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Re: The Stalh Empire, debunking the "VAK Copy" theory.

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CommanderRoblock is not online. CommanderRoblock
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01 Sep 2011 08:38 AM
First off I would like to start with saying I understand the frustraition some Vaktovian members would feel when they stumble across our group page.

There are many groups, like ours who are actually deliberatly imitating Vak.

Thus the flaming is understandable but not to the level it is getting to.

In the original VAK description Vaktus wrote "We are the Helghast of ROBLOX."

As many VAK members are aware, the Helghast are the main hostile faction in the PS3 game "Killzone".

In short, VAK is the ROBLOX version of Scholar Visiaries Helghan with a few new ideas added in from Vaktus.

Now for TSE.
The Stalh Empire is based off Jorhan .B Stahls personal military.

Jorhan Stahl owns Stahl Arms and provides the Helghast military with "StA #" weapons. This debunks the "You're copy vak weapon names" theory.

Obviously, due to being based off the same Faction from the same game unfortunate similarities will occur. We are doing our best to look unique, we made new uniforms very different from the Killzone ones ect..ect..

However having "Empire" at the end of our group name also fuels the "You're copying VAK" theory. So I shall explain, as I did with a VAK HR how the group name came to be.

You can skip down a paragraph if you don't care about this part.

TSE is based on a future Helghan, one with Jorhan Brivime Stahl (I prefer to spell it Stalh) as the Autarch. That's all there is to it.

If you have any other questions please feel free to PM me, I will not respond to blatant rudeness or hostility.
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xXKeywordXx is not online. xXKeywordXx
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01 Sep 2011 08:40 AM
Can I be accepted into the cadets? My main has 7000+Kos,
this account has a bloxxer badge
So yeah.

And I don't feel like leaving C&G.
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CommanderRoblock is not online. CommanderRoblock
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01 Sep 2011 08:43 AM
Is your main account Terminated? If not then join on both accounts.

There is currently a training in-progress at the Official Training Area I built.
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xXKeywordXx is not online. xXKeywordXx
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01 Sep 2011 08:44 AM
Ok, I'll send the other account's request.
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Naruto0263 is not online. Naruto0263
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01 Sep 2011 08:53 AM
More like the Vaktovian Empire is the 3rd Reich.
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CommanderRoblock is not online. CommanderRoblock
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01 Sep 2011 09:06 AM
Naruto, that's basicaly what the Helghast are. Only in space.
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HeroMaster is not online. HeroMaster
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01 Sep 2011 09:09 AM
I find it stupid when any Vaktovian claims another clan "copied" them, as if they were the first "Empire" on ROBLOX and AREN'T copied from a game.

It's not even funny anymore.
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ColourTheory is not online. ColourTheory
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01 Sep 2011 09:12 AM
Really, anyone who spouts the word "VAK copy" should be banned from the internet for life and save us the expense of dealing with stupid people.

It's seriously like arguing who 'copied' one style first. Every clan has their influence, some are just more obvious than others.

VAK, for example, is pretty much a completely Killzone influenced in terms of uniforms, tech, rank names and some systems.

RAT, on the other hand, is pretty much an original idea with influences from other games, mainly Mirror's Edge.

Is there anything wrong with either?

No, and it's rather annoying when you have an idiot using that argument making people who detest VAK's actions look dumb. (In regards to VAK IS A KILLZONE COPY!) junk, and the main reason people harass Vasarrus. He's mindless granted but harassing him solely on 'copying' VAK which influenced from something itself is stupid.
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CommanderRoblock is not online. CommanderRoblock
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01 Sep 2011 09:19 AM
@ColourTheory

You have no idea how much hate messages I get when I log on, mainly VAC, some Colonels.
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Vasarrus is not online. Vasarrus
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01 Sep 2011 09:35 AM
@Colour

Exactly, VSE Is NOT Based off of killzone, we are based off of Sins Of A Solar Empire. and yet we are still called "VAK Copy" for haing the word empire at the end of our name.
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Vasarrus is not online. Vasarrus
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01 Sep 2011 09:36 AM
@Colour

Last paragraph is wrong.
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xXKeywordXx is not online. xXKeywordXx
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01 Sep 2011 09:37 AM
Yes, it's like any clan with the word empire is a "vak copy".
It's annoying when I was in ECE.
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CongoCombo is not online. CongoCombo
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01 Sep 2011 10:01 AM
@Vassarus
We don't hate you because you have "Empire" in your name, we hate you because your egotistical and arrogant...

<3,
Your mortal enemy.
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xXKeywordXx is not online. xXKeywordXx
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01 Sep 2011 10:01 AM
That seems legit.
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CommanderRoblock is not online. CommanderRoblock
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01 Sep 2011 11:31 AM
Bump of Mass Truth contained in this thread.
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Artia44 is not online. Artia44
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01 Sep 2011 11:34 AM
Cool.


Lol
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whaleofaperson is not online. whaleofaperson
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01 Sep 2011 08:38 PM
See, i joined this group because jordan stahl's dudes are awesome. They're not just plain helghast... or are they 0_o
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Vrix is not online. Vrix
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01 Sep 2011 08:41 PM
Everyone finds inspiration from something, no one can lie about that.
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CommanderRoblock is not online. CommanderRoblock
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01 Sep 2011 11:28 PM
Bump of Artia posting so it's now a big deal.

Imma bump this for one more day then let it die.
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CommanderRoblock is not online. CommanderRoblock
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02 Sep 2011 01:53 AM
El bumpo de sapo.
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poik12 is not online. poik12
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02 Sep 2011 01:56 AM
Ok, but to turn you're own argument against you:

If Stalh was a loyalist to Visari before he died, considering Vaktus isn't gone forever, that means you fall under his TOTAL COMMAND.
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Shadowkuta is not online. Shadowkuta
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02 Sep 2011 02:02 AM
Cool, I'd join if I wasn't so busy with CM.
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Shadowkuta is not online. Shadowkuta
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02 Sep 2011 02:04 AM
actually, we hate you for other reasons.

Colour has a point. overly dramatised maybe, but he has a point.
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CommanderRoblock is not online. CommanderRoblock
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02 Sep 2011 02:18 AM
@Poik
We don't follow the Killzone Storyline, we have our own.
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poik12 is not online. poik12
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02 Sep 2011 03:29 AM
That's funny, because if one is based of something, one would be following it's story-line regardless.
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