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| 01 Sep 2011 08:38 AM |
First off I would like to start with saying I understand the frustraition some Vaktovian members would feel when they stumble across our group page.
There are many groups, like ours who are actually deliberatly imitating Vak.
Thus the flaming is understandable but not to the level it is getting to.
In the original VAK description Vaktus wrote "We are the Helghast of ROBLOX."
As many VAK members are aware, the Helghast are the main hostile faction in the PS3 game "Killzone".
In short, VAK is the ROBLOX version of Scholar Visiaries Helghan with a few new ideas added in from Vaktus.
Now for TSE. The Stalh Empire is based off Jorhan .B Stahls personal military.
Jorhan Stahl owns Stahl Arms and provides the Helghast military with "StA #" weapons. This debunks the "You're copy vak weapon names" theory.
Obviously, due to being based off the same Faction from the same game unfortunate similarities will occur. We are doing our best to look unique, we made new uniforms very different from the Killzone ones ect..ect..
However having "Empire" at the end of our group name also fuels the "You're copying VAK" theory. So I shall explain, as I did with a VAK HR how the group name came to be.
You can skip down a paragraph if you don't care about this part.
TSE is based on a future Helghan, one with Jorhan Brivime Stahl (I prefer to spell it Stalh) as the Autarch. That's all there is to it.
If you have any other questions please feel free to PM me, I will not respond to blatant rudeness or hostility. |
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| 01 Sep 2011 08:40 AM |
Can I be accepted into the cadets? My main has 7000+Kos, this account has a bloxxer badge So yeah.
And I don't feel like leaving C&G. |
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| 01 Sep 2011 08:43 AM |
Is your main account Terminated? If not then join on both accounts.
There is currently a training in-progress at the Official Training Area I built. |
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| 01 Sep 2011 08:44 AM |
| Ok, I'll send the other account's request. |
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| 01 Sep 2011 08:53 AM |
| More like the Vaktovian Empire is the 3rd Reich. |
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| 01 Sep 2011 09:06 AM |
| Naruto, that's basicaly what the Helghast are. Only in space. |
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| 01 Sep 2011 09:09 AM |
I find it stupid when any Vaktovian claims another clan "copied" them, as if they were the first "Empire" on ROBLOX and AREN'T copied from a game.
It's not even funny anymore. |
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| 01 Sep 2011 09:12 AM |
Really, anyone who spouts the word "VAK copy" should be banned from the internet for life and save us the expense of dealing with stupid people.
It's seriously like arguing who 'copied' one style first. Every clan has their influence, some are just more obvious than others.
VAK, for example, is pretty much a completely Killzone influenced in terms of uniforms, tech, rank names and some systems.
RAT, on the other hand, is pretty much an original idea with influences from other games, mainly Mirror's Edge.
Is there anything wrong with either?
No, and it's rather annoying when you have an idiot using that argument making people who detest VAK's actions look dumb. (In regards to VAK IS A KILLZONE COPY!) junk, and the main reason people harass Vasarrus. He's mindless granted but harassing him solely on 'copying' VAK which influenced from something itself is stupid. |
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| 01 Sep 2011 09:19 AM |
@ColourTheory
You have no idea how much hate messages I get when I log on, mainly VAC, some Colonels. |
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Vasarrus
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| 01 Sep 2011 09:35 AM |
@Colour
Exactly, VSE Is NOT Based off of killzone, we are based off of Sins Of A Solar Empire. and yet we are still called "VAK Copy" for haing the word empire at the end of our name. |
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| 01 Sep 2011 09:36 AM |
@Colour
Last paragraph is wrong. |
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| 01 Sep 2011 09:37 AM |
Yes, it's like any clan with the word empire is a "vak copy". It's annoying when I was in ECE. |
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| 01 Sep 2011 10:01 AM |
@Vassarus We don't hate you because you have "Empire" in your name, we hate you because your egotistical and arrogant...
<3, Your mortal enemy. |
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| 01 Sep 2011 11:31 AM |
| Bump of Mass Truth contained in this thread. |
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| 01 Sep 2011 08:38 PM |
| See, i joined this group because jordan stahl's dudes are awesome. They're not just plain helghast... or are they 0_o |
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Vrix
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| 01 Sep 2011 08:41 PM |
| Everyone finds inspiration from something, no one can lie about that. |
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| 01 Sep 2011 11:28 PM |
Bump of Artia posting so it's now a big deal.
Imma bump this for one more day then let it die. |
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| 02 Sep 2011 01:56 AM |
Ok, but to turn you're own argument against you:
If Stalh was a loyalist to Visari before he died, considering Vaktus isn't gone forever, that means you fall under his TOTAL COMMAND. |
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| 02 Sep 2011 02:02 AM |
| Cool, I'd join if I wasn't so busy with CM. |
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| 02 Sep 2011 02:04 AM |
actually, we hate you for other reasons.
Colour has a point. overly dramatised maybe, but he has a point.
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| 02 Sep 2011 02:18 AM |
@Poik We don't follow the Killzone Storyline, we have our own. |
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| 02 Sep 2011 03:29 AM |
That's funny, because if one is based of something, one would be following it's story-line regardless.
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