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Re: My own personal theory for VAK's popularity;

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Wordsarecool is not online. Wordsarecool
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30 Aug 2011 09:08 AM
Most of this is invalid now that VAC has become the main Vaktovian armed force. (It has, don't deny it)

When a player looks through the top few clans, he will find that most of the members in low ranks are newbs or appear to be newbs. VAK, being small, gives the illusion of scarcity and makes itself out to be elite. It also being hyperactive for a clan it's size (or at least it was) it was very capable of supporting it's elite title. Thus, members try to join it or VAC (which the members then claim is also elite).

Once VAK gets to 5-6k members, it's popularity will probably die down and it's member count will stagnate.

A possible explanation for VAK's hyperactivity is it being in a constant state of war. Same thing with APN when it fought the GSC. Once APN stopped fighting, activity died.
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AgentJJT is not online. AgentJJT
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30 Aug 2011 09:14 AM
Precisely.
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Lissitski is not online. Lissitski
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30 Aug 2011 09:15 AM
The fact that we keep talking about VAK also helps.

If it wasn't for us, they wouldn't be here!
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jacobdg is not online. jacobdg
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30 Aug 2011 09:16 AM
YOU'RE GOOD AT MATH!

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Wordsarecool is not online. Wordsarecool
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30 Aug 2011 09:16 AM
Not true. Noen of you knew what the heck VAK was until the first APN-VAK war, or maybe the Raven Empire-VAK war
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AlexisMarinoiu is not online. AlexisMarinoiu
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30 Aug 2011 09:17 AM
Or it might be because it is a good clan.

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AgentJJT is not online. AgentJJT
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30 Aug 2011 09:18 AM
Good as in overated.
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AlexisMarinoiu is not online. AlexisMarinoiu
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30 Aug 2011 09:19 AM
Good as in GOOD.

Aka the opposite of BAD. (derp)

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AgentJJT is not online. AgentJJT
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30 Aug 2011 09:21 AM
How so.
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Wordsarecool is not online. Wordsarecool
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30 Aug 2011 09:21 AM
Good and bad are terms relative to your ammount of negative or positive bais towards a certain clan.


Derrrp
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AlexisMarinoiu is not online. AlexisMarinoiu
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30 Aug 2011 09:23 AM
I look at the positives as well, unlike some people.

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30 Aug 2011 09:27 AM
Jacob, my siggy is better than yours

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AgentJJT is not online. AgentJJT
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30 Aug 2011 09:28 AM
Postitives: Good training in SOME circumstances, Original?, Good discipline.

Negatives: False victorys, Arrogance, Hypocrits, Overated skill, Fail defeated list (refer to false victorys).
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Tonitoni is not online. Tonitoni
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30 Aug 2011 09:34 AM
I was in VAK during the APN war... We raided with them.
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Adrical is not online. Adrical
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30 Aug 2011 09:34 AM
It wont always be like this, soon we'll probably get cadets up and running and VAC will go into decline since all the already capable VAC soldiers will be recruited into cadets. Dunno where that leaves VAC but the cadets will have REAL trainers so none of this abuse crap will be around.

~TILDAS~
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Tonitoni is not online. Tonitoni
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30 Aug 2011 09:39 AM
Your statement is false. VAK was active even when they were not in any wars.
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Wordsarecool is not online. Wordsarecool
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30 Aug 2011 11:27 PM
Thats because back then, there was no Cadet corps.
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KoolMario123 is not online. KoolMario123
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30 Aug 2011 11:36 PM
@Wordsarecool


I think they got known after FEAR fought them in early 2011.
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Zegion is not online. Zegion
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31 Aug 2011 12:18 AM
I see no reason why the amount of Vaktovians would stagnate due to your theory. VAC will grow, but Vaktovians are a banner of the most skilled fighters on the game.
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Wordsarecool is not online. Wordsarecool
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31 Aug 2011 12:26 AM
<3 how you gave the exact propoganda line Vaktus said.



That phrase is completely subjective and baised, not factual in any way whatsoever.
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Zegion is not online. Zegion
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31 Aug 2011 12:38 AM
It must have stayed in my memory. Nonetheless, Vaktovians are trained and good soldiers, unlike (excluding VS) super-clans. I see no legit reason as to why the amount of members will drop.
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Igotgame102 is not online. Igotgame102
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31 Aug 2011 12:38 AM
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Wordsarecool is not online. Wordsarecool
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31 Aug 2011 12:55 AM
Implying this was a hate thread.

Implying you cared anyways, because you're a baised tl;dr poster.


gtho k
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Wordsarecool is not online. Wordsarecool
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31 Aug 2011 12:57 AM
@Zegion


It will lose elite status, whether elite or not, once it hits a certain ammount of members.


Look at REF in the first REF-X101ST war. (Way before most of your time.)

REF stagnated at roughly 3k members???

Due to size, it became ahrder to discipline & mantain, and thus lost 'elite' status.
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Adrical is not online. Adrical
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31 Aug 2011 12:59 AM
But VAK isn't growing, VAC is, and nobody is claiming that VAC is elite

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