IP adresses all post the same thing, then all those posts get deleted, sucessfully shutting down the spam. Now, you may be thinking "But what if someone posts a comment such as 'This place is bad' and other people post the same thing 10 more times? Ok, right now, look at a game you know has been flamed and flamed, then look at the comments, they all say somewhat the same thing, but they are worded completely differently, such as:
"THIS GAME SUCKS 0/10!!!!!" "NOOBISH GAME!" "N00BBZZZZZZ" "I GET SPAWNKILLED TOO MUCH!" "LAG!" "FREE MODELZ!" "CREATOR IS A NOOB" "CREATOR ABUSES ADMIN!!!!"
They all say that the place absolutely sucks and that no one should play it, but they are saying it in their own original way.
Now back to another problem, people stated that people could easily get around THIS filter by changing a letter or a couple of letters, this is why the spam filter not only searches for things that are exactly the same, but also searches for patterns, so if someone posts:
"C0py and paste this to 10 hats, then press F5 and you get those 5 hats!!!! DON'T FORGET TO CHANGE ONE LETTER WHEN COPY AND PASTING THIS COMMENT!!!!"
after someone else posts:
"Copy and paste this to 10 hats, then press F5 and you get those 5 hats!!!! DON'T FORGET TO CHANGE ONE LETTER WHEN COPY AND PASTING THIS COMMENT!!!!"
You see that there is a slight difference, theh "O" in copy in the first example is a 0, but if you look again, EVERY SINGLE OTHER LETTER IN THAT COMMENT IS EXACTLY THE SAME AS THE OTHER ONE; EXCEPT FOR THE 0. The spam filter sees this, waits until 10 IP adresses post the same thing, but with slight differences in all of them (possibly) then deletes all of them, filing it as spam.
Also, for all of you who think that Telamon's 1 ticket a comment idea is good enough, it isn't, since he is also suggesting that the non-builders club daily ticket income be bumped up to 20 tickets, which counteracts the ENTIRE purpose of the 1 ticket a comment, seeing as people could just, create an account, spam 20 comments, create another account, then spam 20 comments, etc.
Now some of you might've noticed that people could just reword the entire spam message all together, telling others to reword it, but, seeing as the human nature tends to always revert to the thing that is easiest, the reworded coments will also eventually be deleted as well. Sadly, this also applies to legitimate comments, but take a moment and think; does the occasional legitimate comment being deleted even be registered in peoples minds when they can be imagining a whole new ROBLOX without spam?
Now for the Pros and the Cons:
Pros: ---------- - Prevents spam
Cons: ---------- -Legitimate comments may be deleted
This way, the current spam is deleted and the new spam will be prevented :) Support? Cool. Don't support? Why?
P.S IF YOU SEE LOOPHOLES POST THEM!!!!!!!!!! P.P.S The last time I posted this, someone suddenly brought up the fact that if you spammed, you would get banned and no one would be able to post that anymore. This is not true, it is simply the fact that it will still be able to be posted, but will still eventually get deleted due to people posting it over and over again.
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| 25 Oct 2011 09:19 PM |
*Points at idea absent-mindedly* Ohhhhh...dis is long......
~Cool Fantasy Bro~ |
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| 25 Oct 2011 09:21 PM |
Two words for you:
Epic. Signature. |
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| 26 Oct 2011 07:37 AM |
| They could use different wording, that meant the same thing. Such as: Post this 10 times and you get free Robux; and, copy this to ten different items, and you will get lots of money. |
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| 26 Oct 2011 07:38 AM |
| You obviously did not read the entire post. |
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| 26 Oct 2011 07:53 AM |
Post this on 10 forums and you will be called "NOOB".
XD sorry couldnt help it.
The problem is that there are so many alt ways of saying things that it will just end up getting out of hand.
Also it can mess up things. You said people say stuff in there own way but many many many people do give one word comments and I actually see alot of propper comments that are the same.
Its a good attempt though but maybe these will help improve it?
How about have it so it goes through a series of stages weeding out the normal repeating stuff and targeting the actually spam?
Also Spam is usually a long sentance so have a certain number of characters above before its scanned?
look for key words like post, hats, gear, robux and numbers combined with the above ideas should make it more effective and kinder. |
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| 26 Oct 2011 10:49 PM |
I have pointed out most of this in the actual post.
When it comes to having to reword an entire sentence, won't people get just a bit suspicious? If you saw a comment that said:
"Rewords this in the most creative way you can and then press F5 then get free robux"
Would you seriously not give a second thought about it and just go, "MKAY! TIME TO REWORD THIS COMMENT FOR NO APPARENT REASON :DD :D :D"
People do say stuff in their own way, and if people have one word comments that are the same, they'll keep appearing and dissapearing, though the comments that are longer will still get the point through.
"Also, spam is usually a long sentence, so have a certain number of characters above before it's scanned?"
And you your saying that people can't just add 1 extra letter? What about those comments that have the bad luck to have that exact character count?
"Look for key words like post, hats, gear, robux, and numbers combined with the above ideas should make it more effective and kinder."
So people can't just replace "Post" with "Type in" or "Hats" with "Head piece" or "Gear" with "Tools" or even "Robux" with "Money"? |
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| 27 Oct 2011 10:14 AM |
| Support. What else is there to say? |
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| 27 Oct 2011 05:44 PM |
| Keep in mind ROBLOX is a kids game, Many think its true and others who try it once should get banned? No, ROBLOX is for everyone, We need to keep all gamers happy so people play it, Why lose millions of payers because they "Spammed"? |
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| 27 Oct 2011 05:47 PM |
Oh. My. God.
YOU DID NOT READ THE ENTIRE THREAD!
I clearly stated in there that the people whose posts got deleted WOULD NOT GET BANNED.
*epic face palm* |
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| 27 Oct 2011 08:25 PM |
support all the way!
-(facepalm the sound you hear when theblock24 reads your post)- |
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| 27 Oct 2011 08:54 PM |
| Not bad, but we're gonna need a supercomputer for this. I mean, eventually AI falters (and might pull off a HAL9000) and it's not like there's a dedicated board patrolling the comments. Good concept though, but the execution will be as difficult as beating Telamon with Bloxxy Cola. |
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| 27 Oct 2011 08:56 PM |
| I believe you are exaggerating a bit, you see, look at ROBLOX as it is now, it is able to support millions of servers at once with no lag, this is nothing in comparison to that, seeing as servers take up more space than comments. Sure, there are more comments, but not enough to substitute for all of the servers. |
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| 27 Oct 2011 09:04 PM |
| True, but the sheer magnitude of comments posted every minute concerns me. Added by the ridiculous amounts of places (especially popular ones), other items with comments(like Shirts), the spam would be multiplied faster than the scanner can patrol the comments, unless it's a per-item sort of feature. |
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