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Re: The Ultimate What Not and Why Not

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Recruitsoldier is not online. Recruitsoldier
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31 Aug 2011 02:11 AM
Contents:

Introduction
Pets
BC Benefits for NBC
ROBUX for NBC
Ignore/Block Ability
Earrings/shoes/bracelets/necklaces
Private PMs Ingame
The Trading System
Remove guests/Make it able to report them
Sell ROBLOX Gamecards to Other Countries
Veteran Rewards
Minor Scripts Implemented by ROBLOX
Donate
Increased Amount of Hats Worn at One Time
Epilogue

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Introduction

Over the years that S&I has been in existence, it is easy to tell that the forum has not gone through great development in original ideas. Occasionally, I come across a certain good idea, but for the rest, it all appears to be the same thing to me.

Today, I decided to cramp together all the things that I have seen on the forums, that are not worthy to be called a suggestion. The WNTS is not here, and, in place of sounding like a minimod and stating the stuff you aren't supposed to suggest, I'll go a step further in the Ultimate What Not and Why Not.

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Pets

Pets is not at all new. I have seen posts like this dating back to a year ago. The concept of pets hasn't changed much over that time, however, it's just been the fact that no one on the forum ventures past the first page. When they go on S&I, and at that moment there is no pets suggestion on the front page, they will make one, not even bothering to search for pet suggestions. Sometimes they claim that the idea is completely theirs.

I have no idea why people would want to suggest this. The idea of five bricks with a puppy face following me around all day just sickens me. Nevertheless, it was good enough to be considered by the moderators.

WHY NOT TO SUGGEST THIS: It is currently planned by the staff of ROBLOX. Proof?

htt p://roblox.userv oice.co m/forums/4658-roblox/topics/4658-roblox-needs-/filter/accepted

Scroll down to the 5th suggestion from the top. It should be called, "Roblo pet that follows you."

NOTE: Spaces added to link to avoid filter - just remove the spaces to go to the link

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BC Benefits for NBC

This has been the subject of a huge amount of posts in S&I. Usually, the poster sees one benefit they don't have, but is on the BC list, and suggests it for NBC.

However, doing so would create a chain reaction of bad events. The first BC benefit to be switched over to NBC would break the rule of no BC benefits for NBC for starters. This would then create a chain reaction of posts asking for more BC benefits, unable to be argued with properly due to the first BC benefit that was made NBC.

Then, if ROBLOX made more BC benefits NBC, BCers would get mad, and start rioting all over the forum. ROBLOX would also start getting less money, due to less people buying BC.

WHY NOT TO SUGGEST THIS: It would create a long, hard chain reaction of bad events that would result in a lot of people getting sad or mad. ROBLOX would also gain less money necessary to keep the site running, therefore taking a gamble.

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ROBUX for NBC

Somewhat related to the previous subject, but still important enough individually to be on my list.

ROBUX can be acquired by the TC, giving an NBCer, on estimate, 1 ROBUX per 10 Tickets. This is the standard, but I've seen it at 8:1 and at 13:1. Therefore, suggesting something like, ''NBCers should get ROBUX too!'' is invalid, because you already can.

Suggesting that NBCers get 10 ROBUX is way too much, putting NBCers at 4 less ROBUX than what a BCer gets daily. Even adding five is still too much, more than a third of what BCers get daily.

Currently, the amount we get per day stands perfectly fine. Keep in mind there are many other ways to get money, not just relying on your daily allowance. The best way, if you're concerned with your vault being dry of money, is to just forget your money is there. Only a few weeks ago I had 150+ ROBUX, and only then I realized I could buy some cool stuff. Which I did. And now I have another 80 ROBUX, after having only 46 for some time.

WHY NOT TO SUGGEST THIS: You can already get ROBUX, by the Trade Currency. Click on your tickets and then click on the option to the right labeled ''Trade Currency.'' If you're smart, you'll cash in your tickets when ROBUX is worth less, and then cashing your ROBUX back in for tickets when it's worth more. For instance, if you had 100 Tickets, and 1 ROBUX was 8 Tickets, you'd get 12 ROBUX, with 4 tickets left over. Then, if 1 ROBUX rose to being 12 tickets, and you cashed back in your ROBUX, you'd get 144 tickets, plus the four you had left over: 148. So 48 more than you had originally.

You should also not suggest this because it would put NBCers daily bonus too close to what BCers get, even a small amount like two extra ROBUX.

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Ignore/Block Ability

This one has been around for quite a long time. I don't necessarily agree with it, because you can easily press the ignore button inside your head, making this idea a waste of money and time, but, the ROBLOX admins have considered it.

I'm going to make this short and simple.

