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SCIFIGuy64 is not online. SCIFIGuy64
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06 Sep 2011 06:01 PM
In operation Desert storm, 2000 Abraham Russian tanks where deployed. Only 100 M1A1 tanks of USA's where relesed and only one of ours was disabled. Not even for a long time! But the other ones.... Only 10 made it out in an OK working order.


Thats the sheer power of These States of America.
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CastIron is not online. CastIron
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06 Sep 2011 06:05 PM
Abram's tank is horrid during a gurilla war, or urban warfare.
Can't shoot what you can't see.
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TheOnion is not online. TheOnion
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06 Sep 2011 06:05 PM
"2000 Abraham Russian tanks "

Can't tell if trolling

Or just stupid
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Person299 is not online. Person299
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06 Sep 2011 06:08 PM
wth is an Abraham Russian tank...

~IT'S FREEEEEEE!!!!
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Twigs186 is not online. Twigs186
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06 Sep 2011 06:24 PM
The 2A6 is the superior tank. If you want a good tank but limited range, especially for urban and insurgency operations, try the Merkeva for right now. But if you really want a good tank for urban and insurgent warfare, wait a while and try to get your hands on the 2A7+ or 2A6PSO.
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WayneBrady is not online. WayneBrady
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06 Sep 2011 06:52 PM
>Implying the M1A1 was designed for urban combat.


They haev TUSK systems, you know. Greatly increases urban survival.
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Asassin37 is not online. Asassin37
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06 Sep 2011 06:53 PM
The tank become obsolete the day we made Smart Bombs.

Also, Desert Storm was mostly aerial and naval bombardment. The tanks and infantry were just there to mop it up, and keep it clean.
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WayneBrady is not online. WayneBrady
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06 Sep 2011 06:54 PM
The tank is still useful.

You think a terrorist does not shat his pants when he sees a tank battalion heading into his village and spraying every home with .50 BMG bullets of death?
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Asassin37 is not online. Asassin37
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06 Sep 2011 06:57 PM
I don't think there has been a case of a full battalion of tanks has entered a village, much less organized a large attack, in 10 years. The most that are sent in one patrol is 2 or 3, and that's either in a convoy, or during a raid on a compound.

Usually, a tank is accompanied by a squad of Marines, and has to confirm the target before every shot.
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WayneBrady is not online. WayneBrady
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06 Sep 2011 06:57 PM
What about light tanks and Strykers?

Those are very useful.
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Asassin37 is not online. Asassin37
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06 Sep 2011 06:58 PM
IEDs, bro.
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Carbonwinglabs is not online. Carbonwinglabs
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06 Sep 2011 06:59 PM
>2000 Abraham Russian tanks


I need a picture to go with this, lol.
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Twigs186 is not online. Twigs186
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06 Sep 2011 06:59 PM
The tank become obsolete the day we made Smart Bombs.
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Yeah....no.

Also, Desert Storm was mostly aerial and naval bombardment. The tanks and infantry were just there to mop it up, and keep it clean.
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Nope.avi

The most advanced divisions of the Iraqi Army were left alone from the killboxes. The aerial and naval bombardment was mainly on Iraqi conscripts and those leaving in hot pursuit of Kuwait.

It was a real war akin to blitzkreig.
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Carbonwinglabs is not online. Carbonwinglabs
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06 Sep 2011 07:00 PM
STRYKERS ARE AWESOME

LAV III ARE BETTER THOUGH!
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WayneBrady is not online. WayneBrady
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06 Sep 2011 07:00 PM
I'm gonna have to agree with Twigs on this one, he is right.



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Twigs186 is not online. Twigs186
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06 Sep 2011 07:00 PM
And quit basing the next conventional wars on the dammed ways war is fought now in low intensity enviroments. The Russian Georgia War surely should of changed that.
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WayneBrady is not online. WayneBrady
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06 Sep 2011 07:02 PM
We haven't seen a real deal war in a while.

E.G: WWII.

It's mainly just low intensity bombardment. Too many regulations that belligerents don't follow.
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Twigs186 is not online. Twigs186
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06 Sep 2011 07:06 PM
Are you calling the Russian Georgian War low insensity? it was the first time in forever that two opposing naval forces actually fought each other, and their were mass MLRS artillery attacks on each other with large armored forces clashing in Ossestia.
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WayneBrady is not online. WayneBrady
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06 Sep 2011 07:08 PM
But it was not a REAL DEAL type, I mean, it WAS war, but not between equal armies.

Russia, with no morals or Geneva Convention, would OBLITERATE Georgia.
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Carbonwinglabs is not online. Carbonwinglabs
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06 Sep 2011 07:09 PM
I all remember from the Russian-Georgian war was dumb rednecks waiting on their lawns with shot guns for Russian paratroopers.
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Asassin37 is not online. Asassin37
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06 Sep 2011 07:11 PM
>Talks about war like he fought in it.
>Did not fight in said war.

Dur problem is hur!
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WayneBrady is not online. WayneBrady
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06 Sep 2011 07:13 PM
Yeah Bio, you did not fight in the war!

I'm guessing Assassin's comment was at Bio, since he decided to keep it extremely vague.
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Twigs186 is not online. Twigs186
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06 Sep 2011 07:15 PM
But it was not a REAL DEAL type, I mean, it WAS war, but not between equal armies.
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Not really. It was simply a war to gain back ground and destroy the Georgian army.

Russia, with no morals or Geneva Convention, would OBLITERATE Georgia.
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It did. It bombed Tblisi causing some of the largest civilian causalties per day than Cast Lead or comparable urban engagements. It also destroyed the entire Georgian army.

I all remember from the Russian-Georgian war was dumb rednecks waiting on their lawns with shot guns for Russian paratroopers.
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HURHURHUR! IM SO SMART! WHOOO! AVRO ARROW SO GOOD AND US BAD!
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Asassin37 is not online. Asassin37
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06 Sep 2011 07:15 PM
Stop complaining or I'll slap you h0.
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Carbonwinglabs is not online. Carbonwinglabs
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06 Sep 2011 07:17 PM
>HURHURHUR! IM SO SMART! WHOOO! AVRO ARROW SO GOOD AND US BAD!

Lol strawman.
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