twigs182
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| 25 Aug 2011 05:54 PM |
To support the royal family, try swallowing this.
500 million or so pounds are spent on the royal family.
15 BILLION or so pounds per year are spent on the European Union, not including its bailouts, and so forth.
Basically, the British tax payers are paying into a political system that violates British law in regards that persons cannot be detained without reason, well, in the EU, you can do that. So basically, the British are paying into a system that violates their sovereignty as a people, and you want to cut the monarchy? |
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| 25 Aug 2011 05:58 PM |
| I don't use costs of the Monarchy as an argument. |
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History0
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| 25 Aug 2011 06:01 PM |
| Can't you just be against both? |
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| 25 Aug 2011 06:01 PM |
| It doesn't cost too much, but how would you liked having to pay extra tax so some spoiled fat hag could get fatter? |
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twigs182
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| 25 Aug 2011 06:06 PM |
You are paying 30x more for the EU per tax payer.
50 pounds in taxes I believe go to the monarchy.
150 pounds go to the EU. (Neo-USSR) |
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twigs182
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| 25 Aug 2011 06:06 PM |
Fail math on my part.
1500 pounds go to the EU. |
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Jericho17
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| 25 Aug 2011 06:08 PM |
| Same as Person. I don't use monarchy costs to support my anti-monarchism or Anti-British Nationalism. You can check my essay if you don't believe me. |
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| 25 Aug 2011 06:08 PM |
| So, if it didn't exist, you would have 50 extra pounds, that might be alot for poorer family's |
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| 25 Aug 2011 06:09 PM |
You mean ME, jericho.
Also, twigs, you're sounding like a democrat. "Oh, don't cut that, it doesn't cost a lot" |
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Jericho17
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| 25 Aug 2011 06:11 PM |
Person to if you check his one comment.
As I also don't support ot even like for that matter the EU.
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twigs182
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| 25 Aug 2011 06:12 PM |
If the people want them gone, fine, they can cut spending for them. But the people don't. I don't see anti-Monarchist protests anywere.
I do consider my self a populist in some respects.
But anyways, ending ties with the EU in regards to taxation and social spending (15 billion pounds) equates to more than austerity present by Parliment. |
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| 25 Aug 2011 06:13 PM |
| I am allowed to have an opinion whether or not the British public agrees with me. |
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twigs182
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| 25 Aug 2011 06:14 PM |
Its an opinion that does not make sense.
Besides, the monarchy is a symbol of many countries, much like, say, if we had a living Uncle Sam lineage. |
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Jericho17
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| 25 Aug 2011 06:14 PM |
History0 is Person.
Thats because people are more confine with figureheads than a de jure monarchy. Trust me twigs if the monarchs were absolutists they would be rioting in the streets.
As TR said...
"Democracy shall be the death of Monarchy" |
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History0
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| 25 Aug 2011 06:17 PM |
"History0 is Person."
Nope. |
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| 25 Aug 2011 06:18 PM |
| The French had a monarchy too. They got rid of it. It didn't hurt their identity or some bullcrap like that. |
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twigs182
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| 25 Aug 2011 06:19 PM |
Am I a monarchist? No.
I am an enlightened despotist. I feel that the people should elect the next despot when one dies. |
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Jericho17
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| 25 Aug 2011 06:19 PM |
Really sorry.
Thorae they did it back and forth. Mostly because of the Bonapartes. |
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twigs182
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| 25 Aug 2011 06:22 PM |
The French had a monarchy too. They got rid of it. It didn't hurt their identity or some bullcrap like that. - Most of the people that revolted were just parisians rather than the sum of France and its empire.
And the reason it didn't change anything back then was because it was back during a time of monarchies and empires, so France ran an empire with its own with many kings too and fro.
If we were to eliminate the royal family now, we will of official lost that sinew to a time when European nationals actually were sovereign states that ruled the world. |
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| 25 Aug 2011 06:23 PM |
| Jesus christ twigs, jesus christ |
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| 25 Aug 2011 06:23 PM |
we will of official lost that sinew to a time when European nationals actually were sovereign states that ruled the world ___ And we want that, why? |
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twigs182
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| 25 Aug 2011 06:27 PM |
And we want that, why? - Because we the cycle of history is swinging in favor of Europe and those who do not wish to see this many the Eastern European buttmads and the azn space takers are bawwing over it because they want europe to provide for them and not take their resources. They expect to be saved from every famine, when the famines are from them pooping out 20 children. |
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Jericho17
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| 25 Aug 2011 06:27 PM |
Germany has no monarchy, they are doing fine according to you.
Actually Twigs, when France was a republic after Napoleon III fell, they maintained a veyr strong and vast empire. |
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Jericho17
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| 25 Aug 2011 06:29 PM |
I am sorry twigs the Age of Europe is over. It ended in 1945 when the UK failed to be a competitor in the Cold War and the decolonization era overtook europe.
Many of the reasons I stated in Reason 1 of my essay explains why this is so. |
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