WHY NOT TO SUGGEST THIS: The admins have this under review. Suggesting this would be suggesting something they've already considered, which is unnecessary. Proof?

ht tp://roblox.use rvoice.c om/forums/4658-roblox/topics/4658-roblox-needs-/filter/accepted

Scroll down to the 4th idea. It should be called, ''Mute System for Comments Spammers.''

Even though this is a suggestion for commentary, it's best to just wait and see what the admins are thinking.

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Earrings/shoes/bracelets/necklaces

Something I have seen lately. Earrings are pointless for ROBLOXians because we don't have ears. We would look pretty stupid wearing them, it'd just look like two dots in the sides of our head. Shoes would make ROBLOXians look ridiculous, because the shoes would have to be square, and it takes the ROBLOX aspect out of ROBLOX. Just draw them on pants or buy the bodies which have semi-shoes attached to them.

Bracelets are also stupid because ROBLOXians don't have ringed arms. The ring would go inside parts of our arm and would stick out too much on other parts. Necklaces also don't make sense because we can easily draw those on shirts.

WHY NOT TO SUGGEST THIS: It would make our ROBLOXians look really weird and stupid. It would be a total waste of time and money. Just draw them on pants and shirts.

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Private PMs ingame

This is not so much of a bad idea. It would help in games where you need to tell someone to move or get out of the way individually. But, the reason I have this on my list is not for that reason.

WHY NOT TO SUGGEST THIS: It is currently under review by the ROBLOX admins. Proof?

htt p://roblox.user voice.co m/forums/4658-roblox/topics/4658-roblox-needs-/filter/accepted

The 3rd idea down from the top should be called, ''whisper chat ingame.'' And it should be labeled as under review by the staff.

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The Trading System

This idea has been out for a very long time now. However, ROBLOX is already planning to do this.

Personally, I don't necessarily disagree or agree with the idea. Granted, it could make getting rare or expensive hats easier, but it could increase your chances of getting scammed (i.e. the scammer gives you an expensive hat that doesn't fit any head, and doubtless scammers will find countless other ways to scam you).

WHY NOT TO SUGGEST THIS: It is currently planned by the ROBLOX admins. Proof?

htt p://roblox.userv oice.co m/forums/4658-roblox/topics/4658-roblox-needs-/filter/accepted

It should be the 2nd idea from the top, and labeled as planned.

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Remove Guests/Make it able to report them

Ah, guests. Topic of conversation on S&I for a long time now. Two sides are in place - the ones that love guests, and the ones who dislike them. I could see the logic in both sides, but I see logic in the side who loves them more.

Guests cannot break a majority of the game rules. There are only two that I know:

1) Exploiting.
2) Swearing (by writing swear words with bricks on the floor or wall).

They can also teamkill, spawnkill, massdelete, and masscopy, but those were never classified as official rules. So they may be annoying, but they don't break a lot of rules.

Let me explain it to you this way. You just made a tower that you are very proud of. Then, the baby comes in and knocks it over. Are you mad at him? You will be, but you shouldn't. He doesn't have any knowledge of the situation or that knocking over your tower would make you mad. Same with guests. They don't know what they're doing most of the time.

You can't get angry at them, they're just learning the game. They could become the greatest scripter and most popular person in ROBLOX, and how would it make you feel to know you just kicked him out?

However, the topic is not of the fact that users get too steamed at guests. The topic is regarding the suggestions. So...

WHY NOT TO SUGGEST THIS: Guests can break few rules. It's the better for the community if most rulebreakers use guests, because if they all used alts we'd have a real problem - a flood of unused banned accounts only used one time for breaking rules. Suggesting to remove guests would create more problems than it solves, also considering a new user would be forced to make an account and cannot play freely until he chooses if he wants to take up space on his computer by making an account.

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Sell ROBLOX Gamecards to Other Countries

This has been around ever since gamecards came out.

The fact is, ROBLOX is based in California, USA. They first released the game cards in USA, obviously. Their next target may be somewhere farther away, but still close to home - Canada, perhaps. Maybe in the future they'll sell it in other continents, but ROBLOX can't just ship 100,000 game cards to another country just like that. For now, just be patient with this.

WHY NOT TO SUGGEST THIS: ROBLOX cannot ship all those cards to faraway countries that easily. Also, game cards just came out, so obviously they're not going to start by selling them in Germany. They'll start in the USA, and work their way out. Just be patient, kay?

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Veteran Rewards

I'll just start off by saying, veterans may or may not have helped much in the community. ROBLOX isn't going to bother to distinguish between which ones did something special and which ones spent more time soaking up space than doing anything useful, and will just give out the rewards to all veterans, those who don't deserve it and those who do.

