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Re: The Age of Europe is over Twigs.

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Jericho17 is not online. Jericho17
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29 Aug 2011 07:38 PM
The Age of North America is now. It has been for 20 years now. Deal with it.
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robbie01 is not online. robbie01
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29 Aug 2011 07:41 PM
This angers me, it just makes you sound like a pro-american piece of garbage.

no offense.
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Jericho17 is not online. Jericho17
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29 Aug 2011 07:42 PM
Whats wrong with being Pro-America?

Also I have facts to back this sentiment over. I am also not being condescending to Europe, more to twigs than anybody else.
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Person299 is not online. Person299
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29 Aug 2011 07:44 PM
Not really, I'd just say it seems like it is since most of the people here, you know, live in North America.
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Jericho17 is not online. Jericho17
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29 Aug 2011 07:46 PM
Europe can longer put forth a superpower due to geographical and geopolitical restrictions.
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Person299 is not online. Person299
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29 Aug 2011 07:49 PM
They could if they wanted to, but they're kinda too smart to spend trillions of dollars to build up their ego like the US does.
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Jericho17 is not online. Jericho17
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29 Aug 2011 07:51 PM
No not really. Europe has no real access or at least economically sustainable one to the Pacific, Pacific trade has become more valuable now than Atlantic trade so therefore Europe can't produce one. At most they can form minor world powers.

Notice I sad North America. American power will likely at the end of this century. Then another North American nation will succeed.
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Boeing717 is not online. Boeing717
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29 Aug 2011 07:52 PM
i nominate canada for new power at centuries end

especially if the northwest passage opens
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Jericho17 is not online. Jericho17
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29 Aug 2011 07:54 PM
No, at the end of this century it will be Mexico not Canada. Canada might get the 23rd Century though.
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Boeing717 is not online. Boeing717
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29 Aug 2011 07:57 PM
If it was any American nation, I'd say Panama if it was a little bigger.
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Jericho17 is not online. Jericho17
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29 Aug 2011 08:00 PM
Panama is also a good canidate for the 23rd Century. It is transcontinental and has access to the two major oceans and controls a very important waterway. But its militarily weak. Which is a problem because being rich and weak is a terrible combination.
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robbie01 is not online. robbie01
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29 Aug 2011 08:01 PM
I did about development and such, europe is further along than the us,
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Jericho17 is not online. Jericho17
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29 Aug 2011 08:04 PM
With trains? Trains are good when your country is large and underpopulated both of which europe is not. Most scientists in europe have had higher education in America therefore your invalid there. If you're reffering to entitlements that claim is misleading.
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AfrikaanerForever is not online. AfrikaanerForever
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29 Aug 2011 08:12 PM
African trade is a possibility. Things have begun to settle in Africa.
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Jericho17 is not online. Jericho17
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29 Aug 2011 08:13 PM
Africa can be used to exploit but not ship and transport goods, the Red sea is very dangerous as is the Gulf of Aden and it is always cheaper to ship than transport by land. We also don't want a Silk Road 2.0.
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AfrikaanerForever is not online. AfrikaanerForever
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29 Aug 2011 08:16 PM
Um, you do realize that Libya got played like a bad pawn for NATO, allowing ARFICOM to set up bases for the first time in a long time in Africa. It also is very quick and easy trips to Sicily and Italy as opposed to Shanghi to SanFran.
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Jericho17 is not online. Jericho17
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29 Aug 2011 08:18 PM
But that would diminish trade with developed nations if you centralize shipping in the Med.

And who has the most troops in NATO and who actually controls AFRICOM? DING DING DING THE UNITED STATES HURR!! So even if Europe uses your suggested Marco Polo route it would still be under the watch of the United States, therefore no real power.
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cowkiller is not online. cowkiller
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29 Aug 2011 08:38 PM
some people are so dumb that they don't even know what countries they are talking about :p... Look into resources, economics, trade... Theses are the basics for great nations dimwits
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Jericho17 is not online. Jericho17
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29 Aug 2011 08:40 PM
Are you attacking me or the Europeans/Europhiles?

You can't always base modern presumption as fact. Don't make me pull out the 20 year example.

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Epicwinmatt is not online. Epicwinmatt
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29 Aug 2011 08:41 PM
Spain, Greece, and the Slavic region have dismal economies.

France is just...France.

UK needs to recover from the riots.

Ireland is just poor.

Belarus, and the Balkan States are just TERRIBLE places.



What I am trying to say is, the EU is the only thing that is holding Europe together. Without it, we would be seeing corporate monopolies, possible wars, and poverty.
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logmanjr is not online. logmanjr
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29 Aug 2011 08:43 PM
Austria is doing well thank you very much.

Twigs can have his dreams of ruling germany but I will rule his southern neighbor and rebuild the once great kuk(Another term for Austria Hungary)
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cowkiller is not online. cowkiller
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29 Aug 2011 08:44 PM
I don't think that middle america will even make a impact in the future economies unless for tourism... You may think mexico will become great, but look at what it has to offer... Sure it has some resources but not that much compared to most nations... It also has a labour force but that is being outmatched as we speak... They are destined to stay average but not a significant economic needity
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Jericho17 is not online. Jericho17
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29 Aug 2011 08:44 PM
>EU is holding Europe together

The EU has caused much of the modern strife in Europe today or least made it worse.
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Jericho17 is not online. Jericho17
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29 Aug 2011 08:46 PM
I know a hundred years earlier a powerful Mexico is hard to imagine Cowkiller but 100 years a powerful America was to. I really don't want to have give the 20 year example.
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Jericho17 is not online. Jericho17
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29 Aug 2011 08:47 PM
If I am correct in saying Austria is landlocked than I doubt it will ever have much more and even if it does too many stronger nations have strong interests in the Balkans and Southern europe than Sovereign power there is unlikely.
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