Also, we already got a badge, a medal, the wisdom of a year's knowledge, and the ability to brag. We couldn't possibly get anything more that's useful, could we?

ROBLOX already gave us a hat, so a hat as a reward for being a veteran wouldn't be sensible. Not anything that's in the BC list of features, because most veterans barely did anything to get those features. So, what then? However, there's also another reason why you shouldn't suggest this.

WHY NOT TO SUGGEST THIS: The idea of Veteran Rewards is already under review by the staff of ROBLOX. Proof?

htt p://roblox.user voice.co m/forums/4658-roblox/topics/4658-roblox-needs-/filter/accepted

It should be the 1st one on the list.

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Minor Scripts Implemented by ROBLOX

What I mean by this is, people suggest something easily scriptable by themself. Like, for instance, a house (just an example).

ROBLOX is not going to devote its time to making little things for you just because you're too darn lazy to script it yourself or even find it in free models. Make them yourself, or do without them. You want ROBLOX to focus on making good, worthwhile updates, don't you?

WHY NOT TO SUGGEST THIS: ROBLOX has better things to do with their time, other than making every little thing one could possibly dream up. Script it yourself or even find it on free models. ROBLOX isn't a free script giver.

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Donate

No. There are several reasons as to why this won't make the table.

For starters, you'll have an increased amount of NBC beggars going around spamming inboxes with donation requests. And since NBCers have even less money than BCers, I can just imagine what an even moderately rich person's inbox would look like if this was implemented.

Secondly, you'll have alt abuse, being able to gather 10 times the amount of money with one account than visiting your own place. So basically, to get 100 extra tickets through alt abuse currently, you'd need 100 accounts visiting your place once every day. Truly tiring and discouraging at one point. If this was added, all you'd need is 10 accounts to gather the same amount, and instead of visiting a place, which can lag and take time, you just find your main profile and click the donate button. That easy.

Thirdly, there will be an increased chance of getting scammed, and new users will find themselves losing all their money to a promise of getting an extra 1,000,000 ROBUX.

WHY NOT TO SUGGEST THIS: There will be beggars, scammers, and severe alt abuse. Three strikes is enough to say you're out to this suggestion.

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Increased Amount of Hats Worn At One Time

I have seen some ideas lately of a Quadruple Hat Feature or even a Quinti Hat Feature, or more.

No. It would lag and is pretty much unnecessary. There are four types of hats, currently: Hair, regular hat, glasses, and things worn on the back.

This may sound like it's suitable to have a Quadruple Hat Feature, but the fact is, things worn on the back are rare. I can only think of two: The Sword Pack, and one that has wings on the back, which I forgot the name of.

Also, it's unlikely that you'll be wearing ALL of these at the same time. Especially hat with hair.

WHY NOT TO SUGGEST THIS: It's unlikely that you'll be wearing the four types of hats at the same time, and it would lag. It is highly unnecessary and therefore shouldn't be implemented.

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Epilogue

Well, that was it. Refer to here if you want an argument against a thread on the subject of one of the things on this list.

Over time, I will gather even more ideas and add them to this list, until, at one point, I will have a huge post. For now, however, make do with this. If you can think of other ideas you see commonly in S&I that don't make sense, are oversuggested, or are already told no by the admins, send those ideas to me via PM. In the next bigger post, I'll give you credit for the idea if I accept it.

Overall, this took me about 45 minutes to write.

~ THIS THREAD IS A RECRUITSOLDIER GOLDEN POST ~
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Bumpity
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One of these posts was needed.
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Greaat we needed one of these.
BUMP!
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I agree with this.
and veteran awards are stupid because the award for being a veteran is the badge.
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Hmm, you could have made this a bit more brief and some of the things on their are not really necessary. Overall, the ideas are great, you spent 45mins on this? Congratulations but you did not need to put in that much time.
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You do not need to be able to report guests...
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31 Aug 2011 05:19 AM
Bump.

45 minutes is no time to me. I get one hour per day on the computer.
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I'm not going to respond to that.

Mainly because arguing about guests is not one of my strongpoints. You need to realize I'm not defending guests, or hugging them. I'm simply stating that people overreact a little too much when a guest deletes something they've worked on for ten minutes and can easily rebuild the next time they play.

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@watevs

Yes, I plagiarised yer literature. AND YOU CAN'T DO NOTHIN' ABOUT IT!!! MUAHAHAHAHAAHA

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I dedicate 45 minutes of time to this post, and people can't devote 5 minutes of continuous concentration to it?
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about roblox making things for you? they are ._. STAMPAH
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Bump.
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Wow.... You spent time writing this.
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@zatch

Only 45 minutes.

Anyways. Bump.